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Openstreetmap - Mapping Galway City
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They 'had' it when I posted over two weeks ago here.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79308796&postcount=48
Maybe it was too cloudy and needs redoing ....they have standards you know.
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I downloaded NavFree a few days back (an android app which uses OpenStreetMap for sat nav guidance, and allows you to download maps for free offline navigation), searched Rahoon Road, and "Rahoon Road, Claddagh, Galway" came up. Same again for "Tuam Road, Claddagh, Galway". I registered with OSM to see what craic with Claddagh was, and saw that it's the only place in Galway city saved as a suburb - so it's probably assigning most of Galway to it by default.
So I've gone ahead and created a few more suburbs. Specifically Knocknacarra, Rahoon, Salthill, Shantalla, Westide, Newcastle and Dangan on the West side of the city (tried to put the exact spot roughly in the centre of these areas). I wouldn't be as familiar with the East side of the city, but saw that Terryland, Castlegar, Ballybaan and Doughiska were saved as "Hamlets", so I just changed them to suburbs as well.
There are a few more areas that need doing on the East side, e.g. Renmore, Ballybrit, Mervue, ? Merlin Park, but I'll leave somebody else more familiar with those areas stick them in. If I've missed any areas that could be counted as suburbs (e.g. I wasn't too sure about Rockbarton in Salthill), or if any of the points I've marked aren't quite where they should be, please let me know, or else feel free to go ahead and edit away
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Unfortunately JustMary, even though you added that informtation to Google maps, copying of that info is not allowed per Google terms of use because of the google map it is layered onto.
What would be created is a "derivative work"2. Restrictions on Use. Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not:
(a) copy, translate, modify, or make derivative works of the Content or any part thereof;
"Content" is clarifed further on down the TOS4. Content in the Products. Google Maps and Google Earth allow you to access and view a variety of content, including but not limited to photographic imagery, map and terrain data, business listings, reviews, traffic, and other related information provided by Google, its licensors, and its users (the "Content").
This is why, after discussing it with you previously, I was not able to use your bus route info in OSM. The above was pointed out to me after I mentione dit to someone else
*nudges JM towards OSM*
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Due to time constraints (work, study, life in general) I've had very little time to add more detail to the Galway map on OSM over the last 2 months (that didn't stop over a dozen new people adding info though ) so I am going to try something a little different.
OSM is about the community creating the map and what I would like to do is every week or two post up a target item to be mapped. For example, schools, ATM's, Hotels, pubs, pharmacy's etc etc.
What i am hoping will happen is all you Galway peeps will map one or two items each and by the time we move on to the next item, the bulk (if not all) of the previous item in Galway should be mapped.
I will provide details on how to do it on each post. I don't know yet if this will be a weekly thing or bi-weekly, probably play it by ear.
Anyway, first one up is ATM's. Currently there are only 7 ATM's showing up on OSM within the Galway City boundary. There most be close to 100 between in shops, garages, shopping centers etc
Target = ATM's
Method - Basic Detail
- Draw an outline of the building if one does not already exist and tag as building=yes
- If the ATM is on the outside of the building add a node on the outline of the building and tag as amenity=atm
- If the ATM is on the inside of the building, add a node inside the building and tag as amenity=atm
Add a node for each ATM e.g. there are 2 ATM's at BOI Mainguard Street, so 2 node's should be on the map
You can stop at this point, however, if you know further details you can add them as follows
Method - Greater Detail
Follow the steps above and proceed on to the following
- Building - If you know any of the following you can add
addr:street=street name here
addr:housenumber=digits only e.g. "1" or "1-2" if spans across multiple buildings
addr:housename=name of building e.g. Lynchs Castle
If the building is a bank you can add a node to the outline as close to the main entrance as possible with the following tags
amenity=bank
name=branch name e.g. Mainguard Street
operator=AIB, Bank of Ireland etc
- ATM - If you know any of the following you can add:
operator=AIB, Bank Of ireland etc
hour_on=HH:MM:SS access restricted at this time (only really applies to ATM's inside buildings)
hour_off=HH:MM:SS access available from this time (only really applies to ATM's inside buildings)
Thats it, have fun and remember the most important rule, you can not copy from other maps0 -
If it's any help, I've drawn a map of suburbs from the perspective of where the public transport and "groups of interesting things" are.
