Leg-Lengthening Surgery

Bruthal · 25-10-2012 09:53PM

username123 wrote: »

What if the rapists and attackers start having leg lengthening surgeries!!

We will be fucked

Pat Mustard · 25-10-2012 09:54PM

UCDVet wrote: »

Tall people are more attractive and earn more money.

The following article supports your statement. At one point, it states:

...an individual who is 72in. tall would be predicted to earn almost $166,000 more across a 30-year career than an individual who is 65in. tall.

p.437

Very dull article, but it's here for anyone who wants to plod through it.http://faculty.washington.edu/mdj3/MGMT580/Readings/Week%201/Judge.pdf
Judge & Cable, Journal of Applied Psychology, 2004

validusername1 · 25-10-2012 09:59PM

I think it's too extreme but at the end of the day he wouldn't be doing it if his insecurity about his current height wasn't ruining his life.. Well that's my opinion anyway.

It's hard to say if I'd do it myself if I was small. I doubt I would 'cause it could probably go very wrong. I don't know much about the surgery but if it wasn't a bit dodgy you'd think it'd be more heard of, but who knows.

I'm an 18 year old girl and I'm 5'6''. I like my height, it's never been something I've paid attention to tbh 'cause I've never had an issue with it. Sometimes I do count myself lucky that the things I'm insecure about are things I can change.. even though they do take over my life I still have the option to change them.. although he has the surgery option it's hardly in everyone's reach.. good luck to him anyway

Eriopis · 25-10-2012 10:00PM

The Mustard wrote: »

The following article supports your statement. At one point, it states:
p.437

Very dull article, but it's here for anyone who wants to plod through it.http://faculty.washington.edu/mdj3/MGMT580/Readings/Week%201/Judge.pdf
Judge & Cable, Journal of Applied Psychology, 2004

I'd imagine numerous causative factors would be involved though, besides just height on its own.

For example, optimal childhood nutrition would cause a person to reach their full potential height, as well as boosting cognitive abilities as well, and thus leading that person on to having more academic or business success. So increased height in that case would be an secondary symptom of the more successful person, rather that the actual cause of that success.

TouchingVirus · 25-10-2012 10:06PM

After a motorcycle accident and a broken thigh that left my left leg shorter than my right by just over an inch I researched this thoroughly. You can use external fixation devices like the Ilizarov frame to distract. They're unsightly things and the fact you've an open wound where the bars go into your bone through the skin means pin site infections are incredibly common. Then you can use internal devices like the IKSD that remove that pin-site risk and external fixator unsightliness but still have their drawbacks since they're less controllable. I flew to Scotland a few times to see a surgeon about the IKSD such was my interest but aside from him, every other orthopedic surgeon I saw advised me to just take the extra inch off my right leg if the discrepancy was bothering me because distraction has a long recovery (1mm length per day on average) and has a much, much higher chance of malunion/nonunion/bone infections. In the end I decided to just get on with life and deal with the consequences of the discrepancy later on.

You're looking at upwards of €12,000 over here for one leg.It's not the type of surgery I'd want done over in New Delhi on the cheap in any case as so much can go wrong. It's also not the type of surgery I'd consider for cosmetic reasons, if I never had the accident I'd never have wanted to get it done.

tayto lover · 25-10-2012 10:11PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

I can grow 6 inches of bone in a few seconds.

Hello Shorty

seamie87 · 25-10-2012 10:12PM

Good luck to your friend, lets hope it works out for him.

validusername1 · 25-10-2012 10:12PM

I hate when people say things like ''women prefer taller men'' or whatever as if it's a fact and as if we're all the same.

I'm a girl and I like guys to be around the same height as me. I know a lot of girls like taller guys but not all do so it's not worth arguing. Actually I don't even think its that I like guys to be the same height, I think it's just that I genuinely don't even care about height.. It makes no difference to me, you can be hot whether you're 5'6'' or 6'6''

off topic anyway

Pat Mustard · 25-10-2012 10:18PM

Eriopis wrote: »

I'd imagine numerous causative factors would be involved though, besides just height on its own.

