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(SIX!) Gardai sent to arrest mother of unpaid fine at 3.30AM

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  • #122
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    based on it being a halting site is not grounds to assume there is a risk
    You said it was hostile. Not me. :rolleyes:


  • #123
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    seamus wrote: »
    Try it in squad car with a luminous jacket and see if they're so delighted to see you.

    so if you arrive on a halting in luminous jacket and a squad car...what ??

    did anything happen the 6 gob****es that night ? no nothing happened, and it dosen't matter if there was 6 or 20 of them they would be still out numbered, thats why i was asking the other poster what was his point.


  • #124
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,016 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    lanomist wrote: »
    We all know what they were at,
    really? we do? your never serious surely? funnily enough i don't, nor care either, i have a life.
    lanomist wrote: »
    its not rocket science.
    no, of course it isn't, travelers being out is travelers being out and rocket science is rocket science.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #125
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    PizzamanIRL wrote: »
    Sigh.

    onara


  • #126
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Zulu wrote: »
    You said it was hostile. Not me. :rolleyes:

    i was replying to a person who said it was hostile 1st

    read the thread


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  • #127
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    so if you arrive on a halting in luminous jacket and a squad car...what ??

    did anything happen the 6 gob****es that night ? no nothing happened, and it dosen't matter if there was 6 or 20 of them they would be still out numbered, thats why i was asking the other poster what was his point.

    Nothing happened. Was it because there were six of them? We'll never know.

    Good luck in your dangerous food delivery career.


  • #128
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Was this a bit heavy handed by the Gardai?

    Its not like they were going after a murderer, the woman in question had a €250 fine for using her phone whilst driving outstanding.



    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/six-gardai-sent-to-arrest-mum-for-unpaid-fine-at-3am-3323199.html


    Bit OTT by the Gards, or completely justified?

    In all fairness they were walking into a halting site in the dead of night.

    What would you have done OP?
    magma69 wrote: »
    And the scumbags that are responsible for inflicting hardship and poverty on ordinary people for years to come get big fat pensions.

    Good to see we have our priorities right.

    This kind of post is starting to get old.

    Does everything have to come back to this? Move on.


  • #129
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    based on it being a halting site is not grounds to assume there is a risk
    you're being disingenuous. It's not just due to it being a random halting site, it's due to it being one that's well known to the guards for violence. Kess, who is familiar with the area, has already made this point.

    I also wouldn't agree with decent travellers experiencing hostility from settled people, but there's no need to deny reality either.


  • #130
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Because that's the same thing...

    Anyhoo, do you really need my point explained to you? Are you really unable to comprehend my meaning? Like, for cereal?

    you dont/are unable to point anything out to me magicmarker im from these areas. I just see your posts as painting everyone with the same brush/thanks whoring.


  • #131
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    laoch na mona wrote: »
    i was replying to a person who said it was hostile 1st

    read the thread
    Your issue, at the time, didn't include referring to the site as hostile. In fact, your post appeared to accept that point.

    Of course you now seem to imply that halting sites are NOT hostile to guards who show up to make arrests.

    Care to clarify? Are you saying it wasn't a potentially hostile environment requiring more than 1 arresting guard?


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  • #132
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Madam_X wrote: »
    you're being disingenuous. It's not just due to it being a random halting site, it's due to it being one that's well known to the guards for violence. Kess, who is familiar with the area, has already made this point.

    I also wouldn't agree with decent travellers experiencing hostility from settled people, but there's no need to deny reality either.

    i dont have a problem with them use other criteria such as crime in the ares ect
    in fact i said that a few posts ago


  • #133
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    PizzamanIRL wrote: »
    Sigh.
    Would you be interested in elaborating?


  • #134
    MagicMarker
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    cruiser178 wrote: »
    you dont/are unable to point anything out to me magicmarker im from these areas. I just see your posts as painting everyone with the same brush/thanks whoring.

    I'm not painting everyone with the same brush, I'm dealing in realities. And the reality is that these Guards, who would likely be familiar with the halting site, decided that it would be in their best interests to execute the warrant in this way. Their reason for doing so is as clear as day to most of us.


  • #135
    cruiser178
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    MagicSean wrote: »
    Nothing happened. Was it because there were six of them? We'll never know.

    Good luck in your dangerous food delivery career.


    Are you aware of the size of these halting sites 6 would be nothing. but they didnt need them in the first place did they, the guards were calling to a woman's home.

    Thanks for your concern on my first choise of career btw, i know you really mean it :D


  • #136
    Zulu
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Would you be interested in elaborating?

    Would you be interested in the elaboration? I know I wouldn't be. :p


  • #137
    Zulu
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    cruiser178 wrote: »
    ... but they didnt need them in the first place did they, the guards were calling to a woman's home.
    ...and women can't be dangerous. :rolleyes:


  • #138
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Zulu wrote: »
    Your issue, at the time, didn't include referring to the site as hostile. In fact, your post appeared to accept that point.

