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Sean Quinn Jailed

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  • #182
    folan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    zenno wrote: »
    I don't know why people are angry about this sentence because i'm sure sean quinn was rolling around his sitting room laughing his head off at the weak sentence he got. 9 weeks is a joke and he knows it.

    he's in jail for contempt of court, nothing else. worth noting that.


  • #183
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    zenno wrote: »
    I don't know why people are angry about this sentence because i'm sure sean quinn was rolling around his sitting room floor laughing his head off at the weak sentence he got. 9 weeks is a joke and he knows it.

    Nine and a half weeks in Mountjoy would have sounded all the more threatening.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #184
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    General Zod wrote: »
    I'm in Cavan right now taking names for the civil unrest militia, or the Quinn-ta Brigada as we're calling ourselves.

    I prefer Cavan + The Taliban = The Caviban


  • #185
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Jeez, I'll put it simply.

    Quinn is jailed for contempt of court for not helping recover assets he had hidden.

    Others are not even investigated for hiding assets.

    They haven't been investigated yet. there's an important point that the cult of Quinn don't like to take into account. They somehow believe that once Quinn is jailed all investigations will stop and nobody will mention them again.

    And it still doesn't show Quinn's jailing as being an injustice. He was demonstrably guilty.


  • #186
    sfwcork
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    wrote:



    ***** Keypad warrior Alert********


    You typed that with what......

    I actually wasnt talking about you.I was referring to the other "Quinn is an innocent man" fanpage member

    HTH


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  • #187
    9959
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    JR Ewing wrote: »
    Shame on all those expressing delight at the jailing of Sean Quinn. You are certainly entitled to your opinion....
    .....Could the likes of James Connolly & Michael Collins not be accused as being murderers in pursuit of freedom? Sometimes the end justifies the means.....
    ...

    Hang on, I'll just add him to my list of heroic figures.

    James Connolly
    Nelson Mandela
    Lech Walesa
    Emily Pankhurst
    Rosa Parks
    Martin Luther King
    Oskar Schindler
    Malala Yusufzai
    Aung San Suu Kyi
    eh, Sean Quinn


  • #188
    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Man has being sending probes to mars for years, but man will be sending a few probes to uranus seany. :)


  • #189
    con1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭con1982


    baldbear wrote: »
    Joe Duffy will be rubbing himself over this story.

    What Joe Duffy does in his free time shouldn't be discussed IMO.


  • #190
    AGC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    While I have zero sympathy for him I will give him some credit in that he is facing up to what he has landed himself in unlike his nephew and that, unlike many, many others who have fled, gone to ground etc... He apologises.Not much for the mistakes he made but when you see some of the others who are still 'free' hopefully this is a stepping stone for them all to be brought to justice.


  • #191
    renofan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    AGC wrote: »
    While I have zero sympathy for him I will give him some credit in that he is facing up to what he has landed himself in unlike his nephew and that, unlike many, many others who have fled, gone to ground etc... He apologises.Not much for the mistakes he made but when you see some of the others who are still 'free' hopefully this is a stepping stone for them all to be brought to justice.

    I'd do nine weeks too instead of not trying to do as the court asked me. The court found he had made NO effort whatsoever to reverse his actions of putting assets beyond the reach of creditors. Nine weeks is all he gets. He is a disgrace along with the rest of his family.


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  • #192
    Ellis Dee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Despite all the whining and appeals for compassion that are coming from Quinn's lawyers and friends, I don't feel any pity for him.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I'm sure he still has enough money to pay someone to pick up the soap for him when he drops it in the shower.:D:D:D


  • #193
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    JR Ewing wrote: »
    Shame on all those expressing delight at the jailing of Sean Quinn. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you have obviously been "infected" by the expensive media circus & spin which has been paid for (at all our expense by IBRC/Anglo). Is there anyway you could look at the actual facts of the matter?

    1. Sean Quinn employed over 8,000 people in this country & while once listed as "the wealthiest man" in Ireland (a title he never courted or sought media attention for- more it was labelled on him) he never went "off shore" as a tax exile. He has lived & paid his taxes with this entire nation while putting food on the table for 1,000s of families with wages.

    2. IBRC/Anglo fradulently enticed Sean Quinn to prop up the share price of the bank using CFD's purchased with money they lent him. He was led like a lamb to slaughter by Sean Fitzpatrick & David Drumm (both of whom are still free men) having been fed a lie and financially induced to cover up their mess and then when the "Anglo Grenade" went off want him to take the fall. Put yourself in this man's situation? He took Fitzpatrick & Drumm i.e. Anglo at face value only to subsequently find out that they had actually lied to him & that his transactions had been based on a fraud- would you hand back your life's work & family's assets to the same organisation? Would you f**k!

