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General Fantasy Football Chat 2012/2013

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    United have wrapped the league up beyond all doubt after today, I'm thinking the time is probably right to cast Van Persie adrift and strenghten all round, even downgrading to Rooney will give me 3.1m to play with, Suarez even more,
    What do ye reckon? If United are to get over Madrid he could be held back for champions league duty quite a few times.

    my thoughts exactly I believe hes not worth his price for the next few gws and if utd beat madrid I wont be getting rvp back in either if the gap stays as big as it is now with city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    Facing a potential conundrum. I have Gerrard and Suarez and am considering taking a hit to bring in Sturridge for the DGW and then removing Suarez for Rooney the week after.

    Are Rooney and Sturridge likely to continue their current form or is the above a bad idea? Any thoughts would be appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    When is Hazard back? Will he be back for the Wigan game? Which should mean bench time for Bertrand again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Facing a potential conundrum. I have Gerrard and Suarez and am considering taking a hit to bring in Sturridge for the DGW and then removing Suarez for Rooney the week after.

    Are Rooney and Sturridge likely to continue their current form or is the above a bad idea? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    sounds like a good plan. though obviously Sturridge is a slight doubt for the weekend's game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,265 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Andros Townsend now looks like a good option for the 5th cheap mid position at 4.4. Was the best player on the park yesterday and took all 3 bonus points. However, his assist potential could be damaged by Remy's absence as Zamora and Mackie aren't up to scratch at the moment. Also had a look at Sissoko's stats in France. He began his career as more of a DM and didn't score many from that role but with the emergence of Etienne Capoue, Sissoko was pushed further forward to facilitate him. As a result, his goalscoring record improved. He was very dangerous yesterday and I'm seriously considering getting him in for Michu after the DGW. After Spurs away, Newcastle then have SOU (h) SWAN (a) STO (h) WIG (a) There could be serious points potential for him in those games. It also seems like the arrival of the new players at Newcastle have given the club a lift and I expect much better performances from them over the next few weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Andros Townsend now looks like a good option for the 5th cheap mid position at 4.4. Was the best player on the park yesterday and took all 3 bonus points. However, his assist potential could be damaged by Remy's absence as Zamora and Mackie aren't up to scratch at the moment. Also had a look at Sissoko's stats in France. He began his career as more of a DM and didn't score many from that role but with the emergence of Etienne Capoue, Sissoko was pushed further forward to facilitate him. As a result, his goalscoring record improved. He was very dangerous yesterday and I'm seriously considering getting him in for Michu after the DGW. After Spurs away, Newcastle then have SOU (h) SWAN (a) STO (h) WIG (a) There could be serious points potential for him in those games. It also seems like the arrival of the new players at Newcastle have given the club a lift and I expect much better performances from them over the next few weeks.

    good point Ill be going puncheon to townsend soon and ye newcastle have some great fixtures. Theres just so many midfield options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,265 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Can't remember there ever being a year when there were so many good midfield options. What I can seeing happening is that those who are ahead in their leagues will stick with the Mata, Fellaini, Michu, Walcott, Bale combination and those playing catch up will try a few differentials in the hope that they can outscore the main 5.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Andros Townsend now looks like a good option for the 5th cheap mid position at 4.4. Was the best player on the park yesterday and took all 3 bonus points. However, his assist potential could be damaged by Remy's absence as Zamora and Mackie aren't up to scratch at the moment. Also had a look at Sissoko's stats in France. He began his career as more of a DM and didn't score many from that role but with the emergence of Etienne Capoue, Sissoko was pushed further forward to facilitate him. As a result, his goalscoring record improved. He was very dangerous yesterday and I'm seriously considering getting him in for Michu after the DGW. After Spurs away, Newcastle then have SOU (h) SWAN (a) STO (h) WIG (a) There could be serious points potential for him in those games. It also seems like the arrival of the new players at Newcastle have given the club a lift and I expect much better performances from them over the next few weeks.

