Patrick Hyland vs Javier Fortuna

Aazoth · 15-11-2012 12:07AM #1

Patrick Hyland vs Javier Fortuna for the interim WBA World featherweight title.
Not hearing much about this?? What are peoples thoughts on it??

I see him getting stopped myself, but it would be great if he pulled it off!!

Underground · 15-11-2012 03:39PM

Wow, he's actually fighting a legitimate, ranked contender this time.
Stoppage win for Fortuna I reckon.

Henno30 · 15-11-2012 07:41PM

On the Pac-Marquez undercard too.

Dick phelan · 15-11-2012 08:46PM

Henno30 wrote: »

On the Pac-Marquez undercard too.

Wow thats a big jump in both quality of opponent and exposure tbh i see him loseing ths one however who knows he hasnt fought any top fighters so maybe he can raise his game when in a fight like this anyways hope he wins but i wont get my hopes up

Clubman2012 · 16-11-2012 03:46PM

As an Irishman I hope he does ok, but its impossible to see Hyland getting any sort of result here. Or it even being close.

crackit · 07-12-2012 03:28AM

He's going to pay the price for not having fought a genuinely live opponent for his entire career.

That a 10 year past his peak and 37 year old Archuleta and a 34 year old Lucero who had lost 5 of his last 7, and 4 on the bounce since, are the highlights of a 27 fight, 8 year career sums it all up.

He's not a contender. He's a sacrificial lamb and he's going to get smashed to pieces. And despite him being Irish and having the tendency to root for my own I actually don't care. He should have rolled the dice long ago but he hadn't the guts to actually do it.

magma69 · 07-12-2012 11:31AM

crackit wrote: »

He's going to pay the price for not having fought a genuinely live opponent for his entire career.

That a 10 year past his peak and 37 year old Archuleta and a 34 year old Lucero who had lost 5 of his last 7, and 4 on the bounce since, are the highlights of a 27 fight, 8 year career sums it all up.

He's not a contender. He's a sacrificial lamb and he's going to get smashed to pieces. And despite him being Irish and having the tendency to root for my own I actually don't care. He should have rolled the dice long ago but he hadn't the guts to actually do it.

Hard to argue with most of that except the last two sentences. Has Pajo refused big fights in the past or something? I've been a critic of his standard of opponents but thought it was mostly down to poor promotion. Unlike yourself, I'll definitely be cheering him on Saturday.

crackit · 07-12-2012 04:35PM

He's not a genuine contender though. He has just taken cosy little nothing fights against nobodies his entire career. I'd be critical of any boxer from any country doing that so it would be hypocritical of me to sing a different tune just because there is an Irishman involved.

If he'd wanted better fights he could have genuinely gone on the road a la Magee. You don't need massive promotion to put your hand up to go on the road and fight better calibre opponents. His idea of going on the road was a jaunt to america to fight a 10-28-2 Mexican petrol pump attendant. Also he's only fought three times in the UK. Loads of good opportunities to improve over there.

That he's fighting in such a high profile card for a decent interim title and it's only warranted 6 replies on an Irish message board says it all for me really. I don't begrudge anyone following him. He's just done nothing to deserve what he's got.

endswell · 07-12-2012 08:12PM

crackit wrote: »

That he's fighting in such a high profile card for a decent interim title and it's only warranted 6 replies on an Irish message board says it all for me really. I don't begrudge anyone following him. He's just done nothing to deserve what he's got.

good point. here is a bit on fortuna (http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=494223&cat=boxer) so:

TKO in 2nd - 10.18 - even if Cruz is average, it's good. see also 6.00, shouldnt have counted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dhGwir27o

TKO 1st vs Evans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1MmjzlU6B0

here's hyland vs frankie archuleta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NL0BvAF6yA

just watched 2 rounds, even that miss at 21.41, just a lazy/slow left-right, he would be hammered with Fortuna's left.

2 different styles here, one quick one not. but still hopes PH makes a good showing.

gene_tunney · 07-12-2012 09:10PM

Hyland will be subject to a beating.

endswell · 07-12-2012 09:46PM

gene_tunney wrote: »

Hyland will be subject to a beating.

hope im wrong but cant even see it going that far. couple hard body shots and its curtains. rigo casey etc.

