Garda Sergeant can't afford food

snubbleste · 10-12-2012 03:41PM

Anyone seen an update on this story?
Are there still "we only eat cornflakes all day" days?

Boombastic · 10-12-2012 03:46PM

snubbleste wrote: »

Anyone seen an update on this story?
Are there still "we only eat cornflakes all day" days?

No, perhaps they have starved to death?

LivelineDipso · 10-12-2012 03:49PM

If you eat cornflake everyday you will die in about a month.

Death and Taxes · 10-12-2012 04:01PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

If you eat cornflake everyday you will die in about a month.

They're ok now, they switched to weetabix

Wanderer2010 · 10-12-2012 04:03PM

Wasnt there another story about a woman who "woke to find only 2 slices of bread in the whole house" and she couldnt feed her 3 kids so 2 of them had to go hungry? Now I dont want to say thats a lie because who knows, it could very well be true but there has been an increase in people ringing up radio shows to complain about having zero food etc, im sure a lot of them are just out to scam the decent people who almost always ring up to offer food, clothing etc!

Bread is so cheap nowadays and you have the charities with food parcels etc its hard to believe a lot of these tales..

rsole1 · 10-12-2012 04:22PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Wasnt there another story about a woman who "woke to find only 2 slices of bread in the whole house" and she couldnt feed her 3 kids so 2 of them had to go hungry? Now I dont want to say thats a lie because who knows, it could very well be true but there has been an increase in people ringing up radio shows to complain about having zero food etc, im sure a lot of them are just out to scam the decent people who almost always ring up to offer food, clothing etc!

Bread is so cheap nowadays and you have the charities with food parcels etc its hard to believe a lot of these tales..

We have just had a soup kitchen open up in Roscommon, and a lot of their "customers" who avail of free food can be seen outside certain pubs taking a smoke break between pints.

gallag · 10-12-2012 04:32PM

Anyone in the UK or Ireland that truly believe they are in poverty should try a spell in a truly poor country.

If you have sky tv you are not in poverty.
If you have a tv you are not in poverty.
If you earn €60,000 you are not in poverty.
Have a mobile phone? Not in poverty.
Turn a tap and water comes out? No poverty their.
Walk six miles to get a bucket of dirty water that might cause blindness? You might be in poverty
One of the 2,500 mothers that are going to watch your child die in your arms today due to drought? Deffo poverty.

Death and Taxes · 10-12-2012 04:43PM

gallag wrote: »

Anyone in the UK or Ireland that truly believe they are in poverty should try a spell in a truly poor country.

If you have sky tv you are not in poverty.
If you have a tv you are not in poverty.
If you earn €60,000 you are not in poverty.
Have a mobile phone? Not in poverty.
Turn a tap and water comes out? No poverty their.
Walk six miles to get a bucket of dirty water that might cause blindness? You might be in poverty
One of the 2,500 mothers that are going to watch your child die in your arms today due to drought? Deffo poverty.

Me Hole,!
All things are relative if you cant afford a tv in Ireland then yes laddie, you are in fúcking poverty.

Reloc8 · 10-12-2012 04:46PM

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Wasnt there another story about a woman who "woke to find only 2 slices of bread in the whole house" and she couldnt feed her 3 kids so 2 of them had to go hungry? Now I dont want to say thats a lie because who knows, it could very well be true but there has been an increase in people ringing up radio shows to complain about having zero food etc, im sure a lot of them are just out to scam the decent people who almost always ring up to offer food, clothing etc!

Bread is so cheap nowadays and you have the charities with food parcels etc its hard to believe a lot of these tales..

To me that particular story is only believable if :-

1. There are serious addiction problems in the house, drink or drugs, or

2. There are significant mental health issues in the house, or

3. The parents have, unbelievably, prioritised servicing bank or credit union debt over the bare essentials necessary for life, which amounts to a mental block if not disorder, and

4. One or more of the foregoing applies and the parents have also been unable to access help and services available from a wide variety of sources.

All of the foregoing is based on what that woman said, which includes that there is income coming into the house on her own account.

If points 1 and/or 2 are in fact present then that is certainly very sad and requires to be addressed sooner rather than later for the welfare of the children and their parents. But the situation has not been caused by the tough times in which we live.

