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The Trade Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    D3PO wrote: »
    None of them have even scored more than a top 25 QB

    Thats immaterial. A 45th ranked WR is worth more than a 17th ranked QB in our league as he's likely to play most weeks

    If you don't think you're getting value, don't trade, but vetoing a deal where both participants think they're getting value is a cock move IMO (particularly seeing as you haven't even seen it)
    D3PO wrote: »
    well to me that would be a dodgy trade hense a veto. Offering to trade away your bench rubbish for a starting QB isnt reasonable.

    If I had Alex Smith (for example) and needed a WR, I'd absolutely trade him for Miles Austin. I'd 100% be getting the better deal there (if Austin gets fit like msot think he will)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    D3PO wrote: »
    I see Stompers in Div 1 is in the market for a QB now that Matt Schaub is out for the season.

    Frankly a time sharing Jackie Battle, Deon Branch or an injured Miles Austin are a joke of players to put on the block in search for a QB.

    None of them have even scored more than a top 25 QB. Stompers you need to offer more.

    Ive offered you Big Ben for Ray Rice. Fair trade based on points.

    Honestly if anybody offers you a QB for Battle, Austin or Branch there are clueless and I will defo be voting against such a trade.
    Big Ben for Ray Rice? Thats certainly not a fair trade.

    You'd want to be getting a decent RB along with Big Ben for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    I think i've won the stupid trade offer stakes. Somebody in the Boards keeper just tried to offer his Matthew Stafford for my Adrian Peterson. If this wasn't bad enough, I currently already have Big Ben, Eli and Tebow on my roster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Matt Hasselbeck for Andre Johnson? You gotta be kidding me.

    Wtf is that trade about? Would you not shop it around and see if you could get a better deal than that for Andre Johnson?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    D3PO wrote: »
    I see Stompers in Div 1 is in the market for a QB now that Matt Schaub is out for the season.

    Frankly a time sharing Jackie Battle, Deon Branch or an injured Miles Austin are a joke of players to put on the block in search for a QB.

    None of them have even scored more than a top 25 QB. Stompers you need to offer more.

    Ive offered you Big Ben for Ray Rice. Fair trade based on points.

    Honestly if anybody offers you a QB for Battle, Austin or Branch there are clueless and I will defo be voting against such a trade.

    Joke of an offer. Rice went no.5/6 in most drafts and has exceeded expectations. Big Ben went in the 50's and has barely reached expectations. The drop off between Rice and a RB you'd pick up from the waiver wire is far more than the drop off between the QB equivilant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    My trade partner has Schaub (obv. out for season) and Fitzpatrick (struggling recently) as his QBs. Is it fair to offer Carson Palmer to him for Brent Celek?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    I think i've won the stupid trade offer stakes. Somebody in the Boards keeper just tried to offer his Matthew Stafford for my Adrian Peterson. If this wasn't bad enough, I currently already have Big Ben, Eli and Tebow on my roster
    You just got a serious trade offer from me. Think it benefits us both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You just got a serious trade offer from me. Think it benefits us both.

    Its a decent offer, but I think the loss of Murray is too much, especially as its been hinted that he's going to stay as the every down back when Jones comes back and he has potential in a keeper league. However, if you also swap Harvin for one of my receivers (Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward or Malcolm Floyd) then i'll agree to the trade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Its a decent offer, but I think the loss of Murray is too much, especially as its been hinted that he's going to stay as the every down back when Jones comes back and he has potential in a keeper league. However, if you also swap Harvin for one of my receivers (Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward or Malcolm Floyd) then i'll agree to the trade
    No I couldn't do that at the moment. I'm willing in the trade offer to weaken my wr corp significantly in order to improve my rb corp which admittedly is not good right now. If I were to do what you ask then I'd be very weak in the wr position and I don't want to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    eagle eye wrote: »
    No I couldn't do that at the moment. I'm willing in the trade offer to weaken my wr corp significantly in order to improve my rb corp which admittedly is not good right now. If I were to do what you ask then I'd be very weak in the wr position and I don't want to do that.

    In fairness losing Nicks and gaining Manningham is hardly weakening it significantly. 85 points to 58, and Manningham has been injured for a lot of that. When they're both on the field their output is fairly similar.

