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Black ice everywhere

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  • #32
    Lumen
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    Rasmus wrote: »
    Care to explain why you think that?

    Cycling is not dangerous. A child carried on a bike is therefore not in any danger.


  • #33
    MB Lacey
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    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    glad I only read this now.. I went along there at my usual pace about 8.30 but didnt see anything..

    ignorance is bliss..

    Likewise, I cycled from Drimnagh to UCD (Crumlin Rd, canal, Ranelagh, Clonskeagh) no trouble.

    Any tips and tricks for cycling in these conditions? Apart from take the bus, car :rolleyes:


  • #34
    Rasmus
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    Lumen wrote: »
    Cycling is not dangerous. A child carried on a bike is therefore not in any danger.

    Now that is just silly logic.


  • #35
    Lumen
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    Rasmus wrote: »
    Now that is just silly logic.

    The logic is perfect. You may disagree with the assumptions.


  • #36
    MB Lacey
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    pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaassseee - no helmet arguments again.
    this could be a useful thread on black ice areas for commuters


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  • #37
    Rasmus
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    MB Lacey wrote: »
    pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaassseee - no helmet arguments again.
    this could be a useful thread on black ice areas for commuters

    No problem. I didn't know folks thought it was ok for kids to not wear helmets.


  • #38
    Lusk Doyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Dermot Illogical wrote: »

    I hope so, and yes. :D

    Typical f'n malahider!


  • #39
    Lumen
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    Had no issues cycling in from Clonsilla-Castleknock-Phoenix Park-Dublin centre this morning around 08.15, running 23mm Conti GP4000S@100psi.

    Since my skillz are not mad, I'm guessing guess conditions vary considerably and there isn't black ice everywhere.

    Also, Dublin is not Ireland.


  • #40
    dubmess
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    MB Lacey wrote: »
    Likewise, I cycled from Drimnagh to UCD (Crumlin Rd, canal, Ranelagh, Clonskeagh) no trouble.

    Any tips and tricks for cycling in these conditions? Apart from take the bus, car :rolleyes:

    I came down the Crumlin Road today at 9.30 and it was still icy in the cycle lane. Pretty sketchy in a couple of places, was very glad when the two 18 wheelers had to turn off before the canal as I was not feeling the safest trundling along beside them with varying degrees of grip.

    No gritting apparent at any point between Crumlin Road until I got to Christchurch, I had also seen gritting a few times earlier in the year when it seemed unneeded, was cursing the corpo this morning as I came in.

    Tips for cycling in the ice, don't turn, don't use your brakes, I actually find riding my fixed gear good in slippy conditions as you can really feel the back wheel move under you and modulate your braking using your legs. (with front brake!)


  • #41
    ROK ON
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    Ditto D15.
    Cycled thru the Park at 650 this morning.
    Not as cold as I though. Plenty of frost but I did not come across any black ice.
    Stayed on the road as opposed to bike path as road was more used.
    Took it handy at roundabouts.
    Had new GP4000s pumped 120 at rear and 110 front.

    (hopefully I haven't jinxed the rest of my commutes now).


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  • #42
    Planet X
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    120?????


  • #43
    Lusk Doyle
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    Planet X wrote: »
    120?????

    What's the problem?


  • #44
    Planet X
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    There isn't a problem.


  • #45
    ROK ON
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    Planet X wrote: »
    120?????

    As you should know, there is a lot of downward pressure exerted on my rear tyre - I'm terrified of getting pinch flats ;-)


  • #46
    CramCycle
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    Left this morning, seemed fine till exiting the estate, where I proceded to glide onto the main road before I found traction. Luckily unclipped and got ready for a fall that never occured. The rest of the trip was fine until I got to work, took it handy though.


  • #47
    monkeybutter
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    Lumen wrote: »
    Cycling is not dangerous. A child carried on a bike is therefore not in any danger.


    Is cycling on potentially icy roads dangerous?

    The fact you didn't encounter any black ice isn't skill, thats why you don't need them.

    It's called black ice as it's so hard to see it in the first place.


  • #48
    Lumen
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    monkeybutter wrote: »
    Is cycling on potentially icy roads dangerous?

    The fact you didn't encounter any black ice isn't skill, thats why you don't need them.

    It's called black ice as it's so hard to see it in the first place.

    I have commuted through the last four winters (including the two brutal ones) without once falling off my bike due to ice. It's really not that hard.


  • #49
    monkeybutter
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I have commuted through the last four winters (including the two brutal ones) without once falling off my bike due to ice. It's really not that hard.

    With a helmet on?


  • #50
    cdaly_
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    dubmess wrote: »
    I came down the Crumlin Road today at 9.30 and it was still icy in the cycle lane. Pretty sketchy in a couple of places, was very glad when the two 18 wheelers had to turn off before the canal as I was not feeling the safest trundling along beside them with varying degrees of grip.

