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Protecting pedophiles is not just a Catholic problem

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  • #32
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Just by looking at the still for that video you can see what a fat disgusting bastard he is. Dirty cvnts like this are the lowest of the low :mad:

    Surely he'd need rapist glasses and a trench coat in order to complete the whole paedophile ensemble...

    He's just an average looking Rabbi.


  • #33
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    Religion. It makes everyone that bit eviler.
    It's not just religion, it's anywhere you have power without accountability. If people think they can get away with murder, don't be surprised if someone gets murdered.


  • #34
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Candie wrote: »
    I don't think being overweight is part of the criteria for identifying child abusers. That's a bit unnecessary surely?

    This man also is not an abuser per se although he certainly is an abuse enabler.

    Unnecessary? I don't care. I described him as he was, no link between overweight or a child abuser and I never implied one. I hate this PC brigade shíte if ever you so mention being overweight negatively people jump down your throat about it.

    Never said he was an abuser but telling victims to keep their mouths shut on the abuse is disgusting enough to me.


  • #35
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Siuin wrote: »
    Get over yourself :rolleyes:
    This thread isn't about child abuse- it's about the OP trying to say that Jews are as bad as the Catholic Church.

    I said the Jewish religion not Jews.

    And then you went on to say this was a non story.

    Your opinion of me is obvious.

    However do you agree or disagree with this piece of filth below?



    Or maybe you have such a fair and balanced approach that you will wait until you get all the facts?

    Channel 4 at 10.30PM.

    I am going to stay tuned after that for Embarrassing Fat Bodies.
    As the nation's waist size spirals out of control, the Embarrassing Bodies doctors help the seriously overweight cope with illnesses caused by obesity

    The 2nd show is a bit late I may have to Sky Plus it.:)


  • #36
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I said the Jewish religion not Jews.
    Newsflash: There is no Jewish religion without Jews.
    Ranicand wrote: »
    However do you agree or disagree with this piece of filth below?
    Why on earth would you suggest that there was even a possibility of me 'agreeing' with the man in question? My point is that paedophilia is a problem right across the board- so while single out the Jews and compare them to the Catholic Church?


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
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    1ZRed wrote: »
    Unnecessary? I don't care. I described him as he was, no link between overweight or a child abuser and I never implied one. I hate this PC brigade shíte if ever you so mention being overweight negatively people jump down your throat about it.

    Never said he was an abuser but telling victims to keep their mouths shut on the abuse is disgusting enough to me.

    Would you stop. You're not being persecuted by the PC brigade (of which I hold the rank of Commander in Chief?), but you can't tell a baddie by looking at them and plenty of dog-ugly people, complete with beer guts, are nice as pie.

    The comment on his appearance was unnecessary, his ACTIONS are whats disgusting.


  • #38
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Siuin wrote: »
    Newsflash: There is no Jewish religion without Jews.


    Why on earth would you suggest that there was even a possibility of me 'agreeing' with the man in question? My point is that paedophilia is a problem right across the board- so while single out the Jews and compare them to the Catholic Church?

    First of all I am a Catholic and the church has abused and covered up abuse I don't recall myself or any other Catholic even being asked for our opinion by the church.

    This rabbi is trying to protect a pervert and two other stories have being linked to in the thread by another poster.

    I did not say you agreed with that man but you seemed to avoid the subject by crying the race card.

    Funny thing here is the Victim is Jewish also.

    In this country we had years of this kind of carry on.

    This thread is not an attack on the Jewish people that Rabbi would fit in well in Rome.

    People siding with the abusers and protecting them.


    I would have been called anti Catholic for saying this about the Church years ago.

    Maybe it's time for other religions to air their dirty laundry too.

    I would show Rabbis the very same level of respect I would show any priest.


  • #39
    starlings
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    Siuin wrote: »
    Newsflash: There is no Jewish religion without Jews.


    Why on earth would you suggest that there was even a possibility of me 'agreeing' with the man in question? My point is that paedophilia is a problem right across the board- so while single out the Jews and compare them to the Catholic Church?

    I agree with you that it's insulting to ask if you agree or disagree with covering up abuse, as if paedophilia is a constitutional part of any religion. And I admire your courage in sticking up for the Irish Jewish community and international Jewish experience, even if I disagree with you politically. In fact, I'd love to know more about the Jewish community in Ireland in a friendlier context than a row on boards.

    But I think the OP is singling out the Jewish religion because there's a documentary on about the cover-up of abuse in a particular Jewish community.

    Still, the OP would be better off asking people what they think, as human beings, rather than members of a faith. Generalising based on faith is a waste of thought, and sometimes dangerous.