Underground · 08-12-2012 12:53AM

endswell wrote: »

hope im wrong but cant even see it going that far. couple hard body shots and its curtains. rigo casey etc.

That's what I was thinking myself. Fortuna looks far too slick/powerful for Hyand.

bellybuster12 · 08-12-2012 02:35AM

The market says it all really. Fortuna best price 1/14. Hyland best price 9/1. The round betting will be best value, Fortuna is 11/2(rd1) 11/2(rd2) and 6/1(rd3). Seeing as I can't see this going past the 3rd round I might just do these individually or rounds 1-3 is 7/4.

crackit · 08-12-2012 03:56AM

bellybuster12 wrote: »

The market says it all really. Fortuna best price 1/14. Hyland best price 9/1. The round betting will be best value, Fortuna is 11/2(rd1) 11/2(rd2) and 6/1(rd3). Seeing as I can't see this going past the 3rd round I might just do these individually or rounds 1-3 is 7/4.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I think I might pile into round 2 and 3 though. I can see Fortuna eyeing him up for a round then blasting him out of there.

walshb · 08-12-2012 10:01AM

Finally Pajo fights a live boxer. Hope he does well. Can't see him winning here. Fortuna is an explosive and talented fighter. He should have too much in the arsenal for Hyland.

barney4001 · 08-12-2012 11:00AM

walshb wrote: »

Finally Pajo fights a live boxer. Hope he does well. Can't see him winning here. Fortuna is an explosive and talented fighter. He should have too much in the arsenal for Hyland.

Hard to give Hyland a hope here, but good luck to him

alanceltic · 08-12-2012 04:36PM

Mixed feelings about this one. Bit of a shocker that what should be a high profile fight is very much under the radar. Whatever about the quality of Hyland I fear that his inexperience at this level more than anything will leave him wanting. At some stage he had to make a step up but this is a MASSIVE step up from anything even close to where he has competed before.

Wild_Dogger · 08-12-2012 05:14PM

Wild_Dogger · 08-12-2012 05:15PM

Heated weigh in .........

Here we go

endswell · 08-12-2012 07:21PM

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

Heated weigh in .........

Here we go

bit of an odd job that fortuna i think

alanceltic · 08-12-2012 10:10PM

Hyland looks in great nick!!!!!

coronaextra · 09-12-2012 01:14AM

Lads what time are we talking about for this fight? will I be able to get an hours kip in?

gene_tunney · 09-12-2012 03:12AM

First round down. Lots of posturing by Fortuna, Hyland throwing ineffective punches coming up well short. Fortuna looks quick and dangerous. Will probbaly catch Hyland soon and it'll probably be a looping left.

bigron2109 · 09-12-2012 03:17AM

First two rounds to Fortuna. Fortuna is dedicating the pace and hitting some body shots.

gene_tunney · 09-12-2012 03:20AM

Fortuna spent the 3rd round fighting EXACTLY like Sergio Martinez. They have the same trainer so he's obviously trying to copy Maravilla. Hyland showing a decent beard.

bigron2109 · 09-12-2012 03:24AM

Hotting up at the end of round 4. So far its all been Fortuna for me.

le la rat · 09-12-2012 03:26AM

bigron2109 wrote: »

Hotting up at the end of round 4. So far its all been Fortuna for me.

He looks fairly decent

bigron2109 · 09-12-2012 03:28AM

le la rat wrote: »

He looks fairly decent

He looks explosive, and at any time, he looks like he is ready to explode with some combinations and Knock Hyland out. Hyland needs to loosen up at the moment.

gene_tunney · 09-12-2012 03:28AM

Annoying Primetime promoter asks McCullough if Fortuna's style is reminiscent of anyone....McCullough fails to mention Martinez. Does he even watch boxing?

getuponthis · 09-12-2012 03:33AM

Hyland has a good chin and good defence but doesn't really offer much going forward. fortuna will take this on points I reckon

gene_tunney · 09-12-2012 03:35AM

Hyland getting to Fortuna a bit. Fortuna can't keep him off with his feather fists....wouldn't be surprised if Hyland wears him down.

Patrick Hyland vs Javier Fortuna

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