Life on the dole

Boombastic wrote: »

Yes it's easy to come on the internet and complain that you struggle to pay the esb out of 100/week, without clarifying that there is more household income and you are not paying the full amount alone and can afford €30 for the vets for your cat.

Did you find the Kopparberg in the end?

A) That 30 took about two months to save. A once off 30e is a lot cheaper than other medical conditions than can arise from not neutering, and also it is a lot more humane to neuter a cat. You'd think it was 500 the way you are going on. Punish people for being frugal and saving a little while there is more coming into the house, but punish people when they don't. People like you need to make up your mind what your opinion is, you cannot have it all ways. (Again, not that it's any of your business )

If you bothered your behind to read my last post, you would know why I started that thread about Kopparberg. Well done on your selective reading skills, must have taken a while to acquire.

God, are some people really that feckin dissatisfied with their lives they have to find any reason to begrudge others?? If you want to sit at home going mad every day be my bloody guest, I'd gladly take your job, cos you obviously don't appreciate it.

If you were nosey enough not to quote selective threads of mine, you'd see over 70% are actually about finding a job and how to go about it. Some people are too ignorant for words. Get off my f***ing case. It's the principle of the thing that you are saying 100 is too much for one person, yet if it was any less, people would NOT be able to survive - I am one of the lucky people living with someone who got on a bloody FAS course TEMPORARILY (just like winning the lotto, I suppose, sure we can afford a mansion now!) It's high time people like you minded your own bloody business, and if you don't like threads like this, don't get involved in them!!!

I never once in my life said I was entitled to the dole, I would rather not be signing on and have ignorant people like you looking down on me all the time, but if there was anything more in my power to do I would have bloody done it by now, and I don't have to justify that to YOU or ANYONE. Neither does anyone else. I really cannot believe some people. I hope you lose your job one day and have to live in other peoples shoes, I really do. As I said, I'd take a job in the morning, and I'd gladly swap places with you for a week to see how well you do.

If you really think ANY household can run on 288e a week altogether and not struggle in this day and age, you are living in a very sheltered and delusional world. No longer will I be justifying anything I write here to anyone after this post, because quite frankly, it's none of your bloody business in the slightest. If you are against people on the dole, don't click on a thread entitled 'Life on the Dole'

Boombastic wrote: »

€30 took 2 months to save to cure your cat of fleas, your house must be riddled

Learn to read properly, then get back to me. Deal?

You may have missed I said these things were saved for and paid WHILE we are getting a little extra. Does that distract from my point in any way? No.

Sure, thanks to the extra 88 courtesy of the government we're living the life of style.... Plasma screens all round and everything. God, I dunno why I thought it was a struggle to pay for things, thank the lord there's people like you to set me straight and remind me how rich I am. Why bother busting my ass looking for a job all week when I can just sit and home and roll around in all the money I have...Thanks again for the reminder, appreciated.

K3lso, I read your posts on the minimum wage thread and generally agree with you. Even in this thread I can see where you're coming from, but before you jump down my neck, read my own post above in full.

We live in a democratic modern humane state, you cannot have people starving on the streets. To take another prospective on it, imagine crime levels if Welfare were to be abolished. Taking this into account, you can begrudge someone the 200 odd euros a week to live. I draw the line at these accruing additional benefits that people avail off.

But to answer your question, it comes from us the tax payers. As does the money for our roads, our hospitals and out street lights - other fundamental elements of a modern democratic state. Where this starts to fail is when you have 'Joe' getting his mortgage, gas, electricity paid for, his children's meals and school uniforms paid for, his medicine and bus passes paid for and still has 200 odd euro a week to live on - to spend on his pints in the pub. That is wrong and that is where we, as a welfare state, failed.

retroactive wrote: »

K3lso, I read your posts on the minimum wage thread and generally agree with you. Even in this thread I can see where you're coming from, but before you jump down my neck, read my own post above in full.

We live in a democratic modern humane state, you cannot have people starving on the streets. To take another prospective on it, imagine crime levels if Welfare were to be abolished. Taking this into account, you can begrudge someone the 200 odd euros a week to live. I draw the line at these accruing additional benefits that people avail off.

