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Muckit · 28-10-2012 11:06AM

Richk2012 wrote: »

Charlaois cow calved yesterday at lunch time .
The first Crossmolina Euro CSQ calf ive had .

It was the calf's navel spraying blood . It was pumping out that fast it was making a noise as it hit the straw on the floor of the shed .
Luckily there was two of us there and i clamped it wit my hand while we tied it up.
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Never seen this happen Rich. Lucky calf is right! He's be a goner otherwise!

1chippy · 28-10-2012 11:16AM

Dont think its blackleg. seems to be no swelling above normal for a dead animal. seen him last night and no bother on him at all. noticed a couple of the other weanlings snotting at the nose this morning aswell. all were vaccinated in september so ay call vet out just to be on the safe side. we went extreme on dosing and vaccinating this year, so i'm hoping theres no serious underlying problems.

whelan1 · 28-10-2012 11:20AM

Muckit wrote: »

Richk2012 wrote: »

Charlaois cow calved yesterday at lunch time .
The first Crossmolina Euro CSQ calf ive had .

It was the calf's navel spraying blood . It was pumping out that fast it was making a noise as it hit the straw on the floor of the shed .
Luckily there was two of us there and i clamped it wit my hand while we tied it up.
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Never seen this happen Rich. Lucky calf is right! He's be a goner otherwise!

a clothes peg will stop the bleeding, not a wooden one , a plastic one is normally cleaner

L driver · 28-10-2012 11:22AM

1chippy wrote: »

lovely morning back today. arrived into yard to find a super u grading bull weanling stretched out cold. thats 6 of this years calves gone this year. hopefully i will get him in to be tested up north tomorrow.

too tired to get up?

1chippy · 28-10-2012 11:40AM

L driver wrote: »

too tired to get up?

what?

L driver · 28-10-2012 11:45AM

1chippy wrote: »

what?

6 calves? perhaps the op is too tired to get up? might be reading it wrong.

1chippy · 28-10-2012 11:52AM

maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions. thats 6 out of 45 this year. i'm up at anytime between 5.30 and 6.30 at anytime of the week.
two cases were pneumonia (both on twins), one bvd, one blackleg and the last two i dont know. do you really think you have the right to put it down to laziness when you dont have a notion how i work.

keep going · 28-10-2012 12:03PM

tidied up our computer cabinet this morning( hence all the posts),g wizz its grand to be tidy every now and again

L driver · 28-10-2012 12:39PM

1chippy wrote: »

maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions. thats 6 out of 45 this year. i'm up at anytime between 5.30 and 6.30 at anytime of the week.
two cases were pneumonia (both on twins), one bvd, one blackleg and the last two i dont know. do you really think you have the right to put it down to laziness when you dont have a notion how i work.

how do you train the cows to calve from 5.30 on? I suppose 14% ain't too bad.

1chippy · 28-10-2012 12:53PM

you really dont have a clue l driver do you. where did i state any deaths at calving?
14% is way too high especially the fact they were on the ground alive.

does anyone have the contact details for the lab in omagh or do you know if they have to be booked in prior to dropping off?

Richk2012 · 28-10-2012 03:39PM

Muckit wrote: »

Richk2012 wrote: »

Charlaois cow calved yesterday at lunch time .
The first Crossmolina Euro CSQ calf ive had .

It was the calf's navel spraying blood . It was pumping out that fast it was making a noise as it hit the straw on the floor of the shed .
Luckily there was two of us there and i clamped it wit my hand while we tied it up.
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Never seen this happen Rich. Lucky calf is right! He's be a goner otherwise!

I know , suppose ya have to to be due odd bit of luck now and again :cool:

Richk2012 · 28-10-2012 03:42PM

1chippy wrote: »

maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions. thats 6 out of 45 this year. i'm up at anytime between 5.30 and 6.30 at anytime of the week.
two cases were pneumonia (both on twins), one bvd, one blackleg and the last two i dont know. do you really think you have the right to put it down to laziness when you dont have a notion how i work.

Sorry to hear bout the bad luck your havin this year chippy ..
Did the dam of the bvd calf get tested when it showed up positive??

Muckit · 28-10-2012 08:57PM

bob charles wrote: »

are you wrecked from all the going, bet the lady has drastically changed already for the lady you married

Wrecked from 'all the goin' ?... that could be read a few ways!!

Travelling, airports etc always wreckin'. Plus when I go away I always want to be on the move and trying to see it all.

RE 'the lady drastically changin'.... no bob, no

God your very cynical! Hang in there, and if you spend as much time out 'chasing tail' as you do around the ring you'I eventually find a young one willing to wash your socks

Bizzum · 28-10-2012 10:29PM

Welcome back Muckit & Chippy.

I'm reminded of a quote from Oscar Wilde of marriage:

"Damn it,sir,it is your duty to get married. You can't be always living for pleasure."

wesleysniper38 · 28-10-2012 10:46PM

L driver wrote: »

how do you train the cows to calve from 5.30 on? I suppose 14% ain't too bad.