    Of course Sean Quinn is in contempt of court- any self respecting man would do anything in his power sooner than handover his life to an organisation who defrauded him? Could the likes of James Connolly & Michael Collins not be accused as being murderers in pursuit of freedom? Sometimes the end justifies the means.

    People like Sean Quinn are the job creators and entrepreneurs which this country needs to dig itself out of dung heap we find ourselves in. Jailing him is a national disgrace and shame on anyone who delights in another man's demise. Begrudgery is alive and well if many of the comments on this thread are to be beleived. There are not enough men with the "balls" of Sean Quinn left in Ireland- the balls to start with a hole in the ground quarry and build it into a €6bn fortune, and ultimately the balls to take on a bailed out bank with unlimited funds for media spin & legal fees being paid for by the tax payer.

    If that man is taken to jail there should be a civil revolt- no question. If that is supposed justice then sir the law is truly as ass.

    By the way I am in no way connected to Sean Quinn, am from Wexford not Cavan/Fermanagh. I am an Irish man who is ashamed of the treatment and so called law being punitively administered on Sean Quinn and his family.

    Accusations of begrudgery, calls for civil unrest and comparison of Quinn to Collins and Connolly while portraying Quinn as an innocent victim in his own demise.

    Yep, I think this is the point where the thread went full retard.


  • #194
    AGC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    renofan wrote: »
    I'd do nine weeks too instead of not trying to do as the court asked me. The court found he had made NO effort whatsoever to reverse his actions of putting assets beyond the reach of creditors. Nine weeks is all he gets. He is a disgrace along with the rest of his family.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I just hope it is the start of a process which includes, Seanie, Drumm etc etc...


  • #195
    steve9859
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    Sounds like half of Cavan is on the phone to Joe. And the other half is on hold listening to "your call is important to Joe....he will be with you shortly"......


  • #196
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Jeez, I'll put it simply.

    Quinn is jailed for contempt of court for not helping recover assets he had hidden.

    Others are not even investigated for hiding assets.

    Okay, so you admit that Quinn is being jailed for contempt of court for not helping to recover assets he had hidden. What is wrong with the punishment he is receiving?

    Also, have you access to all the investigations ongoing by NAMA at the moment?


  • #197
    HellFireClub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    The huge scandal in all of this is that if Anglo were treated exactly like Quinn has been treated, it would have been wound down and be in no position to take an action against party!

    But because an UNELECTED cabal of ECB wánking bankers were allowed interfere in the normal course an outcome of the well understood capitalist process in this jurisdiction, (failure gets punished, success gets rewarded), gets set aside, the bank is propped back up by the government and the taxpayer is now on the hook for the lot!!!

    What should have happened here:

    (1) Sean Quinn borrows 2.3 Bil or whatever from Anglo using CFD's...

    (2) Anglo borrow/acquire this money on the financial markets and lend it back out to Sean Quinn, on the understanding that he uses the money to buy the banks shares, as the banks share price is under severe pressure...

    (3) Soon thereafter, it emerges that the bank is hopelessly bust and has liabilities that hugely exceed it's asset base.

    (4) The bank goes into liquidation, investors, lenders, bondholders, creditors, whatever you want to call people who are owed money back from the bank, have a process called Receivership or Liquidation, for the purposes of lawfully attempting to recover any losses that they have been exposed to.

    Instead of (4), we have been handed (5), which is that the Irish government, under extreme duress from the ECB, an UNELECTED cabal of politically appointed mercenary elites, instructed our government to hand over billions of Euro of taxpayers money to the banks, in order to keep them open!!! What was the legal basis for this, we did not hand over finance as a competency to the EU under The Lisbon (II!) Treaty!!! Our gov of arsehóle's should have said, "sorry lads, it's a private basketcase bank, our taxpayers work hard enough, this has nothing to do with them, let the creditors go through the formal process for recovering their losses!!!" Instead, we got ball lícked and arsé licking by a government of pompus deluded clowns!

    WHAT THE FÚCK HAS ANY OF THIS TO DO WITH THE IRISH GOVERNMENT OR THE IRISH TAXPAYER?!? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!


  • #198
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Eh, Anglo is being wound down.