  • #40
    Czarcasm
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    Siuin wrote: »
    Newsflash: There is no Jewish religion without Jews.


    Why on earth would you suggest that there was even a possibility of me 'agreeing' with the man in question? My point is that paedophilia is a problem right across the board- so while single out the Jews and compare them to the Catholic Church?


    Siuin with all due respect, I don't think it was a case of the OP singling out Jews, and certainly not by means of a "comparison" with the catholic church. I understood the OP to be making the point that it's not just the catholic church has covered up child abuse (most of us have been familiar with the incessant media coverage for the last two decades), but that jewish leaders have been known also to be just as complicit in covering up abuse scandals.

    The thread timing was relevant, because of the Dispatches program being broadcast tonight on channel 4. The discussion in the thread however didn't specifically centre on the jewish religion specifically after the OP, but took on a wider context to encompass child abuse scandals and cover ups in other religions.


    I'll hold my hands up and say that I always thought the constant media portrayal Jewish people have about their persecution was just that- a stereotype perpetrated by the media. Given the evidence of your own posts in this thread, it seems that stereotype may not be so far fetched after all.

    In short- I don't think it's me needs to, as you so eloquently put it, "get over myself".


  • #41
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    First of all I am a Catholic and the church has abused and covered up abuse I don't recall myself or any other Catholic even being asked for our opinion by the church.

    This rabbi is trying to protect a pervert and two other stories have being linked to in the thread by another poster.

    I did not say you agreed with that man but you seemed to avoid the subject by crying the race card.
    First of all, Judaism is not a race. Last time I checked you couldn't 'convert' to being Asian or African.
    Second of all, the Rabbi is indeed trying to cover up paedophilia. Similar isolated stories have also emerged. So you take the opportunity to say that the Jewish religion is allowing such things to happen? Complete fail. Judaism does not have a central body of power like the pope in the Catholic Church. What you have mentioned are isolated incidents, but most certainly not an international issue as happened in the Catholic Church. Tbh I have an issue with you trying to rationalise this issue at all to begin with- molesting or raping children is wrong, no matter who's doing it. By comparing what happened in the Catholic Church to incidents like this, you're not absolving anyone. The spin you're trying to put on it as being some kind of 'Jewish' issue is ridiculous.
    Ranicand wrote: »
    Funny thing here is the Victim is Jewish also.
    Hilarious
    Ranicand wrote: »
    In this country we had years of this kind of carry on.

    This thread is not an attack on the Jewish people that Rabbi would fit in well in Rome.

    People siding with the abusers and protecting them.


    I would have been called anti Catholic for saying this about the Church years ago.

    Maybe it's time for other religions to air their dirty laundry too.

    I would show Rabbis the very same level of respect I would show any priest.
    The major difference there is that this happens in isolated events in the Jewish community- pretty much to the same extent as in any community. There's no value in comparing religions in terms of how perverted and evil you consider them to be. As a Jew, I don't find this video shameful in the slightest- because I'm looking at another person who does not represent me religiously. How about posting another video on the Prophet Muhammad's sexual encounters with his child bride? If you're going to 'air dirty laundry' why not do it right across the religious spectrum? I consider it to be a complete waste of time, but if you really think it's relevant and necessary, then by all means.


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  • #42
    starlings
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    Siuin wrote: »

    There's no value in comparing religions in terms of how perverted and evil you consider them to be.

    exactly


  • #43
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Siuin wrote: »


    As a Jew, I don't find this video shameful in the slightest- because I'm looking at another person who does not represent me religiously. How about posting another video on the Prophet Muhammad's sexual encounters with his child bride? If you're going to 'air dirty laundry' why not do it right across the religious spectrum? I consider it to be a complete waste of time, but if you really think it's relevant and necessary, then by all means.

    No here but I have posted in threads defending the right to free speech here in Europe.

    Remember the cartoons in the newspaper in Denmark?

    Riots followed while some Muslims were still calling Islam the religion of peace.

    Anyway this thread was about religious figures in power protecting perverts.

    I know next to nothing about the structure of the Jewish faith.

    I always assumed that a rabbi is much like the parish priest?
    In a closed community this is a powerful position.

    Now are regards the scale of the problem one abuser protected is one too many.

    As regards religion I was born Catholic but am a proud atheist.

    Now I seen your last reply you disagree with this beast.:)


  • #44
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I know next to nothing about the structure of the Jewish faith.

