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just do it · 25-10-2012 09:27PM

Sold 3 dry cows at mart today.

6yo CH ready to kill. 725kg made €1,020
4yo LM 545kg made €920
2y6m CH who'd the worst weanling this Spring made €825 (470kg).

All 3 weaned about 5 weeks and on 2kg of meal/day since. First ready to kill, 2nd could do with a small bit more and 3rd needs more, or might have been bought for breeding (I hope not!).

adne · 25-10-2012 09:40PM

just do it wrote: »

Sold 3 dry cows at mart today.
6yo CH ready to kill. 725kg made €1,020

4yo LM 545kg made €920

2y6m CH who'd the worst weanling this Spring made €825 (470kg).

All 3 weaned about 5 weeks and on 2kg of meal/day since. First ready to kill, 2nd could do with a small bit more and 3rd needs more, or might have been bought for breeding (I hope not!).

a 470 kg ch that had a calf on her all summer. something wrong there me thinks

just do it · 25-10-2012 09:51PM

adne wrote: »

a 470 kg ch that had a calf on her all summer. something wrong there me thinks

Not really. She calved at 23m but was only bred as I'm increasing numbers. She was weaned early and not put back in-calf. She calved herself so it can't be said she was too young, small etc. She just isn't good enough quality. Females that calf at 2yo remain behind in weight between 2 and 3yo but by 4yo they have caught up. And if they remain as a cow they've produced one extra weanling over their lifetime.

limo_100 · 25-10-2012 09:59PM

just do it wrote: »

Not really. She calved at 23m but was only bred as I'm increasing numbers. She was weaned early and not put back in-calf. She calved herself so it can't be said she was too young, small etc. She just isn't good enough quality. Females that calf at 2yo remain behind in weight between 2 and 3yo but by 4yo they have caught up. And if they remain as a cow they've produced one each weanling over their lifetime.

i always wait and leave to calf at 3year old. In my experience if they get bulled to young they end up staying small and butty and never catch up. Im not able to get them to grow much once there bulled

just do it · 25-10-2012 10:13PM

limo_100 wrote: »

i always wait and leave to calf at 3year old. In my experience if they get bulled to young they end up staying small and butty and never catch up. Im not able to get them to grow much once there bulled

Surely that's not a bad thing if they're job in life is to reproduce? They're genetic merit is the same regardless?

just do it · 25-10-2012 10:17PM

One thing I'd say is I was surprised at their weights. I thought they were all a bit heavier by 50-100kg each. It's pushing me towards getting a weighing scales sooner rather than later

limo_100 · 25-10-2012 10:17PM

just do it wrote: »

Surely that's not a bad thing if they're job in life is to reproduce? They're genetic merit is the same regardless?

I no what you mean but it never works out like that they'd always have smaller calves and end up getting culled off after a couple of years. dont think any of is gona get it right all the time

just do it · 25-10-2012 10:37PM

limo_100 wrote: »

I no what you mean but it never works out like that they'd always have smaller calves and end up getting culled off after a couple of years. dont think any of is gona get it right all the time

I decided this year to split the cows calving and have 2 distinct 9wk periods at autumn and spring. One of the advantages of this I see is having springers calf down at 30m.

adne · 26-10-2012 06:35AM

just do it wrote: »

I decided this year to split the cows calving and have 2 distinct 9wk periods at autumn and spring. One of the advantages of this I see is having springers calf down at 30m.

You will see the merits of this, there can be a big difference in weight and size between a heifer at 23 months and 30 months especially continental heifers they really flex out from 20 months to 30 months

leg wax · 26-10-2012 06:41AM

just do it wrote: »

One thing I'd say is I was surprised at their weights. I thought they were all a bit heavier by 50-100kg each. It's pushing me towards getting a weighing scales sooner rather than later

so if you had known their weight would you have kept them for longer?

just do it · 26-10-2012 07:12AM

leg wax wrote: »

so if you had known their weight would you have kept them for longer?

Not this year. I'd to get rid of a few to make the silage last. Otherwise I would have.

gozunda · 26-10-2012 07:17AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Cow-heifer for killing that's getting 4 saucepans of nuts a day stopped eating them today. Build up of acid or her stomach off sorts? She's getting plenty of silage ad-lib too. Gave her a good heap of ivy there now to see if it may be mineral lacking. Any ideas?

Ivy? Can you elaborate on this?

Richk2012 · 26-10-2012 07:57AM

Charlaois cow calved yesterday at lunch time .
The first Crossmolina Euro CSQ calf ive had .
Decent size heifer calf but nothing extreme .

Checked both of them at around 4ish and realised calf still hadnt sucked .
Got both of them into shed and gave cow a handful of meal in bucket , although she that quiet she would stand regardless .

