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Current wisdom on sum of money found

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    #92
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It might be dirty money

    no, stick it in the washing machine?:p


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    #93
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    no, stick it in the washing machine?:p

    Worse.

    Then it'd be laundered.


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    #94
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Madam_X wrote: »
    "The vast majority would pocket it" and "high horse" tripe translates as: "I'd pocket 300 euro no prob and I'm not comfortable with others saying they wouldn't be able to, so I'll make myself feel better by speaking for nearly everyone else and projecting my take on them." Like the "everyone's somewhat racist" bollocks. :)

    It's just more pathetic justification, take a look at the contents of lost and found offices around the world, http://www.timeout.com/london/big-smoke/features/2812/London_Underground_lost_property.html full to the brim of stuff handed in by these 'rare and scarce' decent people.
    You are not 'entitled' to it just because you don't 'feel bad'. If the amount of stuff handed in and back to it's rightful owners diminishes as we 'progress' as a race, that speaks for it self don't you think?


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    #95
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Valetta wrote: »
    Worse.

    Then it'd be laundered.

    feck! CALL THE GARDS!!!!:eek:


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    #96
    martinn123
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Jaysus Lads, I found a Euro Coin on the path this morning.
    After reading this thread I am at a total loss as to the right thing to do.

    So I have decided to put 3 euro to it and have a pint on the way home while I struggle with my concience


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    #97
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Jaysus Lads, I found a Euro Coin on the path this morning.
    After reading this thread I am at a total loss as to the right thing to do.

    So I have decided to put 3 euro to it and have a pint on the way home while I struggle with my concience

    How hard is it to find a poor box in a shop or pub or church? Or maybe that would be a shockingly uncool thing to do?


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    #98
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Jaysus Lads, I found a Euro Coin on the path this morning.
    After reading this thread I am at a total loss as to the right thing to do.

    So I have decided to put 3 euro to it and have a pint on the way home while I struggle with my concience
    Second post pretending one euro is comparable to 300 euro. Strange logic. :confused:

    Tbh I wouldn't care if it was less than 50 euro but 300 euro is an awful lot of money for many people.


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    #99
    WallyGUFC
    Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    How hard is it to find a poor box in a shop or pub or church? Or maybe that would be a shockingly uncool thing to do?
    Why would anybody give any money to a church ever? Or a charity who's CEO is paid a massive salary? OP hit a bit of good fortune. Maybe it'll come back and bite him on the hole. So what? I know I'd do the same, and I know plenty of others who would too. People seem to be taking it awful personally!


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    #100
    fanki na pengin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    How hard is it to find a poor box in a shop or pub or church? Or maybe that would be a shockingly uncool thing to do?

    Much harder than putting it in your pocket.


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    #101
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Why would anybody give any money to a church ever? Or a charity who's CEO is paid a massive salary? OP hit a bit of good fortune. Maybe it'll come back and bite him on the hole. So what? I know I'd do the same, and I know plenty of others who would too. People seem to be taking it awful personally!
    People seem to be taking "I couldn't just pocket 300 euro immediately" awful personal too - hits a nerve for them you see.

    The OP didn't have a bit of good fortune. At all. Somebody else had a LOT of bad fortune and the OP is profiting from it.


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    #102
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Why would anybody give any money to a church ever? Or a charity who's CEO is paid a massive salary? OP hit a bit of good fortune. Maybe it'll come back and bite him on the hole. So what? I know I'd do the same, and I know plenty of others who would too. People seem to be taking it awful personally!

    Just leave it on the ground then, leave it for somebody who is not so lazy about decency.


