Unemployed boardies would you actually work in aldi/lidi or factory for minimum wage

Darkglasses · 12-01-2013 05:05PM

Where To wrote: »

It's lazy, ignorant, and rude.

I don't see how it's any of those things.

Wanderer2010 · 12-01-2013 05:06PM

Is it true Lidl/Aldi have a really bad rep for starting off decent enough but gradually wearing down the workers by demanding an extra few hours one week, an extra shift the next and so on until crazy hours are standard, I have heard that several times now from people who currently and used to work there, turnover and bullying is supposed to be really bad..

kneemos · 12-01-2013 05:11PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Is it true Lidl/Aldi have a really bad rep for starting off decent enough but gradually wearing down the workers by demanding an extra few hours one week, an extra shift the next and so on until crazy hours are standard, I have heard that several times now from people who currently and used to work there, turnover and bullying is supposed to be really bad..

There does seem to be an air of misery plus some of the staff bring the level of disinterest to a spectacular level.

mikemac1 · 12-01-2013 05:11PM

Aldi/Lidl and most factories don't pay minimum wage and they treat you better then any Irish hotel I've ever worked in

Where To · 12-01-2013 05:11PM

CommanderC wrote: »

Should I also bow while asking this ?

No, proper etiquette will suffice.

ThreeLineWhip · 12-01-2013 05:12PM

The problem is that for many unemployed it is actually better financially to mooch off the state. €188 a week, rent allowance, medical card etc.

Not many will give that up for a min wage job that at the end of the week only has you €50 better off than welfare with the loss of benefits.

Where To · 12-01-2013 05:15PM

Darkglasses wrote: »

I don't see how it's any of those things.

Work for me for a couple of days and I'd soon re-educate ya.

kneemos · 12-01-2013 05:15PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

The problem is that for many unemployed it is actually better financially to mooch off the state. €188 a week, rent allowance, medical card etc.

Not many will give that up for a min wage job that at the end of the week only has you €50 better off than welfare with the loss of benefits.

You only get rent allowance if your homeless as far as I know.

ganger · 12-01-2013 05:18PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

The problem is that for many unemployed it is actually better financially to mooch off the state. €188 a week, rent allowance, medical card etc.

Not many will give that up for a min wage job that at the end of the week only has you €50 better off than welfare with the loss of benefits.

I was unempolyed and wasnt ENTITLED to any of the above.

Max Power · 12-01-2013 05:20PM

kneemos wrote: »

You only get rent allowance if your homeless as far as I know.

Lol

kneemos · 12-01-2013 05:20PM

sfwcork wrote: »

You alright there?

Maybe it's just your phrasing but of course people would work in these places,though during the boom it may have been different,also I wouldn't consider either Aldi or a factory hard work.

sfwcork · 12-01-2013 05:32PM

Where To wrote: »

Work for me for a couple of days and I'd soon re-educate ya.

Jimmy saville is still alive and well grooming on boards

kneemos · 12-01-2013 05:33PM

FionnMcCool87 wrote: »

Lol

I think thems the rules,if you live at home you can't just decide you fancy a flat,if your "kicked out"of your home you can get rent allowance but yot still have to rent privately for six months.There's a lot of myth surrounding welfare.

ThreeLineWhip · 12-01-2013 05:35PM

There is no requirement to rent for 6 months if you have had a housing needs assessment.

newmug · 12-01-2013 05:44PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

The problem is that for many unemployed it is actually better financially to mooch off the state. €188 a week, rent allowance, medical card etc.

Not many will give that up for a min wage job that at the end of the week only has you €50 better off than welfare with the loss of benefits.

Your problem is ignorance. What you have just typed there is pure tripe.

kneemos · 12-01-2013 05:48PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

There is no requirement to rent for 6 months if you have had a housing needs assessment.

In that case you would probably be in need of housing,no?

ThreeLineWhip · 12-01-2013 05:50PM

newmug wrote: »

Your problem is ignorance. What you have just typed there is pure tripe.

Really?

Such an inciteful post.

Czarcasm · 12-01-2013 06:15PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

Really?

Such an inciteful post.

Your post was inciteful, newmugs post was insightful. Two very different meanings!

Hippies! · 12-01-2013 06:53PM

Silly thread, people will do whatever is necessary. Best job I had in my teens was factory work, we had a gay ol' time.

jimmycrackcorm · 12-01-2013 08:12PM

I would work for Aldi or Lidl but unfortunately I'm not Chinese or east-European.

mikemac1 · 12-01-2013 08:17PM

They could do with hiring some more staff

Lidl seem to take pride in having customers queue up while most of their tills are closed!

Kinski · 12-01-2013 08:23PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

They could do with hiring some more staff

Lidl seem to take pride in having customers queue up while most of their tills are closed!

How else do you think they keep the prices so low?

Fuh Q · 12-01-2013 08:31PM

Darkglasses wrote: »

As mentioned Aldi/Lidl, although the work isn't great, pays better than minimum wage.

What about Hotel work? Minimum wage, long hours, pretty dismal work.

I work in a Hotel, Im not on minimum wage and I work 9 hour shifts.

twistyj · 12-01-2013 08:40PM

I would give anything to work in a factory part time.