1Chippy thats a bad run. I had 5 and a cow from 26 when I was keeping sucklers and it put me away from them eventually.
Similar stuff but mostly illness/complications from calves born weak. Some of them struggled on for weeks. All the tests in the world carried out showed up clear. One cow then dropped dead with a weak heart to top it off.
Like yourself I missed no calvings either. That was 2009 and bad trade at the marts put me well into the red. Still you have to battle on. That buck above is a winderupper methinks :rolleyes:

jimmy G M · 28-10-2012 10:52PM

Lads Best way to remember your anniversary is .......... forget it once!

Bizzum wrote: »

Welcome back Muckit & Chippy.

I'm reminded of a quote from Oscar Wilde of marriage:

"Damn it,sir,it is your duty to get married. You can't be always living for pleasure."

Kovu · 28-10-2012 11:10PM

gozunda wrote: »

Ivy? Can you elaborate on this?

As was previously said, ivy contains a lot of nutrients and cattle naturally go for it. Easiest thing to train cattle to walk for a show with;)

just do it wrote: »

Who told you it was acid buid-up, your vet? Bicarbonate is good to neutralise acid i.e. dose her with bread soda and even if it does nothing for her, it won't do her any harm;)

I sweetened her nuts with sugar and she ate them, slowly but she's coming round.

dar31 · 28-10-2012 11:12PM

jimmy G M wrote: »

Lads Best way to remember your anniversary is .......... forget it once!

done that, not the best of moves
however herself forgot this year, so i how hold a very special get out of jail free card

Muckit · 28-10-2012 11:15PM

jimmy G M wrote: »

Lads Best way to remember your anniversary is .......... forget it once!

12-10-12 is mine. Not too hard to remember.

If I had my way I'd have got married the 18th of June.... 18-6-12 !!

Muckit · 28-10-2012 11:17PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I sweetened her nuts with sugar and she ate them, slowly but she's coming round.

That's more '50 shades' than Oscar Wilde !

Kovu · 28-10-2012 11:21PM

Muckit wrote: »

That's more '50 shades' than Oscar Wilde !

I.......have no smart answer.

Fair play sir:p

p.s.- smart answer= 'then'

darragh_haven · 29-10-2012 10:01AM

Muckit wrote: »

12-10-12 is mine. Not too hard to remember.

If I had my way I'd have got married the 18th of June.... 18-6-12 !!

I don't know how herself will take it if I suggest 10-10-20 for a wedding date........

bradachu · 29-10-2012 10:55AM

My dad alway used a good smear of marking fluid on the breastbone of the ram as raddle. I bought a harness and block raddle. Any opinions on which lasts longest? ( I know I'll find out soon enough, but outside info never goes amiss!)

Dont be daft · 29-10-2012 12:00PM

L driver wrote: »

6 calves? perhaps the op is too tired to get up? might be reading it wrong.

F*ckin cheek of ya:mad:

A statement like that when you literally know nothing about the man.

Dont be daft · 29-10-2012 12:04PM

Muckit wrote: »

12-10-12 is mine. Not too hard to remember.

If I had my way I'd have got married the 18th of June.... 18-6-12 !!

Friend of mine's no. for the leaving cert was 10-10-20.

He ran around the hall looking for a desk with 18-6-12 on it the day of the 1st exam:D

freedominacup · 29-10-2012 01:54PM

Dont be daft wrote: »

He ran around the hall looking for a desk with 18-6-12 on it the day of the 1st exam:D

Of course he did. Not projecting in any way?;)

1chippy · 29-10-2012 05:35PM

We couldnt get the calf into lab this morning so we still headed north and got levafas diamond and multi trace boluses

weanlings were dosed for worms with panacur around 6 weeks back
everything was dosed for fluke with tribex around 5 weeks back
everything got vacinations 4 weeks back ibr,bvd, etc
everything was dosed with levafas diamond for rumen fluke today

we are going to give everything a multi trace bolus next week.

Now whats missing at this stage or what are other peoples opinions, am i wasting my time here, overdoing or under doing anywhere.

i was thinking of maybe giving the whole lot an ivermectin in a couple of weeks.

some of the weanlings have actually failed since i was away, some were very skittery around the back end. most of the cows seem tight enough but like that the ones that are bad are bad. all the weanlings are coughing badly and we put in another one thats failing today.
any opinions. cheers chippy

whelan1 · 29-10-2012 05:59PM

would your vet not do a pm?

just do it · 29-10-2012 06:07PM

whelan1 wrote: »

would your vet not do a pm?

and a full herd investigation?

pakalasa · 29-10-2012 06:09PM

1Chippy,
Are the weanlings scoury, with a bad smell of it? It could be Rumen Fluke. Despite all the dosing and vaccinating you have done, you haven't covered stomach fluke. It could be anything really, who knows? Next step might be to wait on the PM results and talk with your vet. Let us know how you get on.

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