But to answer your question, it comes from us the tax payers. As does the money for our roads, our hospitals and out street lights - other fundamental elements of a modern democratic state. Where this starts to fail is when you have 'Joe' getting his mortgage, gas, electricity paid for, his children's meals and school uniforms paid for, his medicine and bus passes paid for and still has 200 odd euro a week to live on - to spend on his pints in the pub. That is wrong and that is where we, as a welfare state, failed.

You think 450000 people live like this??? Are you for real??

retroactive wrote: »

Family income support
Mortgage interest supplement
Child benefit
Bus Passes
Medical Cards
Household Benefit Package
Fuel Allowance
Rent Allowance
The list goes on and on..

A democratic state should provide the "less fortunate" with a minimum, subsistant, means of living. No right minded person would begrudge some 180 Euro a week to live, but when we account for the myriad of Social insurance payments, Means-tested payments and Universal payments we see that the accuring benefits to someone availling of 'Social Protection' have completely spiralled out of control. Anyone here on the average industrial wage would likely be better off being unemployed, spitting out a kid and going on the waiting list for a council house.

Please, stop saying its only 280/188/whatever arbitrary figure you decide it is because it truly isn't - It is so much more and, crucially for this topic, IT IS TOO MUCH.

The dole is ONLY €188 a week (or less in some cases). Your list is of ancillary benefits that not everyone is entitled to or claims.

Your post is sensationalist nonsense, more akin with the kind of claims from some who think refugees and immigrants just walk in to the country and automatically get all the the benefits plus a free car/buggy/taxi licence/house etc than it has any basis in fact.

One day closer to emigrating for good..
I've been working in various countries and with the money I saved, I've been doing a few courses here while I've been looking for a job, in the hope that they'd help me in the long run. No such luck at the moment, despite the networking and the fact that I have 2 so-called 'high value' qualifications- Computer Science and I'm fluent in Spanish.

I distain this country at the moment- it's just completely stagnant. No effort to create jobs, hold onto jobs, retrain workers, encourage people to get back into education. Only a glorified slave-work scheme. **** THAT.

Dwellingdweller wrote: »

A degree in CS and you can't get a job? :eek: Just surprised cos that's what I want to do for my degree and you usually hear that you'll have no bother getting a job.

Yup, but there's the little matter of 'experience'.

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I have been on the dole since last December and get a total of 188 per week plus have a medical card, single, no kids, so no FIS, child benefit, etc. I will be using my medical card next week to renew my prescription for a long term illness which I have to do every 6 months. I ain't trotting up to the doctors every second week for the sake of it as it's FREE, fingers crossed, I won't have to use it for another 6 months.

No fuel allowance as I am not long term unemployed so scratch that as well. Thankfully I have payment protection on the house as I would be goosed!! Still have to pay house insurance, etc, this out of my dole, plus all usual bills.

I have worked since I left school for the last 23 years and paid my taxes, etc so anybody that has a problem with me on the dole can go and f@@k themselves. I would rather be working but jobs are an extremely valuable commodity presently and can't seem to catch a break but still plug on and send applications, cvs, etc every week.

I hope the people whinging on here never find themselves in the situation of losing their jobs because it is no fun on the dole...

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

One day closer to emigrating for good..
I've been working in various countries and with the money I saved, I've been doing a few courses here while I've been looking for a job, in the hope that they'd help me in the long run. No such luck at the moment, despite the networking and the fact that I have 2 so-called 'high value' qualifications- Computer Science and I'm fluent in Spanish.

I distain this country at the moment- it's just completely stagnant. No effort to create jobs, hold onto jobs, retrain workers, encourage people to get back into education. Only a glorified slave-work scheme. **** THAT.

Been 2 very big job announcements over the last 2 or 3 days.

Apparently Paddy Power will be looking for highly qualified, degree laden people.

NIMAN wrote: »

Been 2 very big job announcements over the last 2 or 3 days.

Apparently Paddy Power will be looking for highly qualified, degree laden people.

Paddy Power is the beacon among the **** with regards to Irish companies. There's a complete dependence on multinationals to keep everything afloat.