    Anyway, no thanks, but feel free to offer again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    May I try and help create a fair trade as a neutral? Obviously if you'd like me to help posting your rostersand what you want in a trade is required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    matthew8 wrote: »
    May I try and help create a fair trade as a neutral? Obviously if you'd like me to help posting your rostersand what you want in a trade is required.

    Ah no it's grand. I think whatever way we worked it, it was stacked on one side. The original offer was Nicks + Stewart for Murray + Manningham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭ashdale5


    Hi all. Mind if I interupt with my weekly trade drama?

    Current roster flex league

    QB Romo, Eli

    RB MJD, Wells, Felix Jones, Ogbonnaya

    WR White, Bowe, Manningham, Burress, Moore, Robinson (DAL)

    TE Hernandez

    I've been trying to trade for a RB for yonks (well documentd in this thread) so I put all my WR's on the block and an owner came wanting to know if I wanted Blount - he was willing to trade him for any one of White, Bowe, Manningham. Not really interested in Blount but he also has Lynch but he wants White for him.
    So White/Bowe/Manningham for Blount
    or
    White for Lynch
    or
    Stand pat

    Thanks again lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭deccy15


    Just agreed a trade in Prem div. with me giving up:
    Jason Witten
    Michael Turner
    Deoin Branch

    In return for:

    Matthew Stafford
    Beanie Wells
    Brandon Lloyd
    Owen Daniels

    Thoughts guys??
    Was very thin at QB with Kevin Kolb as my starter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    deccy15 wrote: »
    Just agreed a trade in Prem div. with me giving up:
    Jason Witten
    Michael Turner
    Deoin Branch

    In return for:

    Matthew Stafford
    Beanie Wells
    Brandon Lloyd
    Owen Daniels

    Thoughts guys??
    Was very thin at QB with Kevin Kolb as my starter.
    Steal and a half. Sure you gave up an elite TE and RB, but you got a top quality tight end and a very startable RB, while Lloyd's value is far better than Deion's, and getting Stafford is obviously brilliant as he has fantastic matchups for the rest of the season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭deccy15


    matthew8 wrote: »
    deccy15 wrote: »
    Just agreed a trade in Prem div. with me giving up:
    Jason Witten
    Michael Turner
    Deoin Branch

    In return for:

    Matthew Stafford
    Beanie Wells
    Brandon Lloyd
    Owen Daniels

    Thoughts guys??
    Was very thin at QB with Kevin Kolb as my starter.
    Steal and a half. Sure you gave up an elite TE and RB, but you got a top quality tight end and a very startable RB, while Lloyd's value is far better than Deion's, and getting Stafford is obviously brilliant as he has fantastic matchups for the rest of the season.
    Cheers dude, was a bit reluctant to give up Witten but felt the difference between Daniels and Witten wasn't as great as the difference between Stafford and Kolb.
    I'd just be a bit worried about Wells as he hasn't been great the last few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    deccy15 wrote: »
    Just agreed a trade in Prem div. with me giving up:
    Jason Witten
    Michael Turner
    Deoin Branch

    In return for:

    Matthew Stafford
    Beanie Wells
    Brandon Lloyd
    Owen Daniels

    Thoughts guys??
    Was very thin at QB with Kevin Kolb as my starter.


    I'm the other side of this trade and I'm pretty happy with it. Obviously I'm giving up a lot in Stafford but I'm happy to take a chance and roll with Tebow for the rest of the season so Stafford would have been on the bench most weeks.

    Turner is a big improvement over Wells on my team. Wells always seems to be playing with an injury and has not done much in the last few weeks. Turner has outscored him by 35 points in the last five weeks.

    Witten is also a big improvement over Daniels, who has failed to get in the endzone in the last five weeks. Witten has outscored Daniels by 21 points in this period and Daniels cause is not helped by Schuab going down. Daniels is also on a bye this week, which is a factor so late in the season.

    Branch is a downgrade from Lloyd alright, but not that much.

