Processed Chicken.... Well not exactly

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 10:50PM #1

Hi all,

I have recently started putting my cooked chicken breasts, rice and broccoli in to a food processor, mulching it up so as it forms a paste like substance.

I then package it in tubs and bring with me to eat at different intervals during the day. When I say eat, I mean shovel it in to my mouth and wash it straight back with water.

It's a simple and quick way of eating the required amounts of this otherwise very bland meal.

And finally I get to my question.... Probably a stupid question, but here goes... Is there any nutritional drawbacks to food processing your food this way and just swallowing it with water?

Your replies will be much appreciated.

Thanks

daenerysstormborn3 · 16-01-2013 10:55PM

That sounds absolutely disgusting. For me to stick to any sort of eating habit, I have to enjoy eating it, whatever it may be. You can't seriously enjoy eating that?

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 10:58PM

Genuinely it's grand hardly taste it as its literally in my mouth a few seconds and then down the trap with a drop of water... Very handy for eating large amounts of it.... However I am concerned for some reason that I may be losing some nutritional value?

miss tickle · 16-01-2013 11:12PM

There's nothing wrong with it but you could add more nutritional value and flavour with a few more ingredients, add some garlic, pepper, chili, tumeric, curry cummin, hemp oil, coconut oil, nuts, is it supposed to be oil free or low cal or have you carte blanche.

Zombienosh · 16-01-2013 11:19PM

Well if its blended into paste I'd imagine its getting digested a bit quicker.

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 11:19PM

It's not supposed to be low cal anyway... 150gr (cooked weight) chicken, 100gr rice and handful of broccoli in each serving by 4 sittings along with dinner in between and a 5 egg and half cup of oats omelette to start the day... I'm hoping its not low cal as intention is to put on some bulk inline with a weight lifting programme.. I haven't worked out my calorie requirements but it seems like a lot of food to me... Male, 29, 14stone, 6ft 2!!

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 11:21PM

Zombienosh wrote: »

Well if its blended into paste I'd imagine its getting digested a bit quicker.

Yes this was a concern of mine... Is this a bad thing that it is digested quicker, or does it just mean I will be hungry sooner than if it was solid food?

Zombienosh · 16-01-2013 11:24PM

There is no downside other than yes you might be hungry again sooner as it is digested faster.

miss tickle · 16-01-2013 11:29PM

smokey20 wrote: »

Yes this was a concern of mine... Is this a bad thing that it is digested quicker, or does it just mean I will be hungry sooner than if it was solid food?

It means both, It will digest quicker but may take less energy to break it down, which is good, I presume.

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 11:31PM

Zombienosh wrote: »

There is no downside other than yes you might be hungry again sooner as it is digested faster.

Thanks Zombienosh, do you think from my very brief diet plan I have posted in a few posts earlier that it is a low cal diet?

smokey20 · 16-01-2013 11:33PM

miss tickle wrote: »

It means both, It will digest quicker but may take less energy to break it down, which is good, I presume.

Thanks miss tickle.. Same question goes to you.. Do you think from the very brief diet plan I posted a few posted back that it is a low cal diet?

banquet · 17-01-2013 12:20AM

Zombienosh wrote: »

Well if its blended into paste I'd imagine its getting digested a bit quicker.

I doubt that very much, isn't that what our teeth do anyway when we chew food.

Mellor · 17-01-2013 03:09AM

smokey20 wrote: »

Thanks miss tickle.. Same question goes to you.. Do you think from the very brief diet plan I posted a few posted back that it is a low cal diet?

It's not low calorie at all. It could be 3500-4000 calories.

I think some of the other posters didn't understand you you were doing this with your food.

miss tickle · 17-01-2013 03:27AM

Mellor wrote: »

It's not low calorie at all. It could be 3500-4000 calories.

I think some of the other posters didn't understand you you were doing this with your food.

No, I wasn't sure, lack of fats etc., I thought it might have been a high protein lowish carb, sowwy

Zombienosh · 17-01-2013 09:29AM

banquet wrote: »

I doubt that very much, isn't that what our teeth do anyway when we chew food.

I dont think teeth are as good as a food processor.

smokey20 · 17-01-2013 02:46PM

thanks guys... not the biggest market research on my behalf, however I have come to the conclusion that it has no nutritional disadvantage from this way of eating/drinking and that it is a high enough calorie plan.

I recommend anyone looking to eat large to follow suit as it goes down quiet well.

Mellor · 18-01-2013 01:30AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3YirnapTI

Gummy Panda · 18-01-2013 01:53AM

Mellor wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3YirnapTI

And I thought those tuna and orange juice shakes I heard off were vile..

KTRIC · 18-01-2013 03:01AM

Mellor wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA3YirnapTI

I'm going to try that tomorrow

john_cappa · 18-01-2013 12:22PM

Realistically you will not be able to keep this up long term.

Variety and enjoyment are important facets of any diet and lifestyle. I cant see how what your doing is sustainable for a number of months let alone as a long term choice.

Kash · 18-01-2013 12:35PM

I'm no expert at all, but if you are swallowing paste with water, then you are probably not chewing at all, right?

In which case, your chicken meal won't have the usual digestive enzymes secreted by the mouth (which if I recall correctly start digesting starch and fat and also kill off lots of otherwise harmful bacteria). So I suppose it could actually slow your digestion down, or impede your absorption of it?

Just a theory though!

smokey20 · 18-01-2013 02:31PM

john_cappa wrote: »

Realistically you will not be able to keep this up long term.

Variety and enjoyment are important facets of any diet and lifestyle. I cant see how what your doing is sustainable for a number of months let alone as a long term choice.