    I took a look at stats of every major new player and just felt Sissoko's states were not good enough.

    Then Pardew goes and plays him behind Cisse.

    Completely different player! He looks like ff gold. I'm even thinking he could be this years Siggurdson (a player that came in at Christmas and ran riot).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    seriously thinking of getting Jonny Evans in soon. his ppg of 4.7 is excellent, and whenever available he's played for the most part. would mean doubling up with Evra, but United have some seriously nice fixtures, and we all know how they tighten up at the business end of the season, almost without fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    Andros Townsend now looks like a good option for the 5th cheap mid position at 4.4. Was the best player on the park yesterday and took all 3 bonus points. However, his assist potential could be damaged by Remy's absence as Zamora and Mackie aren't up to scratch at the moment. Also had a look at Sissoko's stats in France. He began his career as more of a DM and didn't score many from that role but with the emergence of Etienne Capoue, Sissoko was pushed further forward to facilitate him. As a result, his goalscoring record improved. He was very dangerous yesterday and I'm seriously considering getting him in for Michu after the DGW. After Spurs away, Newcastle then have SOU (h) SWAN (a) STO (h) WIG (a) There could be serious points potential for him in those games. It also seems like the arrival of the new players at Newcastle have given the club a lift and I expect much better performances from them over the next few weeks.

    I don't care what Michu does after the DGW. He's gone. Michu out and Sissoko in. I posted somewhere on here recommending him the other day. Was trying to accommodate him in my wildcard but my DGW plans kind of messed it up. Swansea are safe and i can just see them waltzing through some games and their goal scoring taking a hit. Michu wasn't overly effective up front last time. He's best in the hole but without a recognized striker he may play there. Newcastle also appear to have a nack of signing great players in January. They also need to win to ensure they stay safe from the drop zone. Teams with fight in them are the way to go to close out the season. Mid table teams drop in form a bit. It's like a collective drop in effort from the players.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    I don't care what Michu does after the DGW. He's gone. Michu out and Sissoko in. I posted somewhere on here recommending him the other day. Was trying to accommodate him in my wildcard but my DGW plans kind of messed it up. Swansea are safe and i can just see them waltzing through some games and their goal scoring taking a hit. Michu wasn't overly effective up front last time. He's best in the hole but without a recognized striker he may play there. Newcastle also appear to have a nack of signing great players in January. They also need to win to ensure they stay safe from the drop zone. Teams with fight in them are the way to go to close out the season. Mid table teams drop in form a bit. It's like a collective drop in effort from the players.

    that's the exact reason why i sold michu and my stoke defensive coverage as soon as the wildcard was available. Wba swans stoke sunderland wham all have little or nothing to play for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo



    that's the exact reason why i sold michu and my stoke defensive coverage as soon as the wildcard was available. Wba swans stoke sunderland wham all have little or nothing to play for.

    Identifying, having the balls to adjust and bringing in players from teams that need to do something ahead of the curve could really propel you up the rankings. Mid table team players won't be featuring at all in my team going forward. Slowly going to eradicate them all. It comes with risks but sure it's only a game after all. Playing it safe all the time wil only keep you middle of the road. It can pay to take risks now and then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    I don't care what Michu does after the DGW. He's gone. Michu out and Sissoko in. I posted somewhere on here recommending him the other day. Was trying to accommodate him in my wildcard but my DGW plans kind of messed it up. Swansea are safe and i can just see them waltzing through some games and their goal scoring taking a hit. Michu wasn't overly effective up front last time. He's best in the hole but without a recognized striker he may play there. Newcastle also appear to have a nack of signing great players in January. They also need to win to ensure they stay safe from the drop zone. Teams with fight in them are the way to go to close out the season. Mid table teams drop in form a bit. It's like a collective drop in effort from the players.