    I looked at how this trade affected my starting line-up:

    Turner > Wells
    Witten > Daniels
    Branch <= Lloyd


    Plus it's always cool to pull off a blockbuster trade :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭deccy15


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    deccy15 wrote: »
    Just agreed a trade in Prem div. with me giving up:
    Jason Witten
    Michael Turner
    Deoin Branch

    In return for:

    Matthew Stafford
    Beanie Wells
    Brandon Lloyd
    Owen Daniels

    Thoughts guys??
    Was very thin at QB with Kevin Kolb as my starter.


    I'm the other side of this trade and I'm pretty happy with it. Obviously I'm giving up a lot in Stafford but I'm happy to take a chance and roll with Tebow for the rest of the season so Stafford would have been on the bench most weeks.

    Turner is a big improvement over Wells on my team. Wells always seems to be playing with an injury and has not done much in the last few weeks. Turner has outscored him by 35 points in the last five weeks.

    Witten is also a big improvement over Daniels, who has failed to get in the endzone in the last five weeks. Witten has outscored Daniels by 21 points in this period and Daniels cause is not helped by Schuab going down. Daniels is also on a bye this week, which is a factor so late in the season.

    Branch is a downgrade from Lloyd alright, but not that much.

    I looked at how this trade affected my starting line-up:

    Turner > Wells
    Witten > Daniels
    Branch <= Lloyd


    Plus it's always cool to pull off a blockbuster trade :D

    Think it kinda helps us both dude. Was still gettin beat with Turner and Witten scoring decent the last few weeks.
    Think my qb's haven't got over 15 points all season which is pretty poor, and barely 10 points total the last 3 weeks from Painter and Kolb so it was badly needed change 4 me.
    I agree that on a head to head matchup you probably got the best of the trade. But its not a huge difference.
    Gotta love the blockbuster trades :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    I'm the other side of this trade and I'm pretty happy with it. Obviously I'm giving up a lot in Stafford but I'm happy to take a chance and roll with Tebow for the rest of the season so Stafford would have been on the bench most weeks.

    Turner is a big improvement over Wells on my team. Wells always seems to be playing with an injury and has not done much in the last few weeks. Turner has outscored him by 35 points in the last five weeks.

    Witten is also a big improvement over Daniels, who has failed to get in the endzone in the last five weeks. Witten has outscored Daniels by 21 points in this period and Daniels cause is not helped by Schuab going down. Daniels is also on a bye this week, which is a factor so late in the season.

    Branch is a downgrade from Lloyd alright, but not that much.

    I looked at how this trade affected my starting line-up:

    Turner > Wells
    Witten > Daniels
    Branch <= Lloyd


    Plus it's always cool to pull off a blockbuster trade :D

    The trade's clearly very good for you too. 2 big upgrades, one minor downgrade and one proper downgrade. No point in having great players you don't need at this point in the season.

    However, I'm not sure Schaub going down hurts Daniels. As we know the Texans have been run-first for a while, but often when a QB goes down it causes a team to change tactics. I think that teams may be putting 8 and 9 guys in the box with Leinart at QB which may force them to throw more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭SSK


    Nice trade lads, if your both happy with it that's the main thing. I just about prefer the Witten, Turner side of the deal, purely because your getting two elites, whereas the other side is an elite (Stafford) plus three good players. But yeah, its great to see a blockbuster :D

    In Div 3, after a bit of toing and froing, I've just agreed to trade Benson (me) for Percy Harvin. I have Turner, Murray and McGahee already at RB and VJax and a bunch of halfwits at WR.

    It suits me because I get a good WR with lots of upside as Ponder settles into the offence in exchange for what is in effect my 4th choice RB. Ideally I would have traded McGahee for a slightly better player than Harvin, but with his injury I didn't think I'd get a deal done and I really needed a decent WR this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭deccy15


    SSK wrote: »
    Nice trade lads, if your both happy with it that's the main thing. I just about prefer the Witten, Turner side of the deal, purely because your getting two elites, whereas the other side is an elite (Stafford) plus three good players. But yeah, its great to see a blockbuster :D

    In Div 3, after a bit of toing and froing, I've just agreed to trade Benson (me) for Percy Harvin. I have Turner, Murray and McGahee already at RB and VJax and a bunch of halfwits at WR.

    It suits me because I get a good WR with lots of upside as Ponder settles into the offence in exchange for what is in effect my 4th choice RB. Ideally I would have traded McGahee for a slightly better player than Harvin, but with his injury I didn't think I'd get a deal done and I really needed a decent WR this week.

