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Reports that Pope is going to resign...

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  • #2
    fatmammycat
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-benedict-to-resign--reports-584358.html

    Nothing but media reports yet...

    Wonder what all that is about?

    Heh, snap!


  • #3
    Beeker
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    Good riddance!


  • #4
    seamus
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    Confirmed by the Vatican:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/pope-resigning-790841-Feb2013/

    A little disappointed. He's a such a backwards aul prick that he was doing more to turn people away from the the church than any secular campaign.


  • #5
    robindch
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    And the Beeb:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304


  • #6
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Just heard that, thought it was a wind up. :eek: Any speculation as to the reason?


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  • #7
    seamus
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    Too weak to continue apparently.

    Funny, I thought that the Pope stayed in place until death, like a monarch. The speculation will start now that he was pushed...


  • #8
    runawaybishop
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    Too old for the job, fancy that.


  • #9
    GLaDOS
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    seamus wrote: »
    Funny, I thought that the Pope stayed in place until death, like a monarch. The speculation will start now that he was pushed...

    Thought that myself, has this ever happened before?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #10
    blastman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    They'll probably get some 70-year old whippersnapper in to replace him....hmmph!


  • #11
    blastman
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    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Thought that myself, has this ever happened before?

    Yes, apparently the last one was around 1415, though. A previous Pope Benedict resigned in 1045.


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  • #12
    Zillah
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    So Darth Vader takes over now, right?


  • #13
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    seamus wrote: »
    Too weak to continue apparently.

    Funny, I thought that the Pope stayed in place until death, like a monarch. The speculation will start now that he was pushed...

    1417 was the last time one resigned. The RCC claim it was 1294 but that's because they are embarrassed about the Great Schism when there were 3 Popes at the same time...

    List of Popes who resigned here: http://atheism.about.com/od/popesandthepapacy/a/resignations_2.htm

    7 in total, interesting one of them was also a Benny - Boomerang Benny would be more appropriate
    Benedict IX easily had the most confusing pontificate in history. He served as pope three times: he was elected, ejected, returned, abdicated, deposed, returned again, ejected again, and eventually excommunicated. Presumably at least one of his resignations may have been canonically valid, possibly even two.


  • #14
    robindch
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    Live:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21409149


  • #15
    seamus
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    Speculation around the office here is that someone was on the verge of exposing Benny's wife and family in the U.S. if he didn't resign.

    Not entirely unbelievable...


  • #16
    Beruthiel
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    seamus wrote: »
    The speculation will start now that he was pushed...

    I'm going with a scandal of grandiose magnitude!


  • #17
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I'm going with a scandal of grandiose magnitude!

    *rushes to shop to stockpile popcorn*


  • #18
    kiffer
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    seamus wrote: »
    Confirmed by the Vatican:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/pope-resigning-790841-Feb2013/

    A little disappointed. He's a such a backwards aul prick that he was doing more to turn people away from the the church than any secular campaign.

    While an old conservative Pope pushes people away he makes the remaining body even more dangerous. The harder a line the Church takes on abortion, condoms, equal rights and so on the worse it is for everyone.
    A young liberal pope would be great. Even if he's not liberal enough he makes it easier for the next one to be even more liberal. Or for the next one to be super conservative and clamp down hard... driving more away... but at least in the mean time we'd have time to deal with some of the problems they are interfering with.


  • #19
    robindch
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    kiffer wrote: »
    A young liberal pope would be great.
    Whatever about young, a liberal pope is unlikely -- Ratzinger has been stuffing the ranks of cardinals with conservatives for years.


  • #20
    lazygal
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    I also think a lot of the younger priests seem to be a lot more hardline and conservative than the post Vatican II ones. I was shocked (maybe not the right word) at a wedding a year or two ago when a young enough priest, early 40s I'd say, said several times at the wedding of friends how good it was to choose a church wedding over a less 'meaningful' quick civil ceremony and how people should cherish the marriages of Catholics more and more as people fall away and choose 'function room ceremonies'. Really a very insulting attitude.


  • #21
    iDave
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    The church wont be out of the news for the next few weeks, queue a wave of interest in the organisation, crowds in the Vatrican, nuns with rosary beeds on TV. Prepare to be nauseated


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  • #22
    Penn
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    Wow. Maybe he read what people were saying to him on Twitter...

    A shame though. I liked referring to the Pope as a Nazi. Probably won't get that with the next Pope.


  • #23
    runawaybishop
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    Father Ted springs to mind

    Pope Benedict XVI: I have some news.
    Father Dougal: You're getting married?


  • #24
    pauldla
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    Ringo Starr would make an excellent Pope, I always thought.


  • #25
    DazMarz
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    Always two, there are. A master and an apprentice...

    Usually the Rule of Two that the Sith adhere to means that the apprentice slays the master...

    Just following on from a previous post... :P


  • #26
    Hunterbiker
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    I heard he just wanted Sunday's off...


  • #27
    robindch
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    The reason given:
    Herr Ratzinger wrote:
    "After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry."


  • #28
    kylith
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    I reckon it finally got through to the RCC hierarchy exactly how bad Ratzinger was making them look, with his abuse cover up letters, calling the ordination of women a greater sin than pederasty, etc.

    Good riddance to him.


    Anyone know what happens to him now? Is he demoted back to cardinal, or do they just ship him off to an old popes' home?


  • #29
    Penn
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    Next Pope: We must do what we can to heal the church, to bring people back, and modernise the church.
    Reporter: How do you plan on doing that?
    Next Pope: By changing absolutely nothing. We're still right about everything.


  • #30
    SebBerkovich
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    DazMarz wrote: »
    Always two, there are. A master and an apprentice...

    Usually the Rule of Two that the Sith adhere to means that the apprentice slays the master...

    Just following on from a previous post... :P

    8 years of a sith overloard was enough for me,

    JAR-JAR FOR POPE!


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  • #31
    Dades
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    Should be a few column inches in this story, methinks.

    The BBC feed keeps showing him being pushed around in what can only be described as the Papal Shopping Trolley. Awesome.


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