Got the calf sucking and after about two minutes i heard a sort of hissing noise .
Looked to see was it the cow pis*ing but her tail wasnt raised .
It was the calf's navel spraying blood . It was pumping out that fast it was making a noise as it hit the straw on the floor of the shed .
Luckily there was two of us there and i clamped it wit my hand while we tied it up.

Iv had cows in the past that have pulled the cord out of the calf while cleaning them off , and the calves had bled out .
But never have i seen it happen with no warning such as yesterday .
Any one else ever expierence this ???

Qualitymark · 26-10-2012 08:57AM

Today's Irishman's Diary is about the unique style of farming in the Burren http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/1026/1224325734721.html

pakalasa · 26-10-2012 09:06AM

Some weather we're having eh? Must be well over a week since it rained here. Ideal weather for weaning calves. Once the first two nights were over, they all settled down. Can't beat cold dry crispy weather to keep pneumonia at bay.

Muckit · 26-10-2012 09:54AM

l'm back!
thanks for all the well wishes guys n gals.on herselves I phone on bus back from airport. Will reply better once I get my hands on a laptop

bob charles · 26-10-2012 11:10AM

Muckit wrote: »

l'm back!
thanks for all the well wishes guys n gals.on herselves I phone on bus back from airport. Will reply better once I get my hands on a laptop

ah b*****ks, taugh you wouldnt be back for ages yet:D. are you wrecked from all the going, bet the lady has drastically changed already for the lady you married

Username John · 26-10-2012 11:44AM

Muckit wrote: »

l'm back!
thanks for all the well wishes guys n gals.on herselves I phone on bus back from airport. Will reply better once I get my hands on a laptop

Welcome back Mr Muckit! The place wasn't the same without you

just do it · 26-10-2012 02:59PM

gozunda wrote: »

Ivy? Can you elaborate on this?

An old cure. A sick animal that won't eat anything else will often eat ivy. They say if she eats it she'll live, if not.......

just do it · 26-10-2012 03:02PM

Muckit wrote: »

l'm back!
thanks for all the well wishes guys n gals.on herselves I phone on bus back from airport. Will reply better once I get my hands on a laptop

Well had you a good time? Your just back in time to get the slurry out before the extended deadline of Oct 31st

just do it · 26-10-2012 03:10PM

Now that I've mentioned slurry, I've just emptied a half tank yesterday. It was fully emptied during the summer so it just indicates the amount of time the cattle have been in the last 3 months :rolleyes:

gozunda · 26-10-2012 05:21PM

just do it wrote: »

An old cure. A sick animal that won't eat anything else will often eat ivy. They say if she eats it she'll live, if not.......

Interesting stuff. I always took that ivy was poisoness to animals. But if they eat it as a form of purge I can understand that.

1chippy · 27-10-2012 04:58PM

Got back aswell today. got off the plane and home to stick in the last of the cows. found nearly all the weanlings coughing badly so dosed a share of them and i'll get the rest on Monday.

just do it · 27-10-2012 05:14PM

1chippy wrote: »

Got back aswell today. got off the plane and home to stick in the last of the cows. found nearly all the weanlings coughing badly so dosed a share of them and i'll get the rest on Monday.

Nothing like farming to "ground" you! Welcome back and hope you'd a great time

just do it · 27-10-2012 05:16PM

Saw a trailer load of freshly made silage bales on the road today. Sad thing is it may be better than some of the stuff made during the summer

1chippy · 28-10-2012 10:05AM

lovely morning back today. arrived into yard to find a super u grading bull weanling stretched out cold. thats 6 of this years calves gone this year. hopefully i will get him in to be tested up north tomorrow.

Muckit · 28-10-2012 10:46AM

1chippy wrote: »

lovely morning back today. arrived into yard to find a super u grading bull weanling stretched out cold.

That's a balls chippy. As you say be good to know what happened him... timber tongue?

1chippy · 28-10-2012 10:54AM

Muckit wrote: »

That's a balls chippy. As you say be good to know what happened him... timber tongue?

whats timber tongue? how did the honeymoon go or where did you head?

Muckit · 28-10-2012 10:56AM

just do it wrote: »

Well had you a good time? Your just back in time to get the slurry out before the extended deadline of Oct 31st

Great time now thanks. Back to reality now with a bang

Got slurry out there in Sept just do it, thank God. Would be some tracks if left it til now.

Have a few yearling heifers still out on drier ground. They are making a good job of cleaning up with almost zero poaching, rotating around on 6 paddocks. Will be brought in next Saturday- 3 Nov... not bad for our land.

I was very surprised at all the fields of baled silage made when coming down through Meath from Dublin. It'I all be needed I hear if the postman is correct.

Muckit · 28-10-2012 11:03AM

1chippy wrote: »

whats timber tongue?

http://cattletoday.info/wooden_tongue.htm

thinking about it again, it's more likely blackleg!

http://cattletoday.info/blackleg.htm

But it's all speculation and guesswork until you get a lab onto it. I (and I'm sure others here) will be interested to hear what the cause was.

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