    Normally I wouldn't like trading a decent WR for a good RB but in your case its a very good deal.
    You're loaded at RB and thin at WR so a trade that looks ok on 1st glance looks really good when you look at the circumstances behind it. Like our trade if it suits both sides then its a good one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 948 ✭✭✭SSK


    deccy15 wrote: »
    Normally I wouldn't like trading a decent WR for a good RB but in your case its a very good deal.
    You're loaded at RB and thin at WR so a trade that looks ok on 1st glance looks really good when you look at the circumstances behind it. Like our trade if it suits both sides then its a good one.

    Yeah he has some decent WRs but was thin at RB, particularly this week when he has Mendenhall and Ingram on bye so it works well for both of us.

    I'm 4-6 so desperate to get something going and I didn't see the likelihood of getting an elite WR without trading Murray or Turner which would probably be counter-productive in the long run


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    I've been offered Calvin Johnson for MJD and Anquan Boldin...would you do it?

    League is 2RBs, 2WRs, 1RB/WR

    My roster at RB:
    McFadden
    Bradshaw
    Mendenhall

    My Roster at WR:
    Steve Smith
    Vincent Jackson
    Steve Johnson
    Brain Hartline


    His Roster:

    RBs:
    T Richardson
    V Ballard
    R Matthews
    Deangelo Williams

    WRs:
    Jordy Nelson
    Randall Cobb
    Robert Mecham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Your taking Johnson?

    Personally no chance. Johnson atm isn't worth boldin on his own. Also I think titans might have a tough run coming up.

    It basically depends if you think he has turned a corner or not. I don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    gufc21 wrote: »
    Your taking Johnson?

    Personally no chance. Johnson atm isn't worth boldin on his own. Also I think titans might have a tough run coming up.

    It basically depends if you think he has turned a corner or not. I don't.

    Wtf?!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Syferus wrote: »
    Wtf?!

    He's after reading it as CJ2K, not Megatron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,930 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    He's after reading it as CJ2K, not Megatron
    Megatron is not doing it at the same level this season. He has only one td after six games. I think he is averaging 11 points a game which is well below where he should be.

    And lets not forget the Madden curse which could strike at any time!


    I think Hazys has a fine receiving corp and I couldn't see who you would drop for Megatron out of your first three and you only potentially have 2 WR positions. I think he is in a really good situation with what he has at the moment and I wouldn't change that lineup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Hazys wrote: »
    I've been offered Calvin Johnson for MJD and Anquan Boldin...would you do it?

    League is 2RBs, 2WRs, 1RB/WR

    My roster at RB:
    McFadden
    Bradshaw
    Mendenhall

    My Roster at WR:
    Steve Smith
    Vincent Jackson
    Steve Johnson
    Brain Hartline

    SO your choice is
    RB
    McFadden
    Bradshaw
    Mendenhall

    WR
    Steve Smith
    Vincent Jackson
    Steve Johnson
    Brain Hartline
    Calvin Johnson

    or

    RB
    McFadden
    Bradshaw
    Mendenhall
    MJD

    WR
    Steve Smith
    Vincent Jackson
    Steve Johnson
    Brain Hartline
    Boldin

    I'd take Calvin Johnson in that trade every single time. MJD isn't producing (I own him in one league) and Boldin isn't really a fantasy starter. Your 3 remaining Rbs are all a good enough standard that you could play the match ups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    I'm pulled the trigger on it. Thanks for the input.

    Calvin Johnson is an upgrade on MJD as i think he'll start hitting form soon and losing Boldin is no biggie to me.

    MJD could pick up his form but the Jags offense is so rubbish, i'm not going to hold my breath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    Obviously too late to give advice on the trade but what I would have said is that I would only make that trade in a keeper league. Megatron is playing well getting big yardage in each game but isnt getting the td's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    The lad's being triple marked at times. Some of his catches, like the sideline one on the go-home drive last Sunday, are the very definition of clutch.

    I wouldn't worries about Megatron, I took him with my first pick in D7 and have been perfectly happy with his consistency - he'll add the TDs to the mix in time. Even if Stafford was injured Shaun Hill is an excellent back-up who does no harm to Megatron's value.


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