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Garda Sergeant can't afford food

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  • #752
    Japer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    golden lane wrote: »

    a great big joke it is, to buy a house you cannot afford....

    lots of people bought houses they cannot afford, but most people are not in secure well paid and well-pensioned employment like the privilidged Garda seargant. Lucky him to have such a secure and well paid job, with a golden pension to look forward to after only 30 years service. What other "5/8s" in the world ( by which I mean an average enough person, no great university education etc ) automatically gets a pension worth €1,100,000 after only 30 years work?

    This country is a joke. Ask the retired gardai in their early 50's playing golf in their holiday homes in Portugal who are on big pensions and who are laughing at us.


  • #753
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Japer wrote: »
    lots of people bought houses they cannot afford, but most people are not in secure well paid and well-pensioned employment like the privilidged Garda seargant. Lucky him to have such a secure and well paid job, with a golden pension to look forward to after only 30 years service. What other "5/8s" in the world ( by which I mean an average enough person, no great university education etc ) automatically gets a pension worth €1,100,000 after only 30 years work?

    This country is a joke. Ask the retired gardai in their early 50's playing golf in their holiday homes in Portugal who are on big pensions and who are laughing at us.

    I'd say they do some damage to their holiday homes when their playing golf in them.


  • #754
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Japer wrote: »
    lots of people bought houses they cannot afford, but most people are not in secure well paid and well-pensioned employment like the privilidged Garda seargant. Lucky him to have such a secure and well paid job, with a golden pension to look forward to after only 30 years service. What other "5/8s" in the world ( by which I mean an average enough person, no great university education etc ) automatically gets a pension worth €1,100,000 after only 30 years work?

    This country is a joke. Ask the retired gardai in their early 50's playing golf in their holiday homes in Portugal who are on big pensions and who are laughing at us.

    it is easy to put a stop to that......that's what governments are for.......

    well, the greek government is.....


  • #755
    Rebelkell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Rebelkell


    After reading this thread and thinking along with alot of other people that the whole story is a stinker i am begining to wonder if the whole story has been put together to damage the public sector point of view. The story just doesn't add up and surely the unions would be better at bull****ting than this. They did negociate themselves croke park after all.


  • #756
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,101 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    This guy won't go bankrupt

    But isn't there some rule that if a garda goes bankrupt they are forced to resign?

    I had a quick search on this thread but nobody else mentioned it, maybe I have it wrong

    Not sure on what the outcome is, but it is in the code that you're not allowed to get into financial debt.


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  • #757
    jonsnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭jonsnow


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Not sure on what the outcome is, but it is in the code that you're not allowed to get into financial debt.

    You mean that you are not allowed to go bankrupt?.Surely you can nget into financial debt re credit cards, mortage ,loans etc.

    In relation to the bankruptcy thing has any garda in the history of the state ever lost their job because of this clause. I,ve never heard of it actually happening.


  • #758
    Japer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    jonsnow wrote: »
    In relation to the bankruptcy thing has any garda in the history of the state ever lost their job because of this clause. .
    I doubt it, because
    (a) its very difficult to go bankrupt if you are in the well paid, well pensioned and ultra secure employment of an Garda Siochana.
    (b) even teachers who do not teach do not lose their job in the Irish public service.


  • #759
    Angelmoon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 ✭Angelmoon


    if this story is true then maybe the Garda will think twice when turfing people from their homes along side the sheriff , and may understand more why people are demonstrating on the streets while the bankers are sipping champagne, they may finally understand the job they signed up to do was to protect and serve the people not bankers and corporations


  • #760
    Japer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    The judge, the Garda and the bankers are part of the same government paid elite, with government guaranteed jobs and pensions. All of them look outr for their own interests and earn much more than the average industrial wage,do not worry.


  • #761
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Ah here. Stop this madness.
    I was hearing stories of fellow guards who had so little money left after paying the mortgage that they were sleeping in their cars outside the station because they couldn’t afford the petrol to drive home.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2012/1019/1224325453675.html


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  • #762
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Must be an awful photo, he looks far older then 34


  • #763
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Aidric wrote: »
    Ah here. Stop this madness.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2012/1019/1224325453675.html

    He's taking the piss isn't he? Guess you can't take a bus on the southside. And who the fck drives to work without enough petrol to get home? Good riddance to those morons.


  • #764
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Aidric wrote: »
    Ah here. Stop this madness.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2012/1019/1224325453675.html

    It doesn't state how much he is paying for his mortgage in Australia;):D


  • #765
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Worked in admin in the public sector - shyte money; would have been way better in the private sector for the equivalent work. Public sector bashers: try to engage brain before launching into your bitter tirades.


