Farming Chit Chat

bogman_bass wrote: »

the fact of the mater is that he got over €1000 each for calves between 11 and 9 months old. Price per kilo is irrelivent to a certain degree IMO. its the size of the cheque in your arse pocket minus your costs that matters. weather thats through higher weight or higher price per kilo doesnt matter one bit

Can anyone give a guess as to how many euros of meal those calves have eaten?

tismesoitis wrote: »

U have no idea!!!! they have eaten +or- 70 euro worth of meal....not overfed!! maybe there would be more market options at €400kgs BUT the PROFIT would be less!!!!!

Lol I sense I have touched a nerve!!


If you sold these animals at 2.70 a kilo (which was/is well achievable for a weanling in the 350 to 400 kg range) you would receive 1080 now add your costs of keeping them the extra 8 weeks plus account for manpower and shed space/land utilised.

My opinion but I think you would be better off.

adne wrote: »

Lol I sense I have touched a nerve!!


If you sold these animals at 2.70 a kilo (which was/is well achievable for a weanling in the 350 to 400 kg range) you would receive 1080 now add your costs of keeping them the extra 8 weeks plus account for manpower and shed space/land utilised.

My opinion but I think you would be better off.

No nerve touched at all but just to repeat myself...
Do U not understand what i mean when i say these cattle were leaving a profit of at least €2 per day at the time of sale and also when i say no animal not even the best blues at 350kgs were making 2.70 per kg. All i'l say is its ur opinion but it really makes no sense to me. As i was saying earlier i think with these not so shapey borderline shipping weanlings the heavier the better!!

tismesoitis wrote: »

No nerve touched at all but just to repeat myself...
Do U not understand what i mean when i say these cattle were leaving a profit of at least €2 per day at the time of sale and also when i say no animal not even the best blues at 350kgs were making 2.70 per kg. All i'l say is its ur opinion but it really makes no sense to me. As i was saying earlier i think with these not so shapey borderline shipping weanlings the heavier the better!!

Oh yes I understand what your saying, but that is where i disagree. If that was your mind set why not hold them another month and then based on your logic they would leave more profit :P

You see based on that logic if you sold them 8 weeks earlier you could boast that these weanlings were leaving €3 per day!!!

My theory accounts for time be that days/months but in the same vein as selling shares a seller needs to know the optimum time to cash in and that is in my opinion something you don't understand.

adne wrote: »

Oh yes I understand what your saying, but that is where i disagree. If that was your mind set why not hold them another month and then based on your logic they would leave more profit :P

You see based on that logic if you sold them 8 weeks earlier you could boast that these weanlings were leaving €3 per day!!!

My theory accounts for time be that days/months but in the same vein as selling shares a seller needs to know the optimum time to cash in and that is in my opinion something you don't understand.

FFS.....

tismesoitis wrote: »

Well lads and lassies. in carnaross last night and tbh not a great night at d office at all!! was hoping for 2.40 -2.50 avg ended up just over 2.25:(.cattle weighed well the same. 1st lad stq bb born 27.12.11 520 kgs €1200 next lry pt born 22.2.12( was at ploughing) 445kgs €1075. 3rd lad lry pt born 27.2.12 460kgs €1060. 4th lad kyr bb born 10.1.12 490kgs €1075 and finally a poor lim x by stock bull we were thinking of keeping as teaser 440kgs €920.
overall a poor sale guy from tlt (garravalli) only going as far as 2.50 on the very best of bb cattle juniors reiligs and leg's type of stock.

Sounds like there was only the one buyer there interested. That seems to be an issue with specialist stock.

Out of interest whilst they made weights I'm still currently only dreaming of, do you think they're back a bit because of the bad year?

I'm guessing like reilig, you've a lot of meal put into them which takes the shine off the >€1,000/hd

leg wax wrote: »

i would like to thank pat for the above post as he got there before me , tis has put up his cattle here after i asked him to do and his prices and has told everyone his feeding rates and thought process in doing so,everyone has their own way of doing things and this is tis;s way ,adne can you put up some pics up of your stock with the weights and prices and we can see your point.

Can't put up pics as I sold all weanlings in early sept. next year hopefully.
Aside from that I'm not picking holes, as I stated these are good prices and fair play tismosoitis, I merely expressing my views and giving suggestions IMO how these can be improved upon, after all I thought this was a forum to share ones views.

After all we live in a progressive world, no one can rest on their laurels.

just do it wrote: »

As others have said I really appreciate the pics and details of your cattle sold. It's not often you get the whole lot together including the breeding.

I'm interested that you're breeding these cows to BB. Are you hoping for breeding heifers out of them, rather than breeding them to produce export quality weanlings? I bought a few FRx cows this year (LMx2 and AAx2) and I'm thinking of giving them a CH to produce weanlings for the Irish market is the best choice.

ye just do it learning as i go none of these cows will be getting bb again especially the simmentals. all back incalf to part or lim for replacements. sticking bb on cows with at least 2 generation beef breeding in them in other words daughters of these ladies.