If 1 or 2 are not in fact present and this story represents the full truth of the circumstances in the house then I seriously question the fitness of those parents to look after their children.

On balance I am inclined to believe there has either been exaggeration on her part, or something else very important to the story has not been said.

Conmaicne Mara · 10-12-2012 04:49PM

gallag wrote: »

Anyone in the UK or Ireland that truly believe they are in poverty should try a spell in a truly poor country.

Tell you what, you go on ahead there and the rest of us will follow in a week or so when we find out what happens in Love/Hate.

snubbleste · 10-12-2012 04:51PM

So how do I find out what happened? Especially post-budget with the €10 per child decrease in child benefit, the rise in student registration charges, motor tax rises....
Surely the Irish Times realise the public interest in this story and do an update, if anything this family with €60k income are now on the verge of homelessness?

LivelineDipso · 10-12-2012 04:52PM

Reloc8 wrote: »

To me that particular story is only believable if :-

On balance I am inclined to believe there has either been exaggeration on her part, or something else very important to the story has not been said.

Could it be the cop is about to be done for eh, a bit of extra income?

Reloc8 · 10-12-2012 04:55PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Could it be the cop is about to be done for eh, a bit of extra income?

Well, I was talking about somebody else's account of the dire straits they're in I have no idea what anyone's circumstances are except what they claim them to be themselves.

snubbleste · 13-02-2013 05:01PM

This Garda sergeant lives within walking distance of his workplace and walks to work or as he says
"I often walk to work because I can't afford to put petrol in the car,"
but wait he's got kids going to private schools costing €24k per annum
"Two of my children are in private schools and one is at third level. I have to be earning €24,000 for schooling and another €30,000 for the mortgage. If these cuts happen, I'll definitely sink." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-workers-fear-10pc-cuts-will-sink-them-29066724.html

What's he not saying?

kylith · 13-02-2013 05:16PM

snubbleste wrote: »

This Garda sergeant lives within walking distance of his workplace and walks to work or as he says
"I often walk to work because I can't afford to put petrol in the car,"
but wait he's got kids going to private schools costing €24k per annum
"Two of my children are in private schools and one is at third level. I have to be earning €24,000 for schooling and another €30,000 for the mortgage. If these cuts happen, I'll definitely sink." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-workers-fear-10pc-cuts-will-sink-them-29066724.html

What's he not saying?

That he should put his children in state education if having them in private is sending him to the poorhouse.

Stheno · 13-02-2013 05:22PM

snubbleste wrote: »

This Garda sergeant lives within walking distance of his workplace and walks to work or as he says
"I often walk to work because I can't afford to put petrol in the car,"
but wait he's got kids going to private schools costing €24k per annum
"Two of my children are in private schools and one is at third level. I have to be earning €24,000 for schooling and another €30,000 for the mortgage. If these cuts happen, I'll definitely sink." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-workers-fear-10pc-cuts-will-sink-them-29066724.html

What's he not saying?

I suspect he is using gross earnings and not net there, so after tax he needs 15k for the mortgage (1250 per month) and 12k per year (1k per month) for private schools and college fees/costs.

tayto lover · 13-02-2013 05:30PM

snubbleste wrote: »

This Garda sergeant lives within walking distance of his workplace and walks to work or as he says
"I often walk to work because I can't afford to put petrol in the car,"
but wait he's got kids going to private schools costing €24k per annum
"Two of my children are in private schools and one is at third level. I have to be earning €24,000 for schooling and another €30,000 for the mortgage. If these cuts happen, I'll definitely sink." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-workers-fear-10pc-cuts-will-sink-them-29066724.html

What's he not saying?

That whole story smells of media bullsh1t to be honest.
I cannot see any Garda coming out and stating that as fact or their Union/Rep body also stating it. It seems like media/Govt propaganda to me. Up to their old divide and conquer tricks again i'd say.

snubbleste · 13-02-2013 05:38PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That whole story smells of media bullsh1t to be honest. I cannot see any Garda coming out and stating that as fact or their Union/Rep body also stating it. It seems like media/Govt propaganda to me. Up to their old divide and conquer tricks again i'd say.