For example, optimal childhood nutrition would cause a person to reach their full potential height, as well as boosting cognitive abilities as well, and thus leading that person on to having more academic or business success. So increased height in that case would be an secondary symptom of the more successful person, rather that the actual cause of that success.

What you write makes sense.

The authors said that although they were able to show the importance of height (in the workplace success scenario), they admitted that one of the limitations of their study was that causation still needed to be determined, and that further research was needed.

At the beginning of the 'discussion' part of their paper (p.437), they state:

We live in a society where physical appearance matters, not only because it affects how others respond to us but also affects how we view ourselves

UCDVet · 25-10-2012 10:20PM

validusername1 wrote: »

I hate when people say things like ''women prefer taller men'' or whatever as if it's a fact and as if we're all the same.

I'm a girl and I like guys to be around the same height as me. I know a lot of girls like taller guys but not all do so it's not worth arguing. Actually I don't even think its that I like guys to be the same height, I think it's just that I genuinely don't even care about height.. It makes no difference to me, you can be hot whether you're 5'6'' or 6'6''

off topic anyway

If someone says 'women prefer taller men' they mean 'most women generally prefer taller men, all other things being equal'.

Having said that - the average man is normally somewhere between 5'9" and 5'10" in Ireland according to most studies; which makes your range of 5'6" to 6'6" skewed towards taller than average men :cool:

Pat Mustard · 25-10-2012 10:23PM

validusername1 wrote: »

I'm a girl and I like guys to be around the same height as me. I know a lot of girls like taller guys but not all do so it's not worth arguing.

You are entitled to your opinion.

However, the research results show that a man's height is important both to his job success and in relation to his success with women.

Eriopis · 25-10-2012 10:30PM

The Mustard wrote: »

You are entitled to your opinion.

However, the research results show that a man's height is important both to his job success and in relation to his success with women.

.. or both could simply be related to self-confidence. As per your quote above (how people see themselves).
Self confidence is attractive, and being tall isn't a prerequisite for that, although being tall may conversely boost self-confidence as per your quote (along with many other factors though).
Still wouldn't help the OPs friend though, as having leg-lengthening surgery performed very much underscores the persons original insecurities.

UCDVet · 25-10-2012 10:35PM

Eriopis wrote: »

.. or both could simply be related to self-confidence. As per your quote above (how people see themselves).
Self confidence is attractive, and being tall isn't a prerequisite for that, although being tall may conversely boost self-confidence as per your quote (along with many other factors though).
Still wouldn't help the OPs friend though, as having leg-lengthening surgery performed very much underscores the persons original insecurities.

The sad thing is, I think you are being serious.

Eriopis · 25-10-2012 10:37PM

UCDVet wrote: »

The sad thing is, I think you are being serious.

Yes, terribly, terribly serious.

Pat Mustard · 25-10-2012 10:47PM

Eriopis wrote: »

.. or both could simply be related to self-confidence. As per your quote above (how people see themselves).
Self confidence is attractive, and being tall isn't a prerequisite for that, although being tall may conversely boost self-confidence as per your quote (along with many other factors though).

There is a study which shows that described height is among the factors which increase positive response by females in advertisements by males in 'the human mate market'.http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138%2801%2900092-7/abstract

Only abstract, didn't locate full article.

Eriopis wrote: »

Still wouldn't help the OPs friend though, as having leg-lengthening surgery performed very much underscores the persons original insecurities.

For all we know, he might leap outta bed, six or seven months post surgery, a happy, confident, strapping man of five foot six or seven. All of his problems might be solved by his new mighty stature!

Capt'n Midnight · 26-10-2012 03:06AM

jill_valentine wrote: »

It's got a much more gruelling recovery process, as near as I can tell, but is it actually more dangerous?

Oh yes.

Bone is broken and set so bones are close but not touching, the screws are turned over time so there is always a small gap for bone to grow into. The weight on your bones is transferred to metal rods that go through your skin above the break and back in again below the break

TouchingVirus wrote: »

You can use external fixation devices like the Ilizarov frame to distract. They're unsightly things and the fact you've an open wound where the bars go into your bone through the skin means pin site infections are incredibly common. Then you can use internal devices like the IKSD that remove that pin-site risk and external fixator unsightliness but still have their drawbacks since they're less controllable.