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    #103
    seanl77
    Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭seanl77


    If the original owner of the cash was dumb enough to lose €300 in the first place, i wouldnt have much sympathy for them to be honest. I would have kept the cash, and thanked my lucky stars for the windfall. Phones and wallets i would make the effort to track the owner as it would be relatively straight forward, but cold hard cash....... no chance! The gardai would piss themselves laughing if that amount was handed in, they just ring a mate who comes and claims it from the station


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    #104
    Rasmus
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    Was the sum found near a bank? That would be the first place I'd leave a message and probably the first place I'd check if I had taken a sum of money out of the bank and lost it.


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    #105
    Il Trap
    Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭Il Trap


    I'm just imagining if that was my rent money that I had dropped while I was on the way to lodge it in the bank. I'd be devestated. And considering you made zero effort to find the owner I'd think you a bit of a selfish pr!ck OP.


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    #106
    Annasopra
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    Il Trap wrote: »
    I'm just imagining if that was my rent money that I had dropped while I was on the way to lodge it in the bank. I'd be devestated. And considering you made zero effort to find the owner I'd think you a bit of a selfish pr!ck OP.

    +1

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #107
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Il Trap wrote: »
    I'm just imagining if that was my rent money that I had dropped while I was on the way to lodge it in the bank. I'd be devestated. And considering you made zero effort to find the owner I'd think you a bit of a selfish pr!ck OP.

    Excuse me, a selfish prick with 300 quid off his credit card bill if you please.

    This experience has been a bit of an eye opener for me, it amazes me how pious some people are in their judgements, my natural instinct is far more dog eat dog.


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    #108
    Rasmus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Excuse me, a selfish prick with 300 quid off his credit card bill if you please.

    This experience has been a bit of an eye opener for me, it amazes me how pious some people are in their judgements, my natural instinct is far more dog eat dog.

    Just wondering - if you saw a sign in your local shop pleading the safe return of a lost sum of money (the correct sum, lost in the place you found it) would you consider this money 'found' or stolen?


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    #109
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Excuse me, a selfish prick with 300 quid off his credit card bill if you please.

    .

    I paid €500 off my credit card today, but I didn't steal it.


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    #110
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Rasmus wrote: »
    Just wondering - if you saw a sign in your local shop pleading the safe return of a lost sum of money (the correct sum, lost in the place you found it) would you consider this money 'found' or stolen?

    Had I spent it I doubt I would look to return it.
    Definitely not stolen as I never entered their property or went through their belongs.
    It's a pure act of chance & I'll accept it as luck.


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    #111
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Rasmus wrote: »
    Just wondering - if you saw a sign in your local shop pleading the safe return of a lost sum of money (the correct sum, lost in the place you found it) would you consider this money 'found' or stolen?

    I am begining to suspect that the OP and those trenchantly saying this is a good and right thing to do are those who have little experience at having responsibilities. Most people would do the right thing here, well, I like to believe they would anyway and have been on the recieving end of honesty and concern a few times in my life. Also lost money and stuff and never saw it again too but I don't let that make me cynical and selfish.


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    #112
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Definitely not stolen as I never entered their property or went through their belongs.
    According to the law, knowingly depriving another person of their property by failing to take reasonable steps to try and determine the property's rightful owner is theft.

    Seems fairly cut-and-dried to me.


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    #113
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Definitely not stolen as I never entered their property or went through their belongs.

    You've a funny idea of what stealing is.


    steal/stil/ Show Spelled [steel] Show IPA verb, stole, sto·len, steal·ing, noun.
    verb (used with object)
    1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
    2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
    3. to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance:


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    #114
    Rasmus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Had I spent it I doubt I would look to return it.
    Definitely not stolen as I never entered their property or went through their belongs.
    It's a pure act of chance & I'll accept it as luck.

    But the thing is, the sum of money you found is someone's property. There was nothing lucky about this incident - you simply benefited from somebody's bad fortune.
    A lottery win, for example, is chance and luck.


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    #115
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,996 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Excuse me, a selfish prick with 300 quid off his credit card bill if you please.

    This experience has been a bit of an eye opener for me, it amazes me how pious some people are in their judgements, my natural instinct is far more dog eat dog.

