Seriously worried ...

Manny Pacquiao · 03-11-2012 8:25pm

Scioch wrote: »

He's just jealous because he's doing nothing and would love to be down the pub fiddling on his phone. Same old story, trying to find something wrong with whatever everyone else is doing so they dont have to do anything themselves.

Yes, I criticize someone for being on Boards.ie in the pub because I'm jealous of them and that makes absolute sense!

That must apply to you too, then, because you're on here too and must have nothing to do, apparently, seeing you are now finding faults with me. Don't be so self-loathing - if you don't love yourself, then no-one will.

I was in the pub earlier watching the football matches. Didn't log-on to Boards.ie, though, because I have friends on Facebook I rather chat to.

Andy-Pandy · 03-11-2012 8:27pm

If your a fun, free thinking, glass-half full person you'll be grand. I dont have a penny, but at the weekend i head to the incredible Irish country side for a hike or cycle my bike, it's amazing. I have no problems going out and having a great time while meeting great people on a very small budget. There is always something good to do for cheap in Dublin, any night of the week, you just gotta not be a miserable d1ck and the type of person people like.

Most of the people on here giving out sh1te about the country would probably be grumpy ****er's anywhere that they lived.

Lia_lia · 03-11-2012 8:52pm

Expect a lot less holidays from work anyway! They always seem to have time off in France. Depends what you're doing I guess. Health system is pretty crappy here too compared to France. If I ever need something serious done/expensive medication I still have a Carte Vitale in France so can just go back over there, whoopla!

Scioch · 03-11-2012 8:53pm

Manny Pacquiao wrote: »

Yes, I criticize someone for being on Boards.ie in the pub because I'm jealous of them and that makes absolute sense!

That must apply to you too, then, because you're on here too and must have nothing to do, apparently, seeing you are now finding faults with me. Don't be so self-loathing - if you don't love yourself, then no-one will.

I was in the pub earlier watching the football matches. Didn't log-on to Boards.ie, though, because I have friends on Facebook I rather chat to.

So your just criticising them for the hell of it ? Just to amuse yourself ? Point still stands then, why must people fill their time picking at what other people are doing ? And that cannot be said without coming across as hypocritical but I cant help that.

And I wasnt criticising you as you were Madam_x, I was conversing with Madam_x about you and your possible motives for needing to fill your time criticising others. There is a subtle difference.

I'm not self loathing (then again it might explain a lot). And I dont fill my time picking at others (not needlessly) I just felt the need to highlight what seemed to me to be what you were as I see it quite a bit and it gets to me. People seem very intent on finding fault with others when there is absolutely no reason to. Whether its calling them weirdos for sitting alone reading a book, calling them morons for watching x-factor or scoffing if they use facebook. Seems to me people are jealous because they have so little in their lives that actually interests them enough to hold their attention.

If I was wrong about you I apologise and retract the statement. If not then I challenge you to fisticuffs Mr Pacquiao.

poussin78 · 03-11-2012 8:58pm

Lia_lia wrote: »

Expect a lot less holidays from work anyway! They always seem to have time off in France. Depends what you're doing I guess. Health system is pretty crappy here too compared to France. If I ever need something serious done/expensive medication I still have a Carte Vitale in France so can just go back over there, whoopla!

Does that work ? I thought once you were affiliated to the Irish health scheme you weren't covered by the French secu ? I think it depends on whether you're expatrié or détaché - maybe you're the latter ? Did you keep your Mutuelle too ?

Qualitymark · 03-11-2012 10:40pm

Madam_X wrote: »

I'm relaxing on a comfy seat in a bar right now, surrounded by contented, relaxed people - well dressed, well fed, talking about whatever they wish. Out the window I see parked cars, all fairly new. I think it's a ****ing disgrace to lie about Ireland being a third world hole, a horrible place to live. Those who do so haven't the first ****ing iota as to what actually constitutes same.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, exactly.

Ireland is two countries now. In one, people are comfortable, secure, well-off, with nice jobs and good wages and health insurance, good holidays, a career structure; they've never missed a meal and they live happy, relaxed lives.

And they're completely unaware that many people - indeed, if they only knew it, perhaps the prosperous-seeming solicitor sitting opposite them and laughing - are living lives of terror and desperation, mired in mortgage debt. They walk (or more likely drive in their fairly new cars) unheeding past the shops that have closed, and past the people calculating whether they have the money to pay for a meal or should try to pay their home insurance with that money. They simply have no conception, for instance, that more than 77,000 people in Ireland are in arrears with their mortgages.