Infections are not good. Infections with a possible path deep inside you are very not good.

If something happens to your leg bones you loose a lot of mobility and your quality of life will probably go through the floor.

stoneill · 26-10-2012 05:11AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

I can grow 6 inches of bone in a few seconds.

Is that all?

gozunda · 26-10-2012 07:11AM

UCDVet wrote: »

Studies have shown taller men people out-earn shorter people for doing the same job and are generally considered more attractive, more mature, more capable.

Height is also one of the most universally agreed upon measures of physical attractiveness. I'm sure a hundred e-chicks will tell me how I'm wrong and how once they dated a guy who was one inch shorter than them and they were totally okay with it.

But just about every scientific paper on the subject shows that height is very important in our society. Yes, yes, there is that one guy who is 5'2" and makes a billion euro. Good for him. Look at the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies compared to the median heights.

Which brings up the topic of heightism...

Referring to or making comments about, midgets, hobbits etc is discrimination - there are some tasteless examples of this even in this thread

And just as jokes about skin colour or other physical traits may have been in common usage it does not make them in any way acceptable

Ok people may laugh but I do believe that can be a serious issue to many people

From people I know those of below average size would appear to regularly experience a wide range of discriminatory behaviours that would be illegal for other physical traits such as skin colour, gender etc

Jokes, snide remarks and bullying seem to be just some of the behaviours that individuals experience on a regular basis

It's something that needs to be looked at and not just laughed at then perhaps individuals wouldn't feel the need to undertake such drastic action as that the OP outlined.

I don't agree with such radical surgery but as I do not know what this person has experienced I am in no position to judge him either

His confidence or lack of may very well have came about as a result of these type of behaviours. Certainly he appears to feel the need to take this course of action. Our feelings of self are often a reflection of how we are treated by others and where people experience discrimination or bullying such behaviours may be devastating to that person.

Imo It is unfortunate that people have to resort to in reality such pathetic behaviours to physically or mentally dominate others ...

If you are taller - well done you! But its not exactly a personal achievement is it? Any sense of perceived superiority by those taller than average is a bit of a joke. The studies outlined previously may show that taller individuals may be 'perceived' as better looking etc but this is simply perception and just as white people were once perceived as superior to all others these "perceptions' this can and should be challenged.

Canis Lupus · 26-10-2012 07:59AM

gozunda wrote: »

Which brings up the topic of heightism...

Referring to or making comments about, midgets, hobbits etc is discrimination - there are some tasteless examples of this even in this thread

And just as jokes about skin colour or other physical traits may have been in common usage it does not make them in any way acceptable

Ok people may laugh but I do believe that can be a serious issue to many people

From people I know those of below average size would appear to regularly experience a wide range of discriminatory behaviours that would be illegal for other physical traits such as skin colour, gender etc

Jokes, snide remarks and bullying seem to be just some of the behaviours that individuals experience on a regular basis

It's something that needs to be looked at and not just laughed at then perhaps individuals wouldn't feel the need to undertake such drastic action as that the OP outlined.

I don't agree with such radical surgery but as I do not know what this person has experienced I am in no position to judge him either

His confidence or lack of may very well have came about as a result of these type of behaviours. Certainly he appears to feel the need to take this course of action. Our feelings of self are often a reflection of how we are treated by others and where people experience discrimination or bullying such behaviours may be devastating to that person.

Imo It is unfortunate that people have to resort to in reality such pathetic behaviours to physically or mentally dominate others ...

If you are taller - well done you! But its not exactly a personal achievement is it? Any sense of perceived superiority by those taller than average is a bit of a joke. The studies outlined previously may show that taller individuals may be 'perceived' as better looking etc but this is simply perception and just as white people were once perceived as superior to all others these "perceptions' this can and should be challenged.

Could be worse, he could be short and a ginger....

gozunda · 26-10-2012 08:01AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Could be worse, he could be short and a ginger....

The comment says everything.Guess you must be about 6 foot 13 then? Congratulations obviously a superior individual ...

Canis Lupus · 26-10-2012 08:14AM

gozunda wrote: »

The comment says everything.Guess you must be about 6 foot 13 then? Congratulations obviously a superior individual ...