    Of course you now seem to imply that halting sites are NOT hostile to guards who show up to make arrests.

    Care to clarify? Are you saying it wasn't a potentially hostile environment requiring more than 1 arresting guard?

    hostile in the way most working class (can't think of a better description) areas would be towards garda yes but that "hostility" is more unwelcoming then anything else
    kinda like how I would be hostile to any current minister I don't pose a physical risk to them


  • #139
    Zulu
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    laoch na mona wrote: »
    hostile in the way...
    And around the merry wheel we go:
    "You seem to be implying that ordinary people doing their jobs should risk the difference. Which, frankly, is idiotic in the extreme."


  • #140
    end of the road
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    Cleeo wrote: »
    This is actually only one of 2 topics that I will saddle up on that high horse of mine, and ride it into the sunset. I don't give a flying fart if it's harmless.
    get over it. she was stopped, no problem there, it didn't effect you and even if it did, no biggy.
    Cleeo wrote: »
    The law is the law, sonny boy!
    and its there to be broken, as long as its nothing serious, which sending a quick text while being held up isn't.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #141
    cruiser178
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    I'm not painting everyone with the same brush, I'm dealing in realities. And the reality is that these Guards, who would likely be familiar with the halting site, decided that it would be in their best interests to execute the warrant in this way. Their reason for doing so is as clear as day to most of us.


    You wouldn't know reality if it jumped up and bit you on the arse. The reality is, 6 men called to a womans home (where she has a young child in bed) at 3 in the morning (which is illegal) trying to bring her to prison for a 250 unpaid fine. they must have being really busy that night musn't they. 6 men calling to a womans home, they should be ashamed of themselves.


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  • #142
    cruiser178
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    Zulu wrote: »
    ...and women can't be dangerous. :rolleyes:


    :rolleyes:


  • #143
    Zulu
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    cruiser178 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    You don't hide your bigotry too well.


  • #144
    cruiser178
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    Zulu wrote: »
    You don't hide your bigotry too well.
    your post was just too stupid to give an ans to


  • #145
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    What? If I were confronted by a violent woman I would sh1t myself! Of course women can be violent - how is it "stupid" to say that...? :confused:

    On the surface it appears dodgy - six men calling to a house in the middle of the night (I really can't see the logic of the time they called) but you're not bothering to scratch the surface or consider there may have been reasons for this.


  • #146
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    You wouldn't know reality if it jumped up and bit you on the arse. The reality is, 6 men called to a womans home (where she has a young child in bed) at 3 in the morning (which is illegal) trying to bring her to prison for a 250 unpaid fine. they must have being really busy that night musn't they. 6 men calling to a womans home, they should be ashamed of themselves.
    3am isn't illegal.

    And why are you being sexist about it? Should they have sent 6 women Gardai instead? What does it matter that she had a young child in bed?


  • #147
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    Zulu wrote: »
    And around the merry wheel we go:
    "You seem to be implying that ordinary people doing their jobs should risk the difference. Which, frankly, is idiotic in the extreme."

    no im saying you cant judge a traveler based on being a traveler
    I know guards who have gone in to halting sites alone or in pairs they had no trouble just were not made fell welcome is all


  • #148
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    seamus wrote: »
    What does it matter that she had a young child in bed?

    Ah in fairness, why wake people at that hour? It's bad manners for starters.
    laoch na mona wrote: »
    no im saying you cant judge a traveler based on being a traveler
    I know guards who have gone in to halting sites alone or in pairs they had no trouble just were not made fell welcome is all
    Jeez...

    It's been made clear this site has a reputation, travellers or not. The woman is known to the guards. It's not simply due to her being a traveller. Why must you ignore these important points?


  • #149
    cruiser178
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    Madam_X wrote: »
    What? If I were confronted by a violent woman I would sh1t myself!

    On the surface it appears dodgy - six men calling to a house in the middle of the night (I really can't see the logic of the time they called) but you're not bothering to scratch the surface or consider there may have been reasons for this.


    Gaurds call to haulting sites the whole time with warrants and what ever, they dont call in there 6's during the day time so why at 3 in the morning? I'll tell you why, because they had nothing else to do. They knew what they were doing was illegal so It was pure intimidation.


  • #150
    MagicMarker
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    cruiser178 wrote: »
    You wouldn't know reality if it jumped up and bit you on the arse. The reality is, 6 men called to a womans home (where she has a young child in bed) at 3 in the morning (which is illegal) trying to bring her to prison for a 250 unpaid fine. they must have being really busy that night musn't they. 6 men calling to a womans home, they should be ashamed of themselves.

    Was this a woman only halting site or something? I don't see the relevance of her being a woman tbh.


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  • #151
    seamus
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Ah in fairness, why wake people at that hour? It's bad manners for starters.
    It's a three month old, it could be sleeping at any time of the day to be fair.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that they were well aware that their 3:30am call would require explanations in court, so I doubt they just thought, "Hey look, there's a warrant here for her, let's go give her hassle for the craic". :)


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