I wish them happiness of their unawareness, as I wish happiness and good rest to the wealthy families of Corofin in 1850 who ordered lobster and wine while their neighbours starved around them.

However... OP: if you're being offered a good salary and good career prospects, why not take the chance; it'll give you a step up on the career ladder; you may be able to return to France later and have a job that would stimulate you and empower you more. You have the choice to dip your toe into Ireland and leave if you find it not to your taste.

billybudd · 03-11-2012 10:48pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

This is exactly what I'm talking about, exactly.

Ireland is two countries now. In one, people are comfortable, secure, well-off, with nice jobs and good wages and health insurance, good holidays, a career structure; they've never missed a meal and they live happy, relaxed lives.

And they're completely unaware that many people - indeed, if they only knew it, perhaps the prosperous-seeming solicitor sitting opposite them and laughing - are living lives of terror and desperation, mired in mortgage debt. They walk (or more likely drive in their fairly new cars) unheeding past the shops that have closed, and past the people calculating whether they have the money to pay for a meal or should try to pay their home insurance with that money. They simply have no conception, for instance, that more than 77,000 people in Ireland are in arrears with their mortgages.

I wish them happiness of their unawareness, as I wish happiness and good rest to the wealthy families of Corofin in 1850 who ordered lobster and wine while their neighbours starved around them.

However... OP: if you're being offered a good salary and good career prospects, why not take the chance; it'll give you a step up on the career ladder; you may be able to return to France later and have a job that would stimulate you and empower you more. You have the choice to dip your toe into Ireland and leave if you find it not to your taste.

whats the second one?

Qualitymark · 03-11-2012 10:49pm

billybudd wrote: »

whats the second one?

Rich one poor one. Parallel universes.

Scortho · 03-11-2012 10:52pm

flyswatter wrote: »

Fine Gael are the most far right party in the country, if you're comparing our government with France's.

If you class FG as far right then there is something wrong. Ireland has no far right in this country. In fact they have very little right at all. If you want to see far right head to germany or america.

OP if you're coming with a job lined up you'll be fine. In fact you'll have a great time. We love to have the craic and are really welcoming. Well most of us are. You may find a very tiny minority saying your taking our jobs. If you here this, trust me you're not. You're filling a job that unfortunately these very people couldn't!

billybudd · 03-11-2012 11:02pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

Rich one poor one. Parallel universes.

More poverty and worse living conditions in USA than here, yes there is poor and there is rich but there is anywhere, would much prefer to live here than alot of places in the world where there is structures to help the poor and the lazy in the form of SW and it is very generous even to the tune with competing with MW jobs and being on par and surpassing monthly wages in alot of eastern european countries where the cost of living is not that much lower than here.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 03-11-2012 11:13pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

Rich one poor one. Parallel universes.

In debt after failing to pretend they're rich one and living according to their means one, more like.

Duggys Housemate · 03-11-2012 11:16pm

Ireland is fine. Most of the non-Irish I work with consider the corruption in their countries to be worse than here. My Italian coworker never stops on the incompetence of Italy and the pampering of their civil servants - who famously often don't go to work, they work a second job.

Ireland is about as efficient as Britain. Take that how you like, neither are perfect. The health system is probably worse, the social welfare payments are 4 times larger. Education - according to PISA - is mid ranking in OCED - which makes it amongst the worlds best - and despite what has been said here it rated higher than France. The bureaucracy is better than France. And as a renter you won't pay tax - no tax d'habitation. Crime is low.

Its a bad place for people who were trapped in negative equity, but they made that decision. The bitterness on here is from people who wouldn't live here if they could -? What's stopping them? the most bitter Irish are the never travelled Irish.

It's a good place to be young. As for culture, Paris is higher brow, although Ireland is hardly Alabama or Australia. If you aren't that high brow, come.

billybudd · 03-11-2012 11:21pm

Braylen Dry Kneecap wrote: »

In debt after failing to pretend they're rich one and living according to their means one, more like.

Or just where unfortunate and lost their job or hours where cut along with salary, but i suppose the smart ass answer is always the most popular one from the smug fraternity.

Duggys Housemate · 03-11-2012 11:24pm

billybudd wrote: »

Or just where unfortunate and lost their job or hours where cut along with salary, but i suppose the smart ass answer is always the most popular one from the smug fraternity.

Fine but nothing to do with someone who is coming here mortgage free. We don't hand out over-priced mortgages at the border.

billybudd · 03-11-2012 11:29pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

Fine but nothing to do with someone who is coming here mortgage free. We don't hand out over-priced mortgages at the border.