I believe that the OSM rules say you cannot copy directly from other sources, but as far as I'm concerned, you're very welcome to use the Galway suburbs map to grow your understanding of the areas.
Very handy map, thumbs up, but as DaCor said, I can't use it for the OSM map. Suburbs are harder to map out, cuz they're not exactly sign-posted on the ground and can be subjective, but I suppose unlike street names, they don't have to be 100% accurate, just so long as you get the general area correct. OSM also allows you to pinpoint a rough centre of a suburb, instead of mapping out the boundaries like you've done, and it doesn't take very long, so I'd echo DaCor and nudge you towards OSM to pinpoint the eastern suburbs on the map that you obviously know very well 0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »confusedquark, spotted that myself several months ago but work has been crazy so never got around to doing anything about it.
the suburbs are only a secondary thing anyway - you've already done a huge bulk of the primary stuff, which is more importantDeleted User wrote: »Target = ATM's & Banks
sounds like plan, probably better to go at it this way, then trying to do everything in one go, which gets you bogged down quickly... i'll keep an eye out0 -
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Bing imagery is updated ! Looks like they havent officially made it available yet as api is not returning the new tile generation id.
However if you use Josm you can get it if you do the following hack.
1. Exit Josm
2. Go to your Josm cache folder. In windows this is %APPDATA%/JOSM/cache
3. Edit bing.attribution.xml and change the g parameter in the url in <ImageUrl> to 1026
( previous g param was 1022 )
If you mess up bing.attribution.xml just delete it, josm will download a new one.
Imagery in Galway was acquired in two sessions - east Galway is dated 26/5 , west Galway dated 28/3 .
Ireland coverage appears to be same as detailed at http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/coverage_maps/aoap/aoap_europe/AOAP_Europe_Map_Ireland.pdf
mine showed as 940 not 1022 even with current release installed
looked over some of the imagery for East Galway around Mountbellew......going to be a busy weekend
Wow, Connemara looks a lot like the surface of Mars, talk about barren in places0 -
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I am looking for information now on schools in Galway city, any help would be greatly appreciated.
If you take a look at the following link, you will see where I have added details for schools.
A year ago I didn't know there were this many schools in Galway
On that basis I am convinced there are others that I am not aware of also. Can I ask people to take a look at that link and see if I am missing any schools, be they National, Secondary, Colleges, Special schools, and so on and let me know where they are located and the names.
For example, I know there is a national school somewhere around the Courthouse, but driving those streets in the car I have not been able to spot it.
Alternatively, you can map these yourself by doing the following:
- Draw around the outline of the school grounds and tag as amenity=school & name=Blah National School
- Draw around the outline of the building and tag as building=school
If a school, for example The Bish, is known as a few different names then use the following tagging to account for them:
- name=The Bish - name that school is commonly known as
- alt_name=St. Josephs Secondary School - might be the offical name, but may not be commonly known as this
- name:ga=Colaiste Iosef - not sure if this is correct name, but you get the idea0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »A year ago I didn't know there were this many schools in Galway
Yup, I've had that expereince, too.
Knocknacarra:
Your school building without a name behind Doire Gheal is officially called St John the Apostle National School - I've sometimes seen it referred to a Knocknacarra National School, or Knocknacarra Primary school.
The red one off Cappagh Rd is Gaelscoil Mhic AmhlaighScoil Naomh Sheosaimh / St Joseph's National School is up on Rahoon Rd, on the left side, a bit before the right hand turn off to Drom.
Barna
Scoil Shéamais Naofa - Barna / Bearna National School - is on the right as you come into the village-proper from the city.
Newcastle
On Thomas Hynes Rd, you the red one in front of the ET school is St Joseph's Special School
Wellpark
The unidentifed building in Wellpark Grove is Galway Education Centre
Renmore
The unidentified one off Ballyloughange Rd is the new home of Gaelscoil Dara
The Woodlands centre complex included Holy Family School, Rosedale School, Lakeview School0 -
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Mrs OBumble wrote: »Yup, I've had that expereince, too.
Knocknacarra:
Your school building without a name behind Doire Gheal is officially called St John the Apostle National School - I've sometimes seen it referred to a Knocknacarra National School, or Knocknacarra Primary school.
