Farming Chit Chat

reilig · 14-12-2012 10:51AM

Lads and ladies,

The payment for the Suckler Discussion group is due to be paid out before christmas. All BTAP advisors have received confirmation by email of who in their group has met the 2 required measures and who has not in the last 5 days. It may be worth a call to your BTAP advisor to ensure that you have been approved for payment.

The majority of people who haven't met the 2 measures are those who are doing task 3 (Genetic Merit). Many people opted to use this measure and use a 5 star AI bull on 25% of their herd. The problem is that some of the AI men have not sent back the records of insemination to ICBF as yet and therefore there is no record of you having used this 5 star bull. To get over this, you need to go onto the ICBF website and input the AI codes for each of your cows. If you do this today, it is likely that you may get the payment before christmas!!

If you want a small stocking filler, it might be worth your while to get on top of this!!

Timmaay · 14-12-2012 11:53AM

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dairycattle/4304540 :eek: Lets hope thats a prank, or are Jerseys that bad these days!

Timmaay · 14-12-2012 11:56AM

reilig wrote: »

The payment for the Suckler Discussion group is due to be paid out before christmas.

Anyone know when the Dairy discussion payment is due?

simx · 14-12-2012 12:01PM

Timmaay wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dairycattle/4304540 :eek: Lets hope thats a prank, or are Jerseys that bad these days!

surlry youd get a tenner for them somewhere,dont look too bad in pic,saw jersey in calf cows calving in feb going for 250/300 recently

bbam · 14-12-2012 12:31PM

Timmaay wrote: »

or are Jerseys that bad these days!

Few weeks ago a JER/FR bull 9 months old went through the ring locally, sold at 90c/kilo. Dont remember the weight though.

Yes, I'd say they are nearly a dead loss if you were to value their feeding properly.

tanko · 14-12-2012 01:24PM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

€40 a pop but he said the next batch will be at least €60 due to limited availability.
Thats getting saucy but is it a lot either if you get the calf you wanted..?

That's some price hike, they were 10 euro a straw in the summer!!!

whelan1 · 14-12-2012 02:41PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Anyone know when the Dairy discussion payment is due?

normally february/ march

Durrus Boy · 14-12-2012 03:19PM

tanko wrote: »

That's some price hike, they were 10 euro a straw in the summer!!!

Just in relation to this topic,what do you guys think is max. reasonable price for beef semen on a commercial basis?

Deal with all the A.I. companies and was clearing the balance on all my accounts this week. Very little discount or extra straws provided by the 'main' companies which surprised me a little (bills only related from Sept. onwards before you ask!!:D)

Personally think €10 a pop is plenty considering there's a long road from purchasing straws to earning a few €€€€ and the 'lucky dip' that animal breeding tends to be!!

Opinions?????????

tismesoitis · 14-12-2012 04:09PM

Durrus Boy wrote: »

Just in relation to this topic,what do you guys think is max. reasonable price for beef semen on a commercial basis?

Deal with all the A.I. companies and was clearing the balance on all my accounts this week. Very little discount or extra straws provided by the 'main' companies which surprised me a little (bills only related from Sept. onwards before you ask!!:D)

Personally think €10 a pop is plenty considering there's a long road from purchasing straws to earning a few €€€€ and the 'lucky dip' that animal breeding tends to be!!

Opinions?????????

i agree with u 10 is max for commercial breeding i try to get cheeper by getting volume without compromising on quality. on pedigrees have paid up as far as €100 per straw which i won't do again 50 -€60 will be tops!!

tanko · 14-12-2012 04:33PM

I think that the range of straws that can be bought from 8 to 14 euros are good value.There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he?!!

vanderbadger · 14-12-2012 04:38PM

tanko wrote: »

I think that the range of straws that can be bought from 8 to 14 euros are good value.There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he?!!

http://www.semenstore.co.uk/view-bull/vantastic/36/
could you drive over with your tank in the boot or is that illegal?

AntrimGlens · 14-12-2012 04:52PM

There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he

We have quite a few straws of Vantastic in the flask and the oul fella put two up for auction at a charity event last year - went for £700 each!:)

whelan1 · 14-12-2012 05:19PM

paviya wrote: »

I am new user here

welcome

bogman_bass · 14-12-2012 05:22PM

vanderbadger wrote: »

http://www.semenstore.co.uk/view-bull/vantastic/36/
could you drive over with your tank in the boot or is that illegal?

nope. you need health papers and it has to come through a semen collection center.

as for buyinmg straws off donedeal, how do you know his pot didnt go dry and thats why he's flogging them?

tismesoitis · 14-12-2012 05:49PM

tanko wrote: »

I think that the range of straws that can be bought from 8 to 14 euros are good value.There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he?!!

yes he'l get it alrite. a friend of mine swaped 2 straws for 2 top drawer embryos! he really is a cracker we have one out our best cow gonna flush her in the new year!!

redzerologhlen · 14-12-2012 06:04PM

reilig wrote: »

Lads and ladies,

The payment for the Suckler Discussion group is due to be paid out before christmas. All BTAP advisors have received confirmation by email of who in their group has met the 2 required measures and who has not in the last 5 days. It may be worth a call to your BTAP advisor to ensure that you have been approved for payment.