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Not anymore anyway.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 03-11-2012 11:36pm

billybudd wrote: »

Or just where unfortunate and lost their job or hours where cut along with salary, but i suppose the smart ass answer is always the most popular one from the smug fraternity.

You see plenty of crocodile tears for the "500k mortgage for a two bedroomed apartment and now their hours are cut back" crowd but you never see any sympathy for anyone actually born into abject poverty here, many of whom didn't get a gigantic 40 year mortgage or brand new Toyota Avensis's on credit.

Typical selfish mentality, judging by some of the posters here you'd swear the only people suffering in Irish were indebted but otherwise healthy, middle-class homeowners.

billybudd · 03-11-2012 11:43pm

Braylen Dry Kneecap wrote: »

You see plenty of crocodile tears for the "500k mortgage for a two bedroomed apartment and now their hours are cut back" crowd but you never see any sympathy for anyone actually born into abject poverty here, many of whom didn't get a gigantic 40 year mortgage or brand new Toyota Avensis's on credit.

Typical selfish mentality, judging by some of the posters here you'd swear the only people suffering in Irish were indebted but otherwise healthy, middle-class homeowners.

You donrt need to be middle class to be in debt, a couple earning MW a few years ago who bought a house for 180,000 euro and then loss their job through no fault of their own are now living on the breadline, there is the myth that everyone has CC debts, store card debts, CU debts, personal loan debts, car loans but a good chunk of people in trouble are people whose only crime was to buy a regular sized house and be able to afford that mortgage until recession hits and they lose their jobs because a factory or the like closes.

Lia_lia · 04-11-2012 12:04am

poussin78 wrote: »

Does that work ? I thought once you were affiliated to the Irish health scheme you weren't covered by the French secu ? I think it depends on whether you're expatrié or détaché - maybe you're the latter ? Did you keep your Mutuelle too ?

My Father lives in France and I lived there during my childhood...I'm still under his family stuff. They think I still live there. Completely illegal i'd say!

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:09am

@ duggy : "high-brow" no, not for everything ... prefer a good indie concert and a pint than an art expo ... am relatively sensible to architecture than weather though ... -:)

re. financial situation : I'll not be coming over with a mortgage, no (have no debt of any description) ... will be renting (hopefully city centre / D4 / D6) ... will be living on my own and earning 68k. Doable / lifestyle ?

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:09am

Lia_lia wrote: »

My Father lives in France and I lived there during my childhood...I'm still under his family stuff. They think I still live there. Completely illegal i'd say!

Ca vaut la peine d'essayer quand même ....

billybudd · 04-11-2012 12:11am

poussin78 wrote: »

@ duggy : "high-brow" no, not for everything ... prefer a good indie concert and a pint than an art expo ... am relatively sensible to architecture than weather though ... -:)

re. financial situation : I'll not be coming over with a mortgage, no (have no debt of any description) ... will be renting (hopefully city centre / D4 / D6) ... will be living on my own and earning 68k. Doable / lifestyle ?

You will have a ball!!! some great restaurants in D6, Seagrass in portobello is great and BYO as well.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:17am

billybudd wrote: »

You will have a ball!!! some great restaurants in D6, Seagrass in portobello is great and BYO as well.

To be considered after rent !!!
I'm told to expect to pay 1200 rent for a one bed !!
Had been hoping for 900-1000 ...

billybudd · 04-11-2012 12:18am

poussin78 wrote: »

To be considered after rent !!!
I'm told to expect to pay 1200 rent for a one bed !!
Had been hoping for 900-1000 ...

Quite possible to get a nice apartment for that www.daft.ie

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:21am

billybudd wrote: »

Quite possible to get a nice apartment for that www.daft.ie

Been looking frantically on daft yep !!
Nice for 900 is possible, yes, but too far from city centre ...
Northside, I'd been thinking about smithfield or stoneybatter, but I'm being warned off ... (security)
Or considering goes as far out as Dun Laghaoire but think i'd be bored ...

billybudd · 04-11-2012 12:24am

poussin78 wrote: »

Been looking frantically on daft yep !!
Nice for 900 is possible, yes, but too far from city centre ...
Northside, I'd been thinking about smithfield or stoneybatter, but I'm being warned off ... (security)
Or considering goes as far out as Dun Laghaoire but think i'd be bored ...