    Spot on about mid table teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,160 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Clyne, sturridge, fellaini and Shaw all doubts, made my transfer all ready and have one free transfer, but was hoping to use that for the next game week. Guess sturridge will get at least one game only other worry is fellaini, should I ship him while I can do a straight swap for yaya?

    4 doubts worry me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Clyne, sturridge, fellaini and Shaw all doubts, made my transfer all ready and have one free transfer, but was hoping to use that for the next game week. Guess sturridge will get at least one game only other worry is fellaini, should I ship him while I can do a straight swap for yaya?

    4 doubts worry me.
    wait till fi evening things will be clearer then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Clyne, sturridge, fellaini and Shaw all doubts, made my transfer all ready and have one free transfer, but was hoping to use that for the next game week. Guess sturridge will get at least one game only other worry is fellaini, should I ship him while I can do a straight swap for yaya?

    4 doubts worry me.

    I'd wait until after the internationals. Fellaini may not have fancied travelling with Belgium.

    Would suit me down to the ground if he missed a few weeks but can't see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    All ghost injuries. Slight knocks they'd usually play through no bother but use as an excuse to miss friendly internationals. You wouldn't see this happening were it competitive qualifiers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭CrabieCrawford


    Is marc Wilson certain to start for once when he's fit again? Read somewhere he played 75 mins for the reserves. Only 4m and more likely stoke will keep more clean sheets than teams like reading and southampton, with similar priced defenders. Or better to stick with someone like Clyne who gets an odd assist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,267 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Is marc Wilson certain to start for once when he's fit again? Read somewhere he played 75 mins for the reserves. Only 4m and more likely stoke will keep more clean sheets than teams like reading and southampton, with similar priced defenders. Or better to stick with someone like Clyne who gets an odd assist?

    i'll be getting him in gw28, stoke defensively have slackened, but 4m is a bargain, especially for home fixtures. also the fact they held arsenal at the emirates for most of the game is a good sign that they're tightening up again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭Shane732




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    I don't care what Michu does after the DGW. He's gone. Michu out and Sissoko in. I posted somewhere on here recommending him the other day. Was trying to accommodate him in my wildcard but my DGW plans kind of messed it up. Swansea are safe and i can just see them waltzing through some games and their goal scoring taking a hit. Michu wasn't overly effective up front last time. He's best in the hole but without a recognized striker he may play there. Newcastle also appear to have a nack of signing great players in January. They also need to win to ensure they stay safe from the drop zone. Teams with fight in them are the way to go to close out the season. Mid table teams drop in form a bit. It's like a collective drop in effort from the players.

    Very good point and something I have to admit I hadn't given too much thought to. If I have the energy tomorrow I'm going to have a quick look back over previous seasons and see just how much this is the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Shane732 wrote: »
    I mentioned it in the gw26 transfer thread dont think many people paid much attention to it to be honest. Everyone is caught up in DGW frenzy but this is potentially a major issue. Fellani walcott and mata all without a game will affect lots of teams. Its one of the reasons I wouldnt transfer bale out this week like lots are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    carlop wrote: »
    Very good point and something I have to admit I hadn't given too much thought to. If I have the energy tomorrow I'm going to have a quick look back over previous seasons and see just how much this is the case.
    Whilst I think Michu to Sissoko may be a good move to make, I think the reasoning behind the move lacks a bit of credence in my opinion.

    If I have the time I might try gather the data somewhere so that the theory could be put to test but obviously that's not much help for this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,256 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    S.M.B. wrote: »
    Whilst I think Michu to Sissoko may be a good move to make, I think the reasoning behind the move lacks a bit of credence in my opinion.

    If I have the time I might try gather the data somewhere so that the theory could be put to test but obviously that's not much help for this season.

    The thing about Swansea is that they're mid table and when they win the cup, any push they had on to get European football will end because they'll have it.

    I remember the year Spurs were mid table and won the Cup they had a dreadful end to the season.

    I can't see Swansea being any different.

    As for mid table teams lacking effort near the season end, I always call it the "Charlton effect" because it was classic of Curbishley's Charlton.

