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Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64848
Hi guys
I'm about to make the decision to leave France for Dublin (job in hand).
Am I mad ?
Is everything negative I'm reading really true ?
Or is there still fun to be had over there ?
Thanks !
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Welcome to boards
Ireland is a great country with great people and you will have a great life here. As long as you don't lose your job or your health. If either happens to you, you're fukced and nobody gives a sh1te. Harsh but true!
no hes thinking of moving to Ireland not America. Ireland is pretty good at looking after its people as far as i can see, good social welfare rates, college grants, medical cards etc iv been in college the last 4 years, all paid for by the state:)its a great country, come on over.0 -
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LivelineDipso wrote: »The Irish who were dumb enough to buy overpriced houses at 100% loans to impress their mammies are the ones doing all the complaining now.
Personally I think they should be awarded the Darwin Prize.
The rest of us who lived within our means are doing fine here. Ireland is great country it you have common sense - the problem is a large number of Irish people are mindless followers to be frank.
From Lemmings to LiveLine...
THAT. I am sorry, but it's true - I know people who bought 2 bedroom apartments for 450k; I am no financial nor property advisor but come on, even a blind monkey would have questioned that price.
Now the people that were sensible enough to live within their means will end up paying the mortgages for the foolish.
As for you OP, if you have a job ready in Dublin, do it. It's a great city, vibrant and alive - loads of options for just about any taste, from cultural nights to getting drunk to levels you didn't imagine possible (I'm a total non-drinker, anyway ).
Do not listen to Irish people as they seem to be the most pessimistic, self-esteem lacking bunch on the effing planet - a country of only 4 million inhabitants that keeps having a profound cultural, artistic and industrial impact worldwide is a force to be reckoned with, no matter what.
Problems, all country has them. Excessive drinking is definitively one; It's a cultural staple that will be difficult to beat and causes much more damage than most realize (from torn families to lost jobs). This said, most Irish people are NOT hopeless permadrunks but extremely well educated folks and excellent professionals; Unfortunately, the drunken minority happens to be the most visible and noisy, so wrong first impressions amongst foreigners are a common thing.
Crime is nearly non-existent when compared to other big cities in the EU (London, Paris, Rome, Liverpool, Madrid, Berlin, Naples, Marseille...you get the idea).
All in all, the main thing is to keep your mind open - modern Ireland is a quite unique blend of old traditions mixed with British and, more recently, American influence. It will be different from France. Not better, not worse - different. Forget all preconceptions, be open to new ideas and things and you'll enjoy this country a lot.
Last thing - If you are a guy. Irish women are, on average, STUNNING 0 -
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H3llR4iser wrote: »Last thing - If you are a guy. Irish women are, on average, STUNNING
You mean they're carrying stun guns and using them? That's the only context in which Irish women would be stunning.0 -
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H3llR4iser wrote: »
"Crime is nearly non-existent when compared to other big cities in the EU (London, Paris, Rome, Liverpool, Madrid, Berlin, Naples, Marseille...you get the idea)."
It is its arse. If you threw a stone in Dublin city centre you'd hit some variety of a drug addict or ne'er do well, not to mention open heroin dealing and use in various places around the town. Estates in Cork, Limerick and Dublin are far bigger sh*tholes than anywhere you'll see in the likes of London. Crime rates in Ireland as a country may be quite low, but Irish cities and big towns are rough as guts in many respects. If you think there's more hassle in the likes of London or Barcelona than there is in Dublin you're off your nut.
"Last thing - If you are a guy. Irish women are, on average, STUNNING"
My hole.0 -
I have been to both London and Liverpool and they feel way safer than the scumbag ridden streets of our capital.H3llR4iser wrote: »THAT. I am sorry, but it's true - I know people who bought 2 bedroom apartments for 450k; I am no financial nor property advisor but come on, even a blind monkey would have questioned that price.