The red one off Cappagh Rd is Gaelscoil Mhic AmhlaighScoil Naomh Sheosaimh / St Joseph's National School is up on Rahoon Rd, on the left side, a bit before the right hand turn off to Drom.BarnaScoil Shéamais Naofa - Barna / Bearna National School - is on the right as you come into the village-proper from the city.NewcastleOn Thomas Hynes Rd, you the red one in front of the ET school is St Joseph's Special SchoolWellparkThe unidentifed building in Wellpark Grove is Galway Education CentreRenmore
The unidentified one off Ballyloughange Rd is the new home of Gaelscoil DaraThe Woodlands centre complex included Holy Family School, Rosedale School, Lakeview School
Knocknacarra & Cappagh Rd, had those, St Josephs added
Barna added
Already had St Josephs Special school
The woodlands complex, any idea which is which?
Gaelscoil dara, had that but I've mapped it correctly now to show the road & buildings. Just knew the site previously. the new imagery is handyantoobrien wrote: »At least part of that is attached to GMIT - Cluain Mhuire (formerly the Redemptorists).
The Galway Film Center is also based there.
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There has been a huge amount done over the last few months by a lot of people. Loads of people signing up and even just adding their local shop or church etc. Not everyone is a major contributor and thats ok too
There's a page on the OSM wiki that I setup for Galway, more of a to do list than anything else, but it gives some idea of whats done and whats still to do. Anyone can edit it, just set up a wiki account
One of the harder things is mapping all the business clusters (retail, industrial & commercial) in Galway. I'm slowly working my way through them, however if anyone lives near, or works in, any of these areas, I would appreciate help.
There is also an issue with apartment blocks. It can be very difficult to see any name plates to identify them, so if anyone is currently living in an apartment complex anywhere in the city I'd appreicate you checking to see if its on the map, and if not, go ahead and add it.
Before the end of the year I expect the map of Galway to be up to the level of most other offerings out there. After that, the next steps will involve mapping out bus routes (see Dublin) and cycle lanes (see Oxford)as both of these feed into other versions of the map and also several smartphone apps.
One thing that I'm kicking myself over, is that I never got the irish names of a loads of places when I was doing surveys. I loath the thought of going around all of Galway again to get this detail so if anyone wishs to add info for their area in Irish by all means go ahead, just use "name:ga" instead of "name" and you feed directly into an all irish version of the worldwide map which, unfortunately, is extremely sparse at the moment0 -
Just a quick update on this, or maybe its an end of year summary lol
I have finished adding all residential areas that I could find information for (sign's, querries to people passing by, etc).
Any residential roads remaining with no details are ones that I could not get info for at the time of surveying so if people wouldn't mind taking a quick look at their area on the map and let me know if I have mapped anything in error or even better provide information for unmapped parts. In particular I have had a great deal of trouble getting details for apartment blocks as many do not have any signage whatsoever so any help in that regard is appreciated.
With regards further mapping of Galway city, I have moved on to collecting all info I can for businesses, especially where there are clusters of industrial, commercial or retail premises. You can view my progress here. Incidentally, the ones marked pending were all collected today in the space of 45 mins along with everything on Eyre Street using an Android app called OSMTracker using a combination of voice recording and pictures just incase anyone is curious about the methodology
On the list for the new year are bus routes so if anyone feels like adding bus stops and route numbers to the stops I would greatly appreciate it. This will facilitate the use of existing transportation apps for Galway city for your smartphone :cool:
I also plan on putting all cycle lanes, paths, parking etc into the map in the new year so if the Galway cycling folks on this board already have data collected I would really appreciate you sending it my way as it would speed up the process 100 fold. Once this is done it should be possible to use navigation routing for your Sunday cycle
Many thanks to all the folks who have added data to OSM for Galway, as Tesco say "Every little helps" 0 -
Out of curiosity I ran some reports on ITOWorld to see what I could find out for Galway with regards to Openstreetmap over the last 12 months. The results really surprised me.
A total of 83 people (honestly thought this figure was going to be in the 20's, maybe 30's :eek:) have made some addition/change/deletion to the map of Galway city in the last 12 months as seen in the image below
Blue indicates 12+ months old data, every other colour is as indicated in the legend in the top left. Larger version of same image attached incase anyone wants a closer look0 -
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