Farming Chit Chat

bob charles · 30-10-2012 11:24PM

Mycoplasma? would think it would be strange in a small herd of animals. Maybe this is why your vet has decided to put them on Draxxin. have you seen any of the animals die in front of you? what are the symptoms or anything out of the norm

In cases like this its often best to get a couple of vets to examine the animals and see if they are coming up with anything else. Its a horrible feeling when your afraid to face the yard in the morning not knowing what is going to greet you. Have the T shirt unfortunately.

whats the time frame of the last 3 deaths? within a week of each other?
Botulism? would presume not as it shows no symptoms just death. Chicken litter spread on lands nearby or chicken houses close by?

whelan1 · 31-10-2012 05:39AM

Botulism is what i was thinking too... as they are in 3 different groups the lead posioning would be hard to blame, was it actual blackleg vaccine or tribovax t you used?

blue5000 · 31-10-2012 08:31AM

Jassus chippy reading just do it's post above, you are going through hell.
Is it only since silage was started that they started dying?

whelan1 · 31-10-2012 09:15AM

absolutely hate bad time keeping. lad i have working does 3 day week from 6.50 am til 6pm... has breakfast and lunch hour... anyways no sign at 8.30 am:mad: typical i was going to have a bit of a lie on til 7 as one of the kids has been up every night since last wednesday... his excuse " my alarm didnt go off" now for 3 mornings i dont think it would kill him to be here on time.....:mad:

td5man · 31-10-2012 01:34PM

whelan1 wrote: »

absolutely hate bad time keeping. lad i have working does 3 day week from 6.50 am til 6pm... has breakfast and lunch hour... anyways no sign at 8.30 am:mad: typical i was going to have a bit of a lie on til 7 as one of the kids has been up every night since last wednesday... his excuse " my alarm didnt go off" now for 3 mornings i dont think it would kill him to be here on time.....:mad:

Jeez your a hard woman the lad was probably out last night.

bbam · 31-10-2012 01:38PM

whelan1 wrote: »

Botulism is what i was thinking too... as they are in 3 different groups the lead posioning would be hard to blame, was it actual blackleg vaccine or tribovax t you used?

We lost two lovely healthy heifers this summer, within two weeks after not loosing an animal in years. The vet suspected botulism and so we did a PM. Both animals went down and died with 2 hours from grazing, stomachs full of fresh grass.
Results came back as "white muscle disease" in the heart and spleen enlarged, animal not from the same herd.
Possibly from selenium difficency is what the information came back as. Administered multi vit and have multi vit licks with them since and no problems.

It accounted a 10% stock loss for us after not loosing an animal for years. Feckin madnening.

whelan1 · 31-10-2012 01:49PM

td5man wrote: »

Jeez your a hard woman the lad was probably out last night.

I am paying his wages. Whats the point if I have to the wwork myself

td5man · 31-10-2012 01:54PM

whelan1 wrote: »

I am paying his wages. Whats the point if I have to the wwork myself

Thought that was the way it worked most of the lads i had working were like that

naughto · 31-10-2012 02:04PM

to lighten the mood in here has any of ye played this
i ahem downloaded this last night is good craic my laptop is struggling with it tho.if any 1 wants the links to it u will have to pm me as i will get baned for posting links.

ps am i the only 1 that thought whealen 1 WAS A MAN;););)

http://www.farming-simulator.com/

whelan1 · 31-10-2012 02:04PM

td5man wrote: »

Thought that was the way it worked most of the lads i had working were like that

very hard to get a good reliable lad...(that wont break everything in the place and wont back chat you)

Muckit · 31-10-2012 02:22PM

naughto wrote: »

ps am i the only 1 that thought whealen 1 WAS A MAN;););)

Jaysus Naughto, don't ever go to Thailand lad!!

naughto · 31-10-2012 03:56PM

it shows how much i pay attention to peoples posts.so iam in charge this week the boss aka my brother is gone away so does any 1 want to buy my/his cattle:D:D

13spanner · 31-10-2012 04:24PM

I was looking through DoneDeal and I came across this lady, lovely tractor

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/3989966

bbam · 31-10-2012 06:14PM

13spanner wrote: »

I was looking through DoneDeal and I came across this lady, lovely tractor

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/3989966

I'm sure the jumpleads are for starting his other tractor

mf240 · 31-10-2012 07:12PM

Muckit wrote: »

Jaysus Naughto, don't ever go to Thailand lad!!

Ya you could be looking for a hole and find a shovel:D

naughto · 31-10-2012 07:12PM

its amazing what a bit of paint will do

naughto · 31-10-2012 07:21PM

Muckit wrote: »

Jaysus Naughto, don't ever go to Thailand lad!!

ive being in thailand a gang of us when a few yrs back it was so hard to know what had a d1ck :eek::eek::eek:and what dident.so the best thing to do was not go near any of them

1chippy · 31-10-2012 07:45PM

some answers. started before silage was opened. there is two chicken farmers beside us, one adjoining. tribovax t was used. deaths were happening with some giving notice others none whatso ever. as i said about the last one, he died while i was having a cuppa.

i got a preliminary pm back, where they said the liver and stomach was perfect, they actually said i should be pleased with how good of condition they were in. They also said the lungs were riddled with something which they hope to have an answer to in a few days.
i have came to a sort of a conclusion, which may be completly wrong but i'm fairly sure what it is and where it came from.
I bought bulling heifers from a dealer in Roscommon earlier in the year. I then bought springers of another man who, by pure chance told me about how he had bought of the same fella and all the animals he had bought ended up going down on him. we worked out that they had been from the same batch as the ones i bought. anyways what he got that time and what i have now are just too similar to be coincidental. I have been trying to get in touch to see how things panned out for him, but no answer.