  • #766
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Worked in admin in the public sector - shyte money; would have been way better in the private sector for the equivalent work. Public sector bashers: try to engage brain before launching into your bitter tirades.

    You can't use what you don't have. That's the essence of this thread really.


  • #767
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Worked in admin in the public sector - shyte money; would have been way better in the private sector for the equivalent work.

    Assuming you hadn't been made redundant like many in the private sector in the last 5 years. These people aren't protected by the Croke Park Agreement and don't have gold plated pensions to look forward to unfortunately.


  • #768
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    Aidric wrote: »
    Ah here. Stop this madness.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2012/1019/1224325453675.html


    "Officers who have been trained in other countries need to complete a 13-week transition course at the WA Police Academy in Joondalup before joining the force. The starting salary on offer will depend on the number of years experience the officer has, but a garda with three years’ experience will be granted $66,339 (€52,256) per year excluding allowances and overtime."


    The pay is good in Australia and we thought our guards were well paid.


  • #769
    Luca Brasi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Luca Brasi


    Ah leave it ouh Leave it ouh


  • #770
    Japer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    The average Guard in Ireland is paid double the average industrial wage in Ireland, and has a pension pot worth 1.1 million after only 30 years service. They are taking the pis*. Many got in to multiple property investments during the boom, thats why some are in trouble now.


  • #771
    HeyThereDeliah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Assuming you hadn't been made redundant like many in the private sector in the last 5 years. These people aren't protected by the Croke Park Agreement and don't have gold plated pensions to look forward to unfortunately.

    Have you any idea what a low paid public service worker earns? These pensions are nothing like what you seem to think they are.


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  • #772
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Aidric wrote: »
    Ah here. Stop this madness.



    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/features/2012/1019/1224325453675.html

    Maybe this gaurd knows donkey balls
    I know a few lads in the Gardai and from what I heard the shift allowance for working nights is around 10% compared to private companies who pay upto 30%,Now as for the Gardai sleeping in their cars due to finishing work at 2200 and back in for 0600 that's illegal the min rest for workers(apart from bus&truck drivers) is 11 hours consecutive rest.
    I was only talking about this the other day with a mate and informed them that Gardai mgmt are breaking the H&S act 2005 by not rostering the staff to have suffient rest,So you could have a member of the traffic corp checking that a truck/bus driver has had suffient rest by sleeping in a bed yet the Gardai slept in their car only in Ireland eh.
    :pac::pac::pac:


  • #773
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    Have you any idea what a low paid public service worker earns? These pensions are nothing like what you seem to think they are.

    What percentage of the actual pension value do the public sector workers fund themselves versus what is funded by their employer i.e the state?

    For private sector workers many employers contribute 0% or at most 5% or 10% of the persons salary for defined contribution pensions.


  • #774
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Worked in admin in the public sector - shyte money; would have been way better in the private sector for the equivalent work. Public sector bashers: try to engage brain before launching into your bitter tirades.
    heres a simple solution, quit your job in the public sector and get one in the private sector. If it was all sunshine you would have done so...


  • #775
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I just went out to feed my dog, an wasn't there 2 Gardai curled up asleep in the kennel with him.:eek:




    :pac:


  • #776
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I just went out to feed my dog, an wasn't there 2 Gardai curled up asleep in the kennel with him.:eek:




    :pac:

    will the dog get a big pension.......


  • #777
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    HeyThereDeliah wrote: »
    Have you any idea what a low paid public service worker earns? These pensions are nothing like what you seem to think they are.

    have you any idea what a low paid private sector worker earns. Or what their pension plan is? Or what their job security is?


  • #778
    Japer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Japer


    blahfckingblah wrote: »
    heres a simple solution, quit your job in the public sector and get one in the private sector. If it was all sunshine you would have done so...

    As David McWilliams says, you do not see many WIPS ( Whinging Irish Public Servants ) leaving their cosy well paid, well holidayed, secure, well pensioned with lots of tea breaks + sickies public sector jobs for jobs in the private sector.


  • #779
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Grayson wrote: »
    have you any idea what a low paid private sector worker earns. Or what their pension plan is? Or what their job security is?

    I think it's fair to say that very few people in this thread have real clue about what they are talking about.


  • #780
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    golden lane wrote: »
    will the dog get a big pension.......

    He doesn't even get rent allowance:mad:


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  • #781
    golden lane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    many public sector workers in geece had big pension pots.......

    they have not got them now.......


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