    I would have said behind them was the appropriate place to trundle along this morning...


  • #51
    monkeybutter
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    have you ever fallen off in general?

    I have been commuting for 10 years, I have only ever come off once, that's on ice, and it was bone dry that day, far better than today, someone had just emptied a bucket or slopped out across the road and I didn't see it in the dark until it was too late, as it was clear on black.

    Did I make a mistake or was it just luck? 50/50? Am I going to make a mistake every 50,000k or so? Yes. So it isn't hard to be safe, but it's not possible to be 100% safe, no matter how many skillz you have or I don't.


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  • #52
    del88
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    Told my girlfriend I NEED a mountain bike for safety reasons....one of these will do..www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3008


  • #53
    dubmess
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    cdaly_ wrote: »
    I would have said behind them was the appropriate place to trundle along this morning...

    I like to live dangerously and put my faith in cycle lane markings


  • #54
    kenmc
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I have commuted through the last four winters (including the two brutal ones) without once falling off my bike due to ice. It's really not that hard.
    monkeybutter wrote: »
    With a helmet on?
    What difference? He didn't fall off either with a helmet on, or without a helmet on, both mean that he didn't fall off. If he didn't fall off whilst wearing a helmet, it didn't do anything to save his head. Likewise, if he didn't fall off whilst NOT wearing a helmet, then likewise not wearing a helmet didn't not save his life...

    :rolleyes:


  • #55
    MB Lacey
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    Lumen wrote: »
    I have commuted through the last four winters (including the two brutal ones) without once falling off my bike due to ice. It's really not that hard.

    how? I'd love to commute the whole winter, but the thought of skidding on ice scares me - so how did you avoid falling?
    type of bike/ tyres/ skillz/ route?
    I'm on a hybrid, 10k commute each way, 32 panaracer tyres, 39 year old human bones - don't want any accidents, any tips to avoid appreciated.


  • #56
    Lumen
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    My point was really just that I care about bicycle safety about as much as I care about the safety of kitchen utensils or toilet brushes.

    It's a total non-issue, in my experience.

    My first thought this morning was "-2 degrees and thick frost, w00t!, time for some skids", not "oh crap I'm not going to make it to work alive".


  • #57
    monkeybutter
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    kenmc wrote: »
    What difference? He didn't fall off either with a helmet on, or without a helmet on, both mean that he didn't fall off. If he didn't fall off whilst wearing a helmet, it didn't do anything to save his head. Likewise, if he didn't fall off whilst NOT wearing a helmet, then likewise not wearing a helmet didn't not save his life...

    :rolleyes:

    Nah I'm interested in if someone who is commuting for this length of time is choosing to use a helmet or not, non helmet wearing cycling geeks are as rare as hens teeth.

    It's pretty much just hipsters and scobes left at this stage.


  • #58
    monkeybutter
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    Lumen wrote: »
    My point was really just that I care about bicycle safety about as much as I care about the safety of kitchen utensils or toilet brushes.

    It's a total non-issue, in my experience.

    My first thought this morning was "-2 degrees and thick frost, w00t!, time for some skids", not "oh crap I'm not going to make it to work alive".


    Is that why you bought them spiked tyres then, oh wait did you commute the last 4 years on spiked tyres?


  • #59
    Lumen
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    MB Lacey wrote: »
    how? I'd love to commute the whole winter, but the thought of skidding on ice scares me - so how did you avoid falling?
    type of bike/ tyres/ skillz/ route?
    I'm on a hybrid, 10k commute each way, 32 panaracer tyres, 39 year old human bones - don't want any accidents, any tips to avoid appreciated.

    Otherwise I just go slower, favour the back brake over the front, don't turn and brake at the same time.

    Black ice tends to accumulate in the shadows under trees, but can be avoided if you have a choice over road position (i.e. not cycling in a group).

    Saying all this I'll probably crash going home.
    monkeybutter wrote: »
    Is that why you bought them spiked tyres then, oh wait did you commute the last 4 years on spiked tyres?

    When it gets really icy I tend to use studded tyres (Marathon Winter), but only so that I can keep up a decent speed.


  • #60
    MB Lacey
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    I found this old home video of Lumen as young boy



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  • #61
    souter
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    dubmess wrote: »

    Tips for cycling in the ice, don't turn, don't use your brakes, I actually find riding my fixed gear good in slippy conditions as you can really feel the back wheel move under you and modulate your braking using your legs. (with front brake!)

    ??? I'm a fixie too but I'd never use the front brake on ice - I had a tiny skid today but handled no problem because it was the back. Front wheel and it's goodnight Vienna.

    Or am I missing something?


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