    Up until they got to 40 points they were a tough match for anyone. After it though, they just seemed to switch off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Afaik everyone came through the internationals unscathed although Walcott gave me a bit of a fright.

    Adebayor has done his usual act of going missing after the ACON,he is yet to report back to Spurs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    The whole mid table teams dipping in form theory is based on a natural reaction to circumstances. Take a college student for example. In a given module the continuous assessment is worth 40% while the end of semester exam is worth 60%. If the student scores 35-40% CA they feel safe and many will put the minimum amount of effort in as they only care about passing the module. Where as if the student scored 15-25% they'll feel the need to study with greater effort to guarantee they pass. For some people effort lessens with the absence of pressure.

    Some people are natural competitors and will give maximum effort regardless of circumstance. But as soccer is a team sport the collective output can be affected if even just 4 or 5 players reduce their effort because they're safe from the pressure of failure, e.g. relegation.

    I've no figures to back it up as I came to this conclusion based on observation over the years without considering fantasy football. Maybe numbers could prove me wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    The whole mid table teams dipping in form theory is based on a natural reaction to circumstances. Take a college student for example. In a given module the continuous assessment is worth 40% while the end of semester exam is worth 60%. If the student scores 35-40% CA they feel safe and many will put the minimum amount of effort in as they only care about passing the module. Where as if the student scored 15-25% they'll feel the need to study with greater effort to guarantee they pass. For some people effort lessens with the absence of pressure.

    Some people are natural competitors and will give maximum effort regardless of circumstance. But as soccer is a team sport the collective output can be affected if even just 4 or 5 players reduce their effort because they're safe from the pressure of failure, e.g. relegation.

    I've no figures to back it up as I came to this conclusion based on observation over the years without considering fantasy football. Maybe numbers could prove me wrong.


    agree 100%. See QPR collapsing in the last 2 minutes v Man City last year when they knew they were safe. Or Charlton under Curbs would always tail off in March/April after reaching 40 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    The whole mid table teams dipping in form theory is based on a natural reaction to circumstances. Take a college student for example. In a given module the continuous assessment is worth 40% while the end of semester exam is worth 60%. If the student scores 35-40% CA they feel safe and many will put the minimum amount of effort in as they only care about passing the module. Where as if the student scored 15-25% they'll feel the need to study with greater effort to guarantee they pass. For some people effort lessens with the absence of pressure.

    Some people are natural competitors and will give maximum effort regardless of circumstance. But as soccer is a team sport the collective output can be affected if even just 4 or 5 players reduce their effort because they're safe from the pressure of failure, e.g. relegation.

    I've no figures to back it up as I came to this conclusion based on observation over the years without considering fantasy football. Maybe numbers could prove me wrong.
    I know from betting on football from march on I would never bet on a midtable to win a match. For example Stoke V wigan in Dec (id fancy stoke to win)compared to Stoke V wigan with 3 games to go in the season with stoke safe and wigan desperatly needing the points to stay up (I wouldnt go near stoke even though they have proved over the season they are the better team). People have mentioned teams like charlton collapsing also look at teams like Wigan last year WBA(few years back) and west ham (with tevez) going on unbelievable runs to stay up. You can be sure a lot of those wins are against Mid table teams that dont really care anymore.

    Stoke for example are probably looking to next year they know they can defend so Im sure tony pulis is looking at how can he make his team a better attacking force. Your best bet for a clean sheet this year is to nearly get in a defender who is playing stoke at home.
    Teams that are safe will rotate more aswell as theres no pressure and gives the manager a chance to look at players.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    In fact, I am planning to use my WC around week 28/29 and will look to take out most of my players who's team aren't fighting for anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    statss wrote: »
    In fact, I am planning to use my WC around week 28/29 and will look to take out most of my players who's team aren't fighting for anything.
    week 29 good chance arsenal everton chelsea will have no game could be a nice time to have a wildcard.


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