    I always assumed that a rabbi is much like the parish priest?
    In a closed community this is a powerful position.
    No, a Rabbi has no such power. At all. A Rabbi is simply a learned person in Jewish law with whom people can consult on personal issues and who aids in conducting marriages, divorces etc. To give you an idea of how inconsequential a Rabbi is to a Jewish community- I lived in an area for almost all my life which didn't even have a Rabbi, just a synagogue and a cantor (who leads services)- and it was never a problem. The Jewish religion does not have the same hierarchical structure as the Catholic Church. The basis of the Jewish religion is peoples' own homes, not the synagogue (a structure which isn't even necessary- services can be done anywhere there are 10 Bar Mitzvahed men present).


  • #45
    Gummy Panda
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    Siuin wrote: »

    The major difference there is that this happens in isolated events in the Jewish community- pretty much to the same extent as in any community. There's no value in comparing religions in terms of how perverted and evil you consider them to be. As a Jew, I don't find this video shameful in the slightest- because I'm looking at another person who does not represent me religiously. How about posting another video on the Prophet Muhammad's sexual encounters with his child bride? If you're going to 'air dirty laundry' why not do it right across the religious spectrum? I consider it to be a complete waste of time, but if you really think it's relevant and necessary, then by all means.

    We already had the prophet Muhammad and his underage bride thread. No religion gets spared in AH.

    Loss the antisemitism victim act. Its getting old.


  • #46
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    We already had the prophet Muhammad and his underage bride thread. No religion gets spared in AH.

    Loss the antisemitism victim act. Its getting old.

    The day that boards.ie loses its Jewish and Israeli obsession :)


  • #47
    Madam_X
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    joseph brand wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Fiona Doyle's family try to prevent her from taking her sick (mentally) and evil father to court?

    I also heard that Jimmy Saville's family kept shtum, because he was giving them money and gifts, and they didn't want it to end, even if he was a paedo. I don't know who's worse.
    The rapist/paedo is worse.
    squod wrote: »
    Big problem in most societies no? Don't think it's all down to white Irish homosexual priests.
    Homosexuality = paedophilia. Lol.
    By that logic so, heterosexuality = paedophilia.
    Siuin wrote: »
    Get over yourself :rolleyes:
    This thread isn't about child abuse- it's about the OP trying to say that Jews are as bad as the Catholic Church.
    I don't agree that the cover-up of child abuse anywhere is a non story in fairness Siuin, but I understand how you felt the way you did about how the thread was presented. Even if the OP didn't mean it, saying "Not only catholicism has aided and abetted child abuse" doesn't look great. Don't think the OP meant that though.
    As for Jewish people being that bit more sensitive, I can completely understand it. It didn't come out of the fresh air. Millennia of hate and persecution will do that to you.
    1ZRed wrote:
    I described him as he was, no link between overweight or a child abuser and I never implied one. I hate this PC brigade shíte if ever you so mention being overweight negatively people jump down your throat about it.
    You totally implied it. "You can see what a fat disgusting bastard he is" is what you said. Does "PC" have to be applied to EVERYTHING that's not c*ntish?


  • #48
    KamiKazeKitten
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    Siuin wrote: »
    The day that boards.ie loses its Jewish and Israeli obsession :)

    I don't see a Jewish obsession on boards.


    Discussing Israeli treatment of Palestinians doesn't equal obsession, and doesn't mean boards is trying to persecute Israel.


  • #49
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    KamiKazeKitten wrote: »
    I don't see a Jewish obsession on boards.

    Discussing Israeli treatment of Palestinians doesn't equal obsession, and doesn't mean boards is trying to persecute Israel.

    For the size of the Jewish community in Ireland, they sure are brought up (very often negatively) a hell of a lot. Conspiracy Theories is basically half Jews/Zionists (often used interchangeably) and half BS theories on 9/11.

    Discussion of Israel on boards is ridiculous- nextdoor their neighbours are slaughtering their own citizens in their thousands and yet all anyone here wants to do is drag up old stories from Ha'aretz. You can be guaranteed that there will be more than one thread going on Israel at any given time. I'm most certainly not the only member here who has noticed the disproportionate number of threads about Israel, or the fact that it's the same idiots who start such threads over and over again.


  • #50
    Dyr
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    them pesky jews, even when it was the catholic's I knew it was the jews


  • #51
    Madam_X
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    Siuin wrote: »
    For the size of the Jewish community in Ireland, they sure are brought up (very often negatively) a hell of a lot. Conspiracy Theories is basically half Jews/Zionists (often used interchangeably) and half BS theories on 9/11.