Why are small people always angry?

gozunda · 26-10-2012 08:25AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Why are small people always angry?

QED...

Why do some people make stupid comments?

Gauss · 26-10-2012 09:02AM

stoneill wrote: »

Is that all?

Assuming he has the average 3-4 inch flaccid penis 6 inches growth is impressive. That's a 9-10 inch penis. Surely that's big enough for you.

saiint · 26-10-2012 09:18AM

gozunda wrote: »

Which brings up the topic of heightism...

Referring to or making comments about, midgets, hobbits etc is discrimination - there are some tasteless examples of this even in this thread

And just as jokes about skin colour or other physical traits may have been in common usage it does not make them in any way acceptable

Ok people may laugh but I do believe that can be a serious issue to many people

From people I know those of below average size would appear to regularly experience a wide range of discriminatory behaviours that would be illegal for other physical traits such as skin colour, gender etc

Jokes, snide remarks and bullying seem to be just some of the behaviours that individuals experience on a regular basis

It's something that needs to be looked at and not just laughed at then perhaps individuals wouldn't feel the need to undertake such drastic action as that the OP outlined.

I don't agree with such radical surgery but as I do not know what this person has experienced I am in no position to judge him either

His confidence or lack of may very well have came about as a result of these type of behaviours. Certainly he appears to feel the need to take this course of action. Our feelings of self are often a reflection of how we are treated by others and where people experience discrimination or bullying such behaviours may be devastating to that person.

Imo It is unfortunate that people have to resort to in reality such pathetic behaviours to physically or mentally dominate others ...

If you are taller - well done you! But its not exactly a personal achievement is it? Any sense of perceived superiority by those taller than average is a bit of a joke. The studies outlined previously may show that taller individuals may be 'perceived' as better looking etc but this is simply perception and just as white people were once perceived as superior to all others these "perceptions' this can and should be challenged.

i bet you are small
reason your having a rant at tall people :P

Canis Lupus · 26-10-2012 09:21AM

saiint wrote: »

i bet you are small
reason your having a rant at tall people :P

Small people are so 'tallist'

I apologise. I really shouldn't stoop to that level...

gozunda · 26-10-2012 09:31AM

saiint wrote: »

i bet you are small
reason your having a rant at tall people :P

Do try and keep up - such derogatory remarks refer to all forms of discrimination whether short or tall.

How about adding some racist comments - see how that goes down....

saiint · 26-10-2012 09:34AM

gozunda wrote: »

And I bet you are 15 foot tall at least and your mammy loves you (cos no one else does!)

grow up :pac:

gozunda · 26-10-2012 09:36AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Small people are so 'tallist'

I apologise. I really shouldn't stoop to that level...

Heightism includes all forms of discrimination but then as you are quite obviously suffering from 'Big Man' syndrome or you are a superior being then you're feet don't actually touch the ground anyway. You didn't answer my last question btw why the 'need' to make derogatory comments - do you have a problem? Do share it should be interesting...

saiint · 26-10-2012 09:41AM

gozunda wrote: »

Heightism includes all forms of discrimination but then as you are quite obviously suffering from 'Big Man' syndrome or you are a superior being then you're feet don't actually touch the ground anyway. You didn't answer my last question btw why the 'need' to make derogatory comments - do you have a problem? Do share it should be interesting...

i recommend you make a small peoples petition
with the way your going on
it'll be run like the nazi's
getting all the tall people in concentration camps :pac: using your tiny fists of rage to beat the tall people
you sir are mean :pac: its the small people that bully

gozunda · 26-10-2012 09:48AM

saiint wrote: »

i recommend you make a small peoples petition
with the way your going on
it'll be run like the nazi's
getting all the tall people in concentration camps :pac: using your tiny fists of rage to beat the tall people
you sir are mean :pac: its the small people that bully

It is wonderful and in no way unenlightening that you can attempt to 'humour' the OPs post (thread) with terms such as 'nazis' concentration camps' etc. as suggested try placing your replies in terms of skin colour etc and see where that will get you.

Do reread and at least try to understand what this thread is concerned with. Your attempts at humour are puerile

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