Where To · 12-01-2013 08:43PM

twistyj wrote: »

I would give anything to work in a factory part time.

Would you give up your weekend?

UCDVet · 12-01-2013 08:54PM

Honestly?

If I could get the dole and not work - I'd take it for as long as I could. I'd use the time to improve myself; I'm currently working full-time and going to school and trying to do all sorts of extra-curricular activities I don't have time to do.

On the dole, without needing to work, I could still pay for my modest lifestyle, and finish my education in 1/4th the time. Once I finish that, I'd turn my attention to a handful of business start-up ideas I've always wished I had the time and money to pursue. Instead of spending 40 hours working for someone else and getting nowhere, I'd collect the dole and spend 30 hours a week working on things I want to work on that PROBABLY wouldn't really work out; but if they did would mean a very successful business for myself.

I don't know the details of the dole or how long I could stay on it; but let's say I take 2-3 years. I'd have more freetime, be way happier, finish my education, and be able to go to a job interview and talk about my experience starting my own company and the skillset I've built. If they ask why I'm not continuing with my business, I'll say that 'While I absolutely believe in the long-term viability of my company, my wife and I are at a point in our lives where we want to have a family and the short-term ups and downs of a start-up aren't what we're looking for.'

In five years I might have less money in the bank, but I think I'd be a better person and have a better job if I could just 'chill out' and not work. I wouldn't consider working for minimum wage, it's a lot of work and it'd only be slightly more money.

Most of the people I've known personally who have had very successful careers or started their own business had a transition period where someone else was supporting them or where they weren't making any money. If the dole wants to fill that role for me, I'd be darn happy about it.

Now, if I couldn't get the dole; then I'd take whatever job I could.

bodice ripper · 12-01-2013 09:13PM

always, there is no job that I am to good for.

deciding to take to take some personal time until something suits me better or is relevant to my training and/or desired area IS beneath me. **** that.

Tombi! · 12-01-2013 09:16PM

I wouldn't have a problem with it assuming I wasn't being mistreated or anything.

But I wouldn't do it if I wasn't earning enough. Minimum wage doesn't bother me but if the hours aren't enough then I wouldn't do it.

Czarcasm · 12-01-2013 09:22PM

UCDVet wrote: »

Honestly?

If I could get the dole and not work - I'd take it for as long as I could. I'd use the time to improve myself; I'm currently working full-time and going to school and trying to do all sorts of extra-curricular activities I don't have time to do.

On the dole, without needing to work, I could still pay for my modest lifestyle, and finish my education in 1/4th the time. Once I finish that, I'd turn my attention to a handful of business start-up ideas I've always wished I had the time and money to pursue. Instead of spending 40 hours working for someone else and getting nowhere, I'd collect the dole and spend 30 hours a week working on things I want to work on that PROBABLY wouldn't really work out; but if they did would mean a very successful business for myself.

I don't know the details of the dole or how long I could stay on it; but let's say I take 2-3 years. I'd have more freetime, be way happier, finish my education, and be able to go to a job interview and talk about my experience starting my own company and the skillset I've built. If they ask why I'm not continuing with my business, I'll say that 'While I absolutely believe in the long-term viability of my company, my wife and I are at a point in our lives where we want to have a family and the short-term ups and downs of a start-up aren't what we're looking for.'

In five years I might have less money in the bank, but I think I'd be a better person and have a better job if I could just 'chill out' and not work. I wouldn't consider working for minimum wage, it's a lot of work and it'd only be slightly more money.

Most of the people I've known personally who have had very successful careers or started their own business had a transition period where someone else was supporting them or where they weren't making any money. If the dole wants to fill that role for me, I'd be darn happy about it.

Now, if I couldn't get the dole; then I'd take whatever job I could.

Cloud cuckoo land has a special happy place for people that think like you! :pac:

You're stopped in your tracks before you even begin because the social welfare will not pay for your education. You will get the back to education allowance at best.

When you start your business you would be getting a back to work enterprise allowance. Nothing to write home about either.

You will receive no rent allowance when you are on either of these payments.

There's no "probably" about it if you're already thinking about going into business with the idea of failure in mind.

If you go into an interview and tell them what you just put down there, don't be surprised if they bin your CV and tell you "GTFO, Chancer!".

In five years time if you're still on social welfare you'll have no money in the bank, and you'll be a mere shell of your former enthusiastic and dreamy self.

In short- Don't bother wasting your time trying to "beat the system", better wasters than you have tried, and they think they're so clever, but the only person they're fooling is themselves, and trust me- they really aren't "better people for it".

franktheplank · 12-01-2013 09:32PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

The problem is that for many unemployed it is actually better financially to mooch off the state. €188 a week, rent allowance, medical card etc.

Not many will give that up for a min wage job that at the end of the week only has you €50 better off than welfare with the loss of benefits.

Economically it's shown to be better if people 'mooch off the state' at times.

Lets say a skilled worker is let go from their job, if they take up unskilled work immediately, chances are a length of time will pass before they find skilled work again and the economy is minus a skilled worker.

It is best for the economy, in many cases, if people work in jobs they are most suited to. This is a process which can take time and if people are supported during this time they are less likely to be pressurized into taking unsuitable work.

Unemployed boardies would you actually work in aldi/lidi or factory for minimum wage

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