http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?s%5Bcc_id%5D=c1&s%5Ba_id%5D%5B%5D=206&s%5Broute_id%5D=&s%5Ba_id_transport%5D=0&s%5Bstreet_name%5D=&s%5Btxt%5D=&s%5Bmnp%5D=&s%5Bmxp%5D=900&s%5Bmnb%5D=&s%5Bmxb%5D=&s%5Bmnbt%5D=&s%5Bmxbt%5D=&s%5Bpt_id%5D=&s%5Bmove_in_date%5D=0&s%5Blease%5D=&s%5Bfurn%5D=0&s%5Bnpt_id%5D=&s%5Bdays_old%5D=&s%5Bsingle_beds%5D=&s%5Bdouble_beds%5D=&s%5Btwin_beds%5D=&s%5Bagreed%5D=&more=&tab=&search=1&s%5Bsearch_type%5D=rental&s%5Btransport%5D=&s%5Badvanced%5D=&s%5Bprice_per_room%5D=&search.x=55&search.y=23

Clontarf is a really nice area and along the seafront with good transport and close to the city center and has the dart plus its close enough to cycle to town and during the summer is a nice walk from town.

Emeraldy Pebbles · 04-11-2012 12:24am

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

You mean they're carrying stun guns and using them? That's the only context in which Irish women would be stunning.

Always interesting to note who thanks posts like this.

billybudd · 04-11-2012 12:26am

Also rathmines and portobello are in Dublin 2,6 and have some nice apartments for that price.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:33am

Clontarf seems a little "residential", no ?
Would be very keen on portobello ...

lufties · 04-11-2012 12:38am

Jeebus think long and hard about that, Dublin can be a very dull ,damp, depressing place. I used hate waking up on a Sunday morn to grey skies. The place actually drove me to drink..on the flip side the night life is good...but be mindful to poor public transport, scangers etc

billybudd · 04-11-2012 12:43am

poussin78 wrote: »

Clontarf seems a little "residential", no ?
Would be very keen on portobello ...

Yeah it is, just some alternatives though

Oh and rathmines is right beside portobello.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 12:51am

lufties wrote: »

Jeebus think long and hard about that, Dublin can be a very dull ,damp, depressing place. I used hate waking up on a Sunday morn to grey skies. The place actually drove me to drink..on the flip side the night life is good...but be mindful to poor public transport, scangers etc

My memory is that the mornings were often sunny !
But maybe my memory's cloudy -;)

Snowie · 04-11-2012 12:59am

seriously france rocks you've got mountains to play on with snow

snowboarding

Duggys Housemate · 04-11-2012 12:59am

poussin78 wrote: »

@ duggy : "high-brow" no, not for everything ... prefer a good indie concert and a pint than an art expo ... am relatively sensible to architecture than weather though ... -:)

re. financial situation : I'll not be coming over with a mortgage, no (have no debt of any description) ... will be renting (hopefully city centre / D4 / D6) ... will be living on my own and earning 68k. Doable / lifestyle ?

Sure. That's about 4k a month after taxes. Rent should be no more than 800-1k. You have massive disposable income.

Ares · 04-11-2012 1:00am

mauzo wrote: »

I'm having the craic anyway!!

Are you really though. You've posted an average of 22 posts a day since you joined boards. If by craic you mean 'spend every waking hour on boards.ie' then yeah I'm sure you're having a ball of fun.

Madam_X wrote: »

I'm relaxing on a comfy seat in a bar right now, surrounded by contented, relaxed people - well dressed, well fed, talking about whatever they wish. Out the window I see parked cars, all fairly new. I think it's a ****ing disgrace to lie about Ireland being a third world hole, a horrible place to live. Those who do so haven't the first ****ing iota as to what actually constitutes same.

Ah lovely, another one of the 22 post per day crew! You're surrounded by reasonable company and instead of, you know, conversing with real people you must log onto boards in case you miss anything. Fúck me but the pair of me must have unbelieveably sad lives.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 1:38am

Sorry but I don't see why anyone who logs on and posts here should criticise anyone else for doing the very same thing ...
Regular posting does not mean a sad life ! ... I post regularly on various forums when I'm on my computer, working or researching ... having a "conversation" as a sidetrack to another activity can help concentration (mini breaks) ... otherwise said, multi-tasking and having interests.
I don't think you'll find there's anyone on here who is just sitting glued to Boards !

billybudd · 04-11-2012 1:44am

poussin78 wrote: »

Sorry but I don't see why anyone who logs on and posts here should criticise anyone else for doing the very same thing ...
Regular posting does not mean a sad life ! ... I post regularly on various forums when I'm on my computer, working or researching ... having a "conversation" as a sidetrack to another activity can help concentration (mini breaks) ... otherwise said, multi-tasking and having interests.
I don't think you'll find there's anyone on here who is just sitting glued to Boards !

well in Ireland having the craic to some people mean getting locked in a pub.

Scioch · 04-11-2012 1:47am

billybudd wrote: »

well in Ireland having the craic to some most people mean getting locked in a pub.