  • #199
    skinny90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭skinny90


    gustafo wrote: »
    9 weeks!! the fcuker should be getting 9 years
    Whats the chances hell be out early for "good behavior"


  • #200
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,292 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    HellFireClub wrote: »
    WHAT THE FÚCK HAS ANY OF THIS TO DO WITH THE IRISH GOVERNMENT OR THE IRISH TAXPAYER?!? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh dear oh dear


  • #201
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    kunst nugget wrote: »

    Also, have you access to all the investigations ongoing by NAMA at the moment?


    Yes, yes I do. :rolleyes:

    What an amazing turn around that Anglo aka IBRC is the good guy in all this and the subject of such cheerleading.

    If you think good on them they are going to get money back for the Irish people then you are truly deluded. Not a cent of recovered funds will go into services for Irish people.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • #202
    sfwcork
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    wrote:
    Yes, yes I do.

    What an amazing turn around that Anglo aka IBRC is the good guy in all this and the subject of such cheerleading.

    If you think good on them they are going to get money back for the Irish people then you are truly deluded. Not a cent of recovered funds will go into services for Irish people.

    regardless of whether its put up the hole of a sheep on the mountains of kerry its still not theyre money anymore.


  • #203
    folan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Yes, yes I do. :rolleyes:

    What an amazing turn around that Anglo aka IBRC is the good guy in all this and the subject of such cheerleading.

    If you think good on them they are going to get money back for the Irish people then you are truly deluded. Not a cent of recovered funds will go into services for Irish people.

    who said that Anglo or the IRBC are good guys?

    most posters here want to see everyone involved in this brought to justice. its pretty obvious we wont get our money back. but that doesnt mean we are willing to see justice go undone.


  • #204
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Not a cent of recovered funds will go into services for Irish people.

    Facepalm. You do realise the more they recover, the lower the bill is for the state?


  • #205
    HellFireClub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Eh, Anglo is being wound down.

    Yeah, AFTER we have ploughed in tens of billions of Euro in capital!!! That isn't capitalism, that isn't "winding down" a company!!! That's bullshít and any small business person will tell you that!!!


  • #206
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    HellFireClub wrote: »
    Yeah, AFTER we have ploughed in tens of billions of Euro in capital!!! That isn't capitalism, that isn't "winding down" a company!!! That's bullshít and any small business person will tell you that!!!


    Are you sitting down? good.

    Brace yourself for this:


















    are you ready?











    Sometimes capitalism doesn't work.


  • #207
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Facepalm. You do realise the more they recover, the lower the bill is for the state?

    Double face palm to you sir.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #208
    HellFireClub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Facepalm. You do realise the more they recover, the lower the bill is for the state?

    This ought never have had anything to do with the balance sheet of this nation and you are conveniently refusing to face up to that!!! It's only saving the state money now, AFTER a downright fúcking stupid decision was made to get involved in the first place!!! Now our grandchildren will be paying for it!!!

    Look at what happened in Iceland, the answer to the banks was, "sorry lads, not our problem, go fúck yourselves!"

    Where would you rather be living now, Iceland or here?!?!? They don't have a 15% unemployment problem in Iceland, I can tell you that much!!!


  • #209
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    HellFireClub wrote: »
    Where would you rather be living now, Iceland or here?!?!? They don't have a 15% unemployment problem in Iceland, I can tell you that much!!!

    Yeah but the weather is sh!te and the women are all mingers.


  • #210
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Eh, Anglo is being wound down.

    Nothing to do with the €2.8 Billion loan either or the ECB but it was an epic rant.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #211
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Yes, yes I do. :rolleyes:

    Okay, you don't. So how do you know no one else is being investigated?

    Also, you never answered my question. Having admitted that Quinn is being jailed for contempt of court for not helping to recover assets he had hidden, do you see anything wrong with the punishment he is receiving?
    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    What an amazing turn around that Anglo aka IBRC is the good guy in all this and the subject of such cheerleading.

    If you think good on them they are going to get money back for the Irish people then you are truly deluded. Not a cent of recovered funds will go into services for Irish people.

    Who is cheerleading Anglo Irish Bank here? The IRBC's job is to recover the funds owed to Anglo to help alleviate the burden to the taxpayer from Anglo being wound down after the reckless actions of the likes Sean Fitzpatrick and, gasp, Sean Quinn. I'm sure nobody here is under the illusion that this money is going in to fund services - it is being collected to pay off the burden of debt this country has because of the actions of the banking sector.


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