    Discussion of Israel on boards is ridiculous- nextdoor their neighbours are slaughtering their own citizens in their thousands and yet all anyone here wants to do is drag up old stories from Ha'aretz. You can be guaranteed that there will be more than one thread going on Israel at any given time. I'm most certainly not the only member here who has noticed the disproportionate number of threads about Israel, or the fact that it's the same idiots who start such threads over and over again.
    The zionist conspiracy stuff is just nutters being nutters, but when it comes to the regular discussions re Israel/Palestine here and in Politics... I don't know why it's of such interest here. Possibly because of Ireland's history with occupation, and possibly because it's unbecoming of a democracy to behave in such a way towards another state, and because it has such backing from the United States, which posits itself as so opposed to oppression (I haven't an issue with the US for the most part - there is plenty about it that I like - but I do find some of its foreign policy questionable to say the least).

    I'm a huge critic of the Israeli state's policy re Palestine, and the sometimes disproportionate actions of the IDF. Defence is obviously fair enough, but the amount of force used can exceed defence. Doesn't mean I'm critical of all Israeli citizens though, or unwilling to acknowledge the role of Hamas. When I criticise the Israeli state, I just mean at government level. It's not anti-semitism at all.
    I also find some of the most hate-filled, far-right at times people are really "supportive" (quote-marks because I question their sincerity) of the Israeli state on Palestine, and I suspect they wouldn't have been fans of Jews prior to it becoming "in" to hate muslims. Also, they view the Palestine cause as a "hippy" one so automatically oppose it. It's crap for Israeli people that it's only these types who crawl out to defend them; if there were more reasonable people doing so, I'd bet the threads wouldn't become such heated sh1t-storms.

    That said, if I were Jewish/Israeli, my defences would go up due to all these threads. It's fine to say it's not anti-semitic, but when it's droned on about constantly, it's still going to make any Jewish/Israeli (not just hardcore zionists) feel a bit too targeted, even it's not deliberate. Easy to say get over it, it's not aimed at them, but people can't help how they feel.


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  • #52
    Czarcasm
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    Siuin wrote: »

    For the size of the Jewish community in Ireland, they sure are brought up (very often negatively) a hell of a lot. Conspiracy Theories is basically half Jews/Zionists (often used interchangeably) and half BS theories on 9/11.

    Discussion of Israel on boards is ridiculous- nextdoor their neighbours are slaughtering their own citizens in their thousands and yet all anyone here wants to do is drag up old stories from Ha'aretz. You can be guaranteed that there will be more than one thread going on Israel at any given time. I'm most certainly not the only member here who has noticed the disproportionate number of threads about Israel, or the fact that it's the same idiots who start such threads over and over again.


    At least that's something we can actually agree on. I said as much myself the other day in another recent thread in AH about Israel. I don't get the obsession myself, but then I know feckall about Israeli/Palestinian politics.

    As for the Jewish religion itself, my knowledge would fit on the back of a postage stamp. I have a friend in Manhattan alright who's a recent Jewish convert, but she might as well be talking double dutch to me. I don't mean that in a manner that sounds like ignorance, but purely because I have a lack of interest in Judaism, so the terminology simply goes over my head. Same goes for her when I start talking about Michael Dell taking DELL off Nasdaq. She has no interest in hearing about it.

    Slightly off the point there, but my main point being that topics in AH are circular. By next week we should have rolled around to catholic bashing and toilet travesties again and there'll be facepalms all round til dave82 posts another weekly update from the Daily Fail. The point being that you should learn to look past topics that get your back up, and let it go over your head. The thread dies out eventually and we all move on.

    You shouldn't take these types of threads as a personal sleight against you, in the same way as I don't take catholic bashing threads as a personal slight against me. You won't see me jumping to the defence of the catholic hierarchy any time soon, and you shouldn't feel the need to jump all over an Israel bashing thread too soon, because it leaves you in a position where nobody takes anything you have to say seriously any more, even the odd time when you might make a good point that isn't even Israeli or Jewish related.


  • #53
    Wibbs
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    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    It's not just religion, it's anywhere you have power without accountability. If people think they can get away with murder, don't be surprised if someone gets murdered.
    QFT. It has occurred in all faiths, not just the Catholic branch of Christianity. There was a similar report a while back about a Muslim Imam in the UK. The various Protestant churches have also had their issues with it. Catholicism may have had more of it going on for longer because of all the faiths it's about the most monolithic, heirarchic and centralised, with nigh on two thousand years of a tradition and practice of keeping things "in house" and is very self protective. That's a very fertile ground for cover ups. Having an unmarried priesthood doesn't help(something I recall was reading of a church elder (St basil of somewhere??) noting in the 10th century).

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #54
    1ZRed
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    You totally implied it. "You can see what a fat disgusting bastard he is" is what you said. Does "PC" have to be applied to EVERYTHING that's not c*ntish?
    No I didn't. It's you lot that think I did. I don't make the link between being overweight and a child abuser as everyone with any sense would see the idiocity of that.