The article quotes the sergeant by name

Boombastic · 13-02-2013 06:19PM

He should ask for financial advice off Padraig Flynn, I understand he had similar problems

Bloody*Mary · 13-02-2013 06:38PM

Boombastic wrote: »

He should ask for financial advice off Padraig Flynn, I understand he had similar problems

Lot of people overextended themselves during the boom.

I don't have to name names.

When ordinary citizens get involved in multi-million projects, it can only end badly.

How the fcuk can a nation of around five million run up so much bad deals?

Like a punter heading for the racecourse and slapping the total mortgage on #6!

Would the bookie not look for collateral?

And then expecting to be bailed out if the nag loses!

Look! People got greedy, punters got sucked in, easy money,based their outgoings on overtime and expenses.

you can't expect others to bail you out if you bet on the future.

Things change, Schmidt happens, don't expect the taxpayer to bail out a bad punt.

kneeler · 13-02-2013 06:40PM

Guards are very greedy nowadays. They are always putting on the poor mouth. That is probably because their families were in farming.

Boombastic · 13-02-2013 06:45PM

Bloody*Mary wrote: »

Lot of people overextended themselves during the boom.

I don't have to name names.

When ordinary citizens get involved in multi-million projects, it can only end badly.

How the fcuk can a nation of around five million run up so much bad deals?

Like a punter heading for the racecourse and slapping the total mortgage on #6!

Would the bookie not look for collateral?

And then expecting to be bailed out if the nag loses!

Look! People got greedy, punters got sucked in, easy money,based their outgoings on overtime and expenses.

you can't expect others to bail you out if you bet on the future.

Things change, Schmidt happens, don't expect the taxpayer to bail out a bad punt.

What?

bigroad · 13-02-2013 06:49PM

kneeler wrote: »

Guards are very greedy nowadays. They are always putting on the poor mouth. That is probably because their families were in farming.

Well said and also very true.

TwoShedsJackson · 13-02-2013 06:50PM

kneeler wrote: »

Guards are very greedy nowadays. They are always putting on the poor mouth. That is probably because their families were in farming.

Three generalisations in three sentences, impressive.

dvpower · 13-02-2013 06:58PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That whole story smells of media bullsh1t to be honest.
I cannot see any Garda coming out and stating that as fact or their Union/Rep body also stating it. It seems like media/Govt propaganda to me. Up to their old divide and conquer tricks again i'd say.

You think the Indo made this story up including a direct quote from a member of the AGSI executive?
What do you think was the Government involvement in this fantastical ruse?

Bloody*Mary · 13-02-2013 07:04PM

Boombastic wrote: »

What?

So you have no view on the post contents?

HondaSami · 13-02-2013 07:08PM

kneeler wrote: »

Guards are very greedy nowadays. They are always putting on the poor mouth. That is probably because their families were in farming.

All 14500 of them? that's a lot of farming families.

Boombastic · 13-02-2013 07:31PM

Bloody*Mary wrote: »

So you have no view on the post contents?

Did the Garda get involved in multi million euro deals. Then spend a day at the races losing money and now expects the taxpayer to bail them out?

I'm confused

jam_mac_jam · 13-02-2013 07:58PM

snubbleste wrote: »

This Garda sergeant lives within walking distance of his workplace and walks to work or as he says
"I often walk to work because I can't afford to put petrol in the car,"
but wait he's got kids going to private schools costing €24k per annum
"Two of my children are in private schools and one is at third level. I have to be earning €24,000 for schooling and another €30,000 for the mortgage. If these cuts happen, I'll definitely sink." http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-workers-fear-10pc-cuts-will-sink-them-29066724.html

What's he not saying?

Is this a joke? 24k for schools.How can somebody that stupid get out of the house never mind be working...

jam_mac_jam · 13-02-2013 08:00PM

Boombastic wrote: »

Did the Garda get involved in multi million euro deals. Then spend a day at the races losing money and now expects the taxpayer to bail them out?

I'm confused

Well that Garda did if he is spending 30k on a mortgage. He must be an idiot.

Garda Sergeant can't afford food

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