Fixed. Unfortunately this has also crossed over into having a good time of any kind. And most people think unless your getting locked your missing out.

Peregrine · 04-11-2012 1:56am

poussin78 wrote: »

Sorry but I don't see why anyone who logs on and posts here should criticise anyone else for doing the very same thing ...
Regular posting does not mean a sad life ! ... I post regularly on various forums when I'm on my computer, working or researching ... having a "conversation" as a sidetrack to another activity can help concentration (mini breaks) ... otherwise said, multi-tasking and having interests.
I don't think you'll find there's anyone on here who is just sitting glued to Boards !

True, average post counts doesn't mean anything. Just cos they took more interest in dicussions at boards when they joined doesn't mean they're no-lifing boards.ie

Anyway, Dublin is a great city, coming from someone who moved here 7 years ago. Don't let these idiots here put you off from moving here and with a salary like that, you won't run into any financial problems either. And by the way, if you post in the "Dublin city" forum, you'll get a better response

Whichever your choice may be, I wish you the very best of luck

flyswatter · 04-11-2012 2:06am

Scortho wrote: »

If you class FG as far right then there is something wrong. Ireland has no far right in this country. In fact they have very little right at all. If you want to see far right head to germany or america.

OP if you're coming with a job lined up you'll be fine. In fact you'll have a great time. We love to have the craic and are really welcoming. Well most of us are. You may find a very tiny minority saying your taking our jobs. If you here this, trust me you're not. You're filling a job that unfortunately these very people couldn't!

I didn't say they were far right. I said most far right (on a scale).

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 2:12am

Scioch wrote: »

Fixed. Unfortunately this has also crossed over into having a good time of any kind. And most people think unless your getting locked your missing out.

Noooooooooo ... please tell me there are people out there who enjoy conversation over 2 or 3 glasses of wine max ? -;)

flyswatter · 04-11-2012 2:16am

poussin78 wrote: »

Noooooooooo ... please tell me there are people out there who enjoy conversation over 2 or 3 glasses of wine max ? -;)

Yeah, there will be. Although it's not as ingrained in our culture like it is in France.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 2:25am

flyswatter wrote: »

Yeah, there will be. Although it's not as ingrained in our culture like it is in France.

It will be.;)

Barry Barry · 04-11-2012 2:33am

Just a tip OP, make sure people know how much you love Brian Cowen

K-9 · 04-11-2012 2:37am

poussin78 wrote: »

Noooooooooo ... please tell me there are people out there who enjoy conversation over 2 or 3 glasses of wine max ? -;)

That would be a lunch time drink!

It isn't as bad as the ranters make it out to be. Just don't say you'll be on 68k and a public service job, or they'll go ape, well more ape than usual which is very ape.

We've our problems like any other country, but it isn't a bad country to be in at all.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 2:44am

K-9 wrote: »

That would be a lunch time drink!

It isn't as bad as the ranters make it out to be. Just don't say you'll be on 68k and a public service job, or they'll go ape, well more ape than usual which is very ape.

We've our problems like any other country, but it isn't a bad country to be in at all.

It's not a public service job ! Why would that make them go ape ?

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 2:45am

Barry Barry wrote: »

Just a tip OP, make sure people know how much you love Brian Cowen

Sorry ... I don't get it ... does he drink wine and talk about France ? F*** I'm going to need a crash course in Irish politics btw

K-9 · 04-11-2012 2:53am

poussin78 wrote: »

It's not a public service job ! Why would that make them go ape ?

I wonder that myself! Its a right wing politics thing, I'm sure France isn't any different.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 3:03am

Sorry, but I have a really practical question ... (am doing my moving research as we speak -;)

What is the absolute best package for TV, Broadband (wifi) and phone ? ... UPS ? Sky ? ... Or is it best to separate them ?

And, does anyone know of any phone operator offering free international calls ? I thought Sky Talk was supposed to be coming to Ireland, but no news ...

Thanks a million if you have any advice.

sdanseo · 04-11-2012 3:11am

If you're Irish, family and all here, and you're being offered a decent job here, come home

If it's a contract, crap job, or if you're delightfully happy in France, stay put.

poussin78 · 04-11-2012 3:14am

sdeire wrote: »

If you're Irish, family and all here, and you're being offered a decent job here, come home

If it's a contract, crap job, or if you're delightfully happy in France, stay put.

Thanks !
No, it's a permanent job and an excellent career move.
I have friends in France, but family is at home.
Recently broke up with boyf.
Hard to know where feels like home - both do - torn in both directions.

Seriously worried ...

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