The majority of people who haven't met the 2 measures are those who are doing task 3 (Genetic Merit). Many people opted to use this measure and use a 5 star AI bull on 25% of their herd. The problem is that some of the AI men have not sent back the records of insemination to ICBF as yet and therefore there is no record of you having used this 5 star bull. To get over this, you need to go onto the ICBF website and input the AI codes for each of your cows. If you do this today, it is likely that you may get the payment before christmas!!

If you want a small stocking filler, it might be worth your while to get on top of this!!

Reilig I might throw a spanner in the works here but what happens if you do diy ai? Do I just go into icbf and record ai and fill it in and should I be ok?

pakalasa · 14-12-2012 07:56PM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he

We have quite a few straws of Vantastic in the flask and the oul fella put two up for auction at a charity event last year - went for £700 each!:)

Or you could use either of his sons in NCBC, TVR or GWO for a €10 or whatever.

hugo29 · 14-12-2012 08:11PM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

There's a lad on donedeal looking for 1300 euros for two vantastic straws, i know he's the in bull at the moment but he'll never get that, will he

We have quite a few straws of Vantastic in the flask and the oul fella put two up for auction at a charity event last year - went for £700 each!:)

What sort of super bull is "vantastic"

hugo29 · 14-12-2012 08:16PM

Lads and ladies, has anyone come across a constipated calf, few days ago he had milk scour, gave him a shot of bimostat, now he going around as if he is trying to push a bale of silage out of his ass,

pakalasa · 14-12-2012 08:19PM

hugo29 wrote: »

What sort of super bull is "vantastic"

http://www.wilodge.com/html/limousin.html

His 1/2 brother Wilodge Cerberus. He's every bit as good, if not better.

mf240 · 14-12-2012 08:39PM

hugo29 wrote: »

Lads and ladies, has anyone come across a constipated calf, few days ago he had milk scour, gave him a shot of bimostat, now he going around as if he is trying to push a bale of silage out of his ass,

It could be cocidosis if hes forcing constantly, was there any blood in the milk scour a few days ago?

whelan1 · 14-12-2012 09:22PM

went to causey farm in county meath today, for the santa experience, anyone thinking of opening an open farm should go there, it was fantastic... kids loved it, had michael o leary of ryanair and his family in our group:o

redzerologhlen · 14-12-2012 09:28PM

whelan1 wrote: »

went to causey farm in county meath today, for the santa experience, amyone thinking of opening an open farm should go there, it was frantastic... kids loved it, had michael o leary of ryanair and his family in our gruop:o

A nice man.

whelan1 · 14-12-2012 09:29PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

A nice man.

yup. very down to earth

moy83 · 14-12-2012 09:39PM

A couple of months ago a lad up the road was telling me that I was cracked using limo straws on our cows because they were poor sellers in the mart and would only get worse :rolleyes: There is no talking to this lad , he is always right and himself and his father often give me an ould dig because we only usually keep small black cows instead of charlies or blues that they use .
Anyhow I was passing this evening when they called me in to show me six "cheap" suck calves they were after buying . Six 2wk old rotbunt bull calves at E200 each

that are like blues he said but they dont muscle up as quick
It made my evening to see them

just do it · 14-12-2012 10:04PM

moy83 wrote: »

A couple of months ago a lad up the road was telling me that I was cracked using limo straws on our cows because they were poor sellers in the mart and would only get worse :rolleyes: There is no talking to this lad , he is always right and himself and his father often give me an ould dig because we only usually keep small black cows instead of charlies or blues that they use .

There's one in every parish :rolleyes:

that are like blues he said but they dont muscle up as quick

Sweet

. Are he's blues dual purpose as well?!

moy83 · 14-12-2012 10:11PM

just do it wrote: »

There's one in every parish :rolleyes:

Sweet . Are he's blues dual purpose as well?!

Should be milky alright I think the red is in them because they would be something like a simmental x blue . He will be getting around E700 for them in april/may he told me

:D

redzerologhlen · 14-12-2012 10:22PM

moy83 wrote: »

Should be milky alright I think the red is in them because they would be something like a simmental x blue . He will be getting around E700 for them in april/may he told me :D

Great business move on his behalf so!! There's a few of them in every parish, all you can do is massage their ego a bit more!!

moy83 · 14-12-2012 10:31PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Great business move on his behalf so!! There's a few of them in every parish, all you can do is massage their ego a bit more!!

I wouldnt usually like to see someone being codded but these lads got under my skin a few times so I left them as wise as they were about them

Manoffeeling · 14-12-2012 10:38PM

hugo29 wrote: »

Lads and ladies, has anyone come across a constipated calf, few days ago he had milk scour, gave him a shot of bimostat, now he going around as if he is trying to push a bale of silage out of his ass,

I have had it. He would get up and walk a bit then sit down. He didn't look sick but knew he had a pain. Had a temp of 38. I assume you know how to arouse the bowel, for want of a better word. Plenty of parrafin oil and an antibiotic.

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