keep going · 31-10-2012 10:56PM

anyone else doing some last minute accounting:o

J DEERE · 31-10-2012 11:04PM

1chippy wrote: »

some answers. started before silage was opened. there is two chicken farmers beside us, one adjoining. tribovax t was used. deaths were happening with some giving notice others none whatso ever. as i said about the last one, he died while i was having a cuppa.

i got a preliminary pm back, where they said the liver and stomach was perfect, they actually said i should be pleased with how good of condition they were in. They also said the lungs were riddled with something which they hope to have an answer to in a few days.
i have came to a sort of a conclusion, which may be completly wrong but i'm fairly sure what it is and where it came from.
I bought bulling heifers from a dealer in Roscommon earlier in the year. I then bought springers of another man who, by pure chance told me about how he had bought of the same fella and all the animals he had bought ended up going down on him. we worked out that they had been from the same batch as the ones i bought. anyways what he got that time and what i have now are just too similar to be coincidental. I have been trying to get in touch to see how things panned out for him, but no answer.

Unbelievable. Just goes to show the risk that exists with buying in stock. Like yourself, we have and are buying in heifers for breeding. Its always a fear in the back of your mind that something might come in with them. Im hoping to be working with a closed herd from next year on. Hope ya get to the root of the problem soon Chippy and its easily sorted

pakalasa · 01-11-2012 08:23AM

Keep us informed Chippy. A lot of people intrigued by this one.

Black Smoke · 01-11-2012 08:40AM

pakalasa wrote: »

Keep us informed Chippy. A lot of people intrigued by this one.

If this turns out to have been a bought in problem, I'll definitely proceed with my plan for 100% maternal bull on my cows!

FarmerWatch · 01-11-2012 09:57AM

1chippy wrote: »

some answers. started before silage was opened. there is two chicken farmers beside us, one adjoining. tribovax t was used. deaths were happening with some giving notice others none whatso ever. as i said about the last one, he died while i was having a cuppa.

i got a preliminary pm back, where they said the liver and stomach was perfect, they actually said i should be pleased with how good of condition they were in. They also said the lungs were riddled with something which they hope to have an answer to in a few days.
i have came to a sort of a conclusion, which may be completly wrong but i'm fairly sure what it is and where it came from.
I bought bulling heifers from a dealer in Roscommon earlier in the year. I then bought springers of another man who, by pure chance told me about how he had bought of the same fella and all the animals he had bought ended up going down on him. we worked out that they had been from the same batch as the ones i bought. anyways what he got that time and what i have now are just too similar to be coincidental. I have been trying to get in touch to see how things panned out for him, but no answer.

Sorry to hear you've been having such a rough time 1chippy. Hopefully now at least you'll get some answers.

whelan1 · 01-11-2012 10:41AM

1chippy wrote: »

some answers. started before silage was opened. there is two chicken farmers beside us, one adjoining. tribovax t was used. deaths were happening with some giving notice others none whatso ever. as i said about the last one, he died while i was having a cuppa.

i got a preliminary pm back, where they said the liver and stomach was perfect, they actually said i should be pleased with how good of condition they were in. They also said the lungs were riddled with something which they hope to have an answer to in a few days.
i have came to a sort of a conclusion, which may be completly wrong but i'm fairly sure what it is and where it came from.
I bought bulling heifers from a dealer in Roscommon earlier in the year. I then bought springers of another man who, by pure chance told me about how he had bought of the same fella and all the animals he had bought ended up going down on him. we worked out that they had been from the same batch as the ones i bought. anyways what he got that time and what i have now are just too similar to be coincidental. I have been trying to get in touch to see how things panned out for him, but no answer.

did you contact the mart you bought them from?

just do it · 02-11-2012 12:40AM

1chippy wrote: »

I bought bulling heifers from a dealer in Roscommon earlier in the year. I then bought springers of another man who, by pure chance told me about how he had bought of the same fella and all the animals he had bought ended up going down on him. we worked out that they had been from the same batch as the ones i bought. anyways what he got that time and what i have now are just too similar to be coincidental.

Is it only these ones that have been affected? I thought it was younger stock/ weanlings for some reason and was going to ask had you bought-in stock which maybe brought in a virus/ bvd with them!

Qualitymark · 02-11-2012 05:58AM

BBC Radio 4's excellent early-morning farming programme had a piece this morning about feeding brassicas to ruminants to reduce e coli. (A Scottish study - http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/business-sales/trendsprices/brassicas-reduce-ecoli-0157-x.18871783 - found that letting sheep graze on turnips and brassicas significantly reduced the level of e coli.)

A longer piece about this: http://www.qmscotland.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1174%3Anew-research-shows-feeding-brassicas-may-reduce-ecoli-o157-in-sheep&catid=34%3Anews-and-events&Itemid=71

And you can listen back to the programme (well worth downloading as a podcast) here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qj8q

Muckit · 02-11-2012 07:41AM

td5man · 02-11-2012 08:34AM

Muckit wrote: »

Didn't know you could still get a print edition of the journal thats so old fashioned lol

pakalasa · 02-11-2012 08:57AM

You mean the Charolais sale date. I never spotted that. I wonder has Justin taken over the editors job yet?:D

pakalasa · 02-11-2012 09:00AM

Would it be possible to set up a calender for upcoming farm events? Everything from Breed Society Sales to Teagasc Information nights, etc etc

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