I disagree, however only time will truly tell. Im 100% committed to building mass & mass & mass and keeping it there and eating large amount of clean food is a good way to do this. Im eating soley for the reason just stated and taste is not an issue.

smokey20 · 18-01-2013 02:35PM

Kash wrote: »

I'm no expert at all, but if you are swallowing paste with water, then you are probably not chewing at all, right?

In which case, your chicken meal won't have the usual digestive enzymes secreted by the mouth (which if I recall correctly start digesting starch and fat and also kill off lots of otherwise harmful bacteria). So I suppose it could actually slow your digestion down, or impede your absorption of it?

Just a theory though!

Yea, this is the type of thing I want to know more about... Yea, there is no chewing involved, simply put food in to mouth & drink back with water.. I certainly dont wanna poison myself if my normal chewing process and subsequent syliva producing is not breaking down the bacteria.

I have only been eating this way - baby like puree - since Monday. I had a big breakfast of eggs & porridge about 730am followed by my paste - 150gr chicken, 100gr rice & dose of brocolli at 1045am and now its 10mins before my next dining experience at 145pm and Im starving... even though iv been sitting in front of a computer all morning.

smokey20 · 18-01-2013 02:37PM

@mellor my computer is not picking up that image/link, howver Im sure its a beautiful concoction of sorts

Mellor · 18-01-2013 02:56PM

Kash wrote: »

In which case, your chicken meal won't have the usual digestive enzymes secreted by the mouth (which if I recall correctly start digesting starch and fat and also kill off lots of otherwise harmful bacteria). So I suppose it could actually slow your digestion down, or impede your absorption of it?

Just a theory though!

That might effect the rice (starch) but not chicken breast. The fat enzyme is also produced in our stomach.
So it's probably better with the rice on the side, but it's a minor change.

I would sweat about bacteria either.

john_cappa · 18-01-2013 03:14PM

How long are you training? Not long I assume from your stats?

How long have you been doing this and how many times a day?

If you keep it up fair play but I don't thinks its a heathy relationship to develope with food.

Kash · 18-01-2013 03:16PM

I did some quick googling this morning and found a few more interesting tidbits which basically boiled down to:

1. Chewing your food (i.e. mixing it with saliva, rather than bunging it in a food processor) creates a bolus which you then swallow - each bolus is the correct size and shape to be processed by the rest of your digestive system.

2. The enzymes in the mouth allow the enzymes in the stomach/intestine to act quicker, enhancing nutrient absorption.

3. Chewing exercises the mouth and jaws promoting correct orthodontic structure.

My conclusion: if you liquidize all food, you are likely to end up mal-nourished and slack jawed. This guy comes to mind :

(Personally, I can't see any harm with having some of your food like that though, its not much different to soup, is it?)

smokey20 · 18-01-2013 07:21PM

john_cappa wrote: »

How long are you training? Not long I assume from your stats?

How long have you been doing this and how many times a day?

If you keep it up fair play but I don't thinks its a heathy relationship to develope with food.

I haven't been training properly for a year and a half but am back in a good frame of mind for it now and am prepared to go all out for it to get (as gay as it sounds) the body that I want. I have only been back working out and eating this way the last week. I eat this way for mid morning, lunch and mid afternoon with a solid form breakfast and dinner.

Why do you think it's not a healthy relationship to develop with food?

Kash wrote: »

I did some quick googling this morning and found a few more interesting tidbits which basically boiled down to:

1. Chewing your food (i.e. mixing it with saliva, rather than bunging it in a food processor) creates a bolus which you then swallow - each bolus is the correct size and shape to be processed by the rest of your digestive system.

2. The enzymes in the mouth allow the enzymes in the stomach/intestine to act quicker, enhancing nutrient absorption.

3. Chewing exercises the mouth and jaws promoting correct orthodontic structure.

My conclusion: if you liquidize all food, you are likely to end up mal-nourished and slack jawed. This guy comes to mind :

(Personally, I can't see any harm with having some of your food like that though, its not much different to soup, is it?)

Ha ha great effect with Clidus... I assure u if I start looking anywhere near like him il stop... Do you think constantly chewing chewing gum would make up for the lack of chewing and enzyme producing that I'm missing out in for the 3 meals mentioned above?

john_cappa · 18-01-2013 07:40PM

3 meals a day of paste mmmmmmm! Lol

I just can't see it as a viable longer option! Mentally you will begin to reject it very quickly! You say you are willing to do this to get the body you want. Once you have it why then? You will need to maintain it! Are you going to do this for the next 10 years?

Why not eat normally? There is so much you can do with food. Viewing food purely for its nutritional benefit is not the best route to success.

All IMO of course.

Gummy Panda · 18-01-2013 08:01PM

OP you must be a big fan of RoboCop if you are making your food like his.

smokey20 · 18-01-2013 08:01PM

john_cappa wrote: »

3 meals a day of paste mmmmmmm! Lol

I just can't see it as a viable longer option! Mentally you will begin to reject it very quickly! You say you are willing to do this to get the body you want. Once you have it why then? You will need to maintain it! Are you going to do this for the next 10 years?

Why not eat normally? There is so much you can do with food. Viewing food purely for its nutritional benefit is not the best route to success.

All IMO of course.

Valid point u make re me doing this to get the body I want and what will I do to maintain it.. Ur right I can't see myself doing this for 10years.. Very good point which I hadn't thought of.. I guess il have to get the body 1st and then consider what my next step will be..

"Why not eat normally"... I do for 3 of my 6 meals a day... I'm just eating this way as its quick and I need quick eating during the day.

Last point.. This phrase "paste" has been misconstrued.. It is blended and each rice grain is probably half the size it should be and the chicken and broccoli is the same size as the halved rice grain.. So it's not quiet "paste", just blended food!

Processed Chicken.... Well not exactly

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