    The reality is that is completely indefensible and is hugely shameful

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #116
    greenheart
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭greenheart


    This is a bit long -
    A friend of mine in her teens found 6,000 punts wrapped in an elastic band. She was in work and a man she was serving left it on the table with a few coins. When he was leaving he said I left money there on the table for you, she taught it was the coins and when she found the notes she ran out looking for him but couldn't find him so then she gave it straight to the owner of the pub, telling him what he guy looked like. A week later the owner gave her 50 punts and said the guy came back looking for it that he was delighted and left 50punts for her.
    My friend never met her real dad, she knew of him and knew he lived in dublin but it never bothered her until she was getting married so 2 years ago she bit the bullet and they met up.
    After a few months he told her that he was the one who left that money in the pub :eek: He taught that she got the money, he never went back to the pub or never got the money back so the pub onwer kept it..
    It kills her when she thinks about it, she was so broke at the time and how stupid he was just to leave it the way he did.


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    #117
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    seamus wrote: »
    According to the law, knowingly depriving another person of their property by failing to take reasonable steps to try and determine the property's rightful owner is theft.

    Seems fairly cut-and-dried to me.

    Before I made my decision the forum were in a consensus
    saiint wrote: »
    keep it , pay off bills
    finders keepers
    losers go **** urselfs :D
    Hippies! wrote: »
    Yonk! Drugs & Booze :)

    No seriously OP it's mine, can I have it back? I need it for sick children in Africa or something.
    Zombienosh wrote: »
    ah the age old question.


    spend it on hooers.
    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Fúck that - if you'd found a wallet with id then yes, by all means give it back - but just a wad of cash - take that as the universe giving you a late chrimbo pressie. Spend it and count yourself lucky.
    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It might be dirty money

    keep it
    Pippa Middleton's Arse wrote: »
    Thank the money Gods and spend it on stuff.

    Be warned though, it may bring very very bad luck and misfortune with it. It wasn't so lucky for it's last owner. Be sure and have your affairs in order.
    Dodge wrote: »
    at the moment, if it as me, I wouldn't ven tell the missus. She'd only want to spend ti on the house, or worse, 'the family'

    Go into a bookies. Stick it all on the next favourite. If it loses you'll at least get a little thrill ride out of it. if it wins, you can hand it in and still have a windfall to do what you realy want to do with it.

    Enjoy
    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    Keep the money, mate.

    - You give it to the Gardai and it'll go missing :rolleyes:
    - You ask the neighbours if it's their's 10 of them will say it was :rolleyes:

    Keep it.

    Taunts & guilt will not sway me as this was a collective decision.


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    #118
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Sure it was, criminal


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    #119
    Motopepe
    Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Motopepe


    I think it interesting too that the OP is setting up a defence of his decision by contrasting his "dog eat dog" natural instinct with "how pious some people are in their judgements".

    Current Wisdom?? This idea suggests to me that wisdom is a changeable phenomena.
    Has current wisdom changed here????

    A collective decision?? Thats a bit cheeky!


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    #120
    full_irish
    Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭full_irish


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Before I made my decision the forum were in a consensus

    Taunts & guilt will not sway me as this was a collective decision.

    Selectively quoting the ones who agree with you getting what you want, OK.



    Feck it, tis worth saying it to you for whatever infraction i get as a result.


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    #121
    fanki na pengin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    Il Trap wrote: »
    I'm just imagining if that was my rent money that I had dropped while I was on the way to lodge it in the bank. I'd be devestated. And considering you made zero effort to find the owner I'd think you a bit of a selfish pr!ck OP.

    I'm just imagining it's a drug dealer's money that he dropped while off his tits, coming back from beating up his girlfriend to within an inch of her life.

    While I might agree to an extent about trying to find the original owner (a lot of varying circumstances would change my opinion on this), hypothesizing about who owned the money is pointless.


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