    I took a swipe at his appearance because I don't have any sort of respect for him and what he's done, and it was a comment said somewhat in annoyance to hearing the story, nothing more.

    Very similar to when you're angry at someone for doing something and you might make a swipe at them out of sheer annoyance in a flash which hardly warrants an in-depth analysis because the comment didn't mean much.

    Fair point, I probably shouldn't have commented on his appearance, but again it was just a flash comment. There's no need to read into things that really aren't there.


  • #55
    ejmaztec
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    Siuin wrote: »
    The day that boards.ie loses its Jewish and Israeli obsession :)


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056869221




    :P


  • #56
    Wibbs
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    I don't know why it's of such interest here. Possibly because of Ireland's history with occupation
    I reckon thats's a huge chunk of it alright MX. Especially the notion of Plantation and our long and very bad experience of it tends to make us see really obvious parallels with the Palestinian experience. We also had an "external group" with a strong religious component who saw themselves as "superior" with a "god given right" come into our lands and attempt to squeeze us "to hell or Connaught". Of course there are differences but on the surface the easy parallels are there.

    I'd add in more recent history with the Troubles up in the North. People with republican leanings, which would have been most Irish folks in the republic to some degree or other would sympathise with the struggle for Catholic rights in the province, even if most would have had no truck even disgust with the armed campaign. I remember in the 70's anyway there was a fair connection between the groups looking for equality with groups like the PLO and others of that ilk. [old folks]Remember how popular PLO scarves were for a time?[/old folks:)]. They were seen as part of a worldwide struggle. Plus at the time there was no Mad Mullah/Islamaphobia at all. That didn't come until later and the Iranian revolution and even then it didn't really kick off until the whole Satanic Verses guff(utterly shíte book BTW. I'd have burned it on grounds of taste).

    I really don't think anti semitism was a reason for it. Not in this country anyway. Yes you would have the odd gobshíte, but as I pointed out in another thread, historically Ireland and the Irish attitude to Jews was remarkably benign compared to other European states and cultures(esp given our strong spiritual/religious background). Yes the Limerick pogrom is trotted out as an example, but it is the only clear example in over a thousand years of Irish Jews being singled out in that way. Hell we were voting in Jewish mayors of Cork in the 1600's. Compare that to France or Italy or Poland or pretty much anywhere else in Europe over the same time.

    IMHO the Conspiracy forum type Zionist stuff is a relatively recent thing in the Irish psyche. Speaking personally and anecdotally I certainly didn't notice it growing up or notice it being noticed among Jewish guys I knew. Plus the "crazies" are more represented on the interweb.

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  • #57
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056869221

    :P

    Another Israeli thread. Today. Why am I not surprised...

    That case was actually very sad- the kids were obviously brainwashed. I really don't see how it could be construed as 'oversensitive' for people to take offence to kids spouting things like "Jews killed Jesus"


  • #58
    Madam_X
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    Siuin wrote: »
    the kids were obviously brainwashed. I really don't see how it could be construed as 'oversensitive' for people to take offence to kids spouting things like "Jews killed Jesus"
    Horrible. Wonder was that the teacher though or just some idiocy they picked up from the 'net? I'd be VERY surprised if a teacher actually said that to their pupils. It would (rightly) get them into trouble for starters.


  • #59
    Bullseye1
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    There is a hell of alot more pedophiles outside religious orders than inside them. Not sure whether we have a proportionately greater number here in Ireland but it seems like it.


  • #60
    Yitzhak Rabin
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Horrible. Wonder was that the teacher though or just some idiocy they picked up from the 'net? I'd be VERY surprised if a teacher actually said that to their pupils. It would (rightly) get them into trouble for starters.

    I'd be fairly shocked if the kids were chanting Jesus killed the Jews or anything of the sort. The article was written by an Israeli who was upset at seeing schoolkids raise funds for Trocaire to plant olive trees in Palestine. The letter she wrote seems more than a tad embellished to me. The principal denied the accusations anyway.


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  • #61
    Siuin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Horrible. Wonder was that the teacher though or just some idiocy they picked up from the 'net? I'd be VERY surprised if a teacher actually said that to their pupils. It would (rightly) get them into trouble for starters.

    Just goes to show the mindset of the children who were interviewed. Instead of raising money for trees in an area which already receives hundreds of thousands in aid from various countries (including Israel), they should have educated the children in tolerance and understanding. As an organisation which has shown consistent bias in the Arab Israeli conflict, I'm not particularly surprised that Trocaire was involved in this whole affair.


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