Now the people that were sensible enough to live within their means will end up paying the mortgages for the foolish.
As for you OP, if you have a job ready in Dublin, do it. It's a great city, vibrant and alive - loads of options for just about any taste, from cultural nights to getting drunk to levels you didn't imagine possible (I'm a total non-drinker, anyway ).
Do not listen to Irish people as they seem to be the most pessimistic, self-esteem lacking bunch on the effing planet - a country of only 4 million inhabitants that keeps having a profound cultural, artistic and industrial impact worldwide is a force to be reckoned with, no matter what.
Problems, all country has them. Excessive drinking is definitively one; It's a cultural staple that will be difficult to beat and causes much more damage than most realize (from torn families to lost jobs). This said, most Irish people are NOT hopeless permadrunks but extremely well educated folks and excellent professionals; Unfortunately, the drunken minority happens to be the most visible and noisy, so wrong first impressions amongst foreigners are a common thing.
Crime is nearly non-existent when compared to other big cities in the EU (London, Paris, Rome, Liverpool, Madrid, Berlin, Naples, Marseille...you get the idea).
All in all, the main thing is to keep your mind open - modern Ireland is a quite unique blend of old traditions mixed with British and, more recently, American influence. It will be different from France. Not better, not worse - different. Forget all preconceptions, be open to new ideas and things and you'll enjoy this country a lot.
Last thing - If you are a guy. Irish women are, on average, STUNNING0 -
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Qualitymark wrote: »Maybe make the move for a year and see how you feel then.
Ireland is rapidly becoming two countries. In one, people who are doing fine sneer at anyone who's got into trouble by losing their work or investing in a home at a time when homes were expensive. In the other, people are, in Thoreau's phrase, living lives of quiet desperation.
The suicide rate is spiralling upwards, with a new name, 'financials', for suicides caused by the stress of debt or trying to make ends meet on the dole or in low-paid work.
Irish people, once so warm and generous, are becoming cold, cynical and absolutely heartless.
There is an enormous divide between the well-paid - politicians on a starting salary of almost €93,000, with the same amount in perks; medical consultants on €200,000 basic who treat private patients for profit, with the use of publicly-owned equipment such as PET scanners, while neglecting the public patients. Your visit to your family doctor will cost you €60 a time, and if s/he sends you to a specialist (you have to be referred, unlike France), you can set the meter running for hundreds; each test will have to be paid for. Many people, especially the old, are now unable to pay the rising cost of private health insurance, and so after a lifetime of paying for others' treatment through mutual insurance, are now left without cover and desperately afraid.
Here is how the changes in tax and welfare have affected the people of Ireland (poorest to the left, richest to the right):
(From The Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/03/austeritys-wake-why-irelands-spending-cuts-should-scare-us-too/255181/)
If I could get a job in France you wouldn't see me for dust.
This is EXACTLY how I feel, this is a country where it's like some kind of fúcked up parallel universe. There are so many people now unemployed, as if that isn't bad enough, it's a country where the less inclined you are to do something about your state of unemployment, the more likely you are to be left alone and in fact rewarded.
The more you are inclined to drag yourself out of unemployment, maybe create a job for yourself, start up a business, then the more you are going to feel like shooting yourself in the head when you run into the banking system and the "for the file" public sector mentality that very subtly obstructs everything you try to do.
Then every time you turn on the television in the evening, be it the FrontLine, Vincent Browne's Tonight Show, you'll see night after night, lying overpaid corrupt bástard cúnts from political parties trying to appease the whole nation with hugely expensive spin doctoring and lies about a recovery, lies about how we are going to get out of this, lies lies and more lies, always spoken by a man or woman paid around 200K a year from taxpayers money.
It's a horrible place to live it's a hopeless place to live, crime is everywhere, especially the kind of crime that affects you, like anti social behaviour, petty theft, petty crime, etc.
Avoid the place as you would a leper colony is my advice.0 -
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