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5yr old girl missing in Wales

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    How can there be a murder without a murder victim/body, Did he claim to have killed her?
    Abduction charge I can understand but a murder charge without a body I can't?

    Well, he doesn't have an alibi for the time during and after her disappearance and was seen by witnesses taking her.

    Perhaps there is also DNA evidence either on his person, his vehicle or in his home. I think this would be crucial in obtaining a prosecution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 hazel10


    py2006 wrote: »
    If this guy is not charged or found to have no involvment his life is destroyed now. This is what really annoys me about the media. They seem to latch onto somebody and print and display his name and image. I think this is totally wrong until they are charged and found guilty.

    If you recall the woman who was murdered in London last year, the media latched on to her eccentric ex-lecturer and not only mentioned his name but showed photographs and filmed him leaving his house etc. As it turned out this guy had nothing to do with it but his name will be forever associated with the case. :(

    It seems to be more prevalent in the UK but maybe it is just as bad here.

    I agree with you about the media, crazy how they latch on to someone with some suspicion just to create some headlines and in the process destroy lives.

    However, this case seems different. The Welsh police have actively given out information about this guy. It seems like they have been sure from the start that he did it. The police could be wrong of course, but in a case this high profile I don't think they would be this public if they didn't have strong evidence against him.

    Personally I think he did it. He was caught near a wooded area/rivers, wearing camouflage clothes that are waterproof, the kids playing with April said she got into the driver's side which the police thought was a mistake but it turns out this fella's jeep is a left hand drive, his jeep was hidden away in some garage etc. Sorry but if these are just coincidence then he has the worst luck in the world. If he did do it you would think he would just tell them where she is. Just shows how evil he really is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    All the RIP April facebook pages are sickening.

    Aprils older sister Jasmine left a comment on one of the ones that has been active since Thursday asking for the page to be deleted, and it got nearly 30,000 likes.

    Yet the Admin (who by the looks of his/her posts is no older than 12) won't shut down the page. Her poor family :(

    I hate it when the Facebook mob get involved in situations like this. They are not helping at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    How can there be a murder without a murder victim/body, Did he claim to have killed her?
    Abduction charge I can understand but a murder charge without a body I can't?

    Everything will be circumstantial and it will be basically up to a lawyer to create reasonable doubt. Some things will be harder to defend like if there was blood in his jeep or dna at his home. But if it's just the witness testimony of young kids it would be extremely difficult to convict for murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Poor wee thing.

    RIP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    All the RIP April facebook pages are sickening.

    Aprils older sister Jasmine left a comment on one of the ones that has been active since Thursday asking for the page to be deleted, and it got nearly 30,000 likes.

    Yet the Admin (who by the looks of his/her posts is no older than 12) won't shut down the page. Her poor family :(


    Any of those RIP April facebook pages should just be reported. If you see a page like that, report to facebook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    rogieop wrote: »
    you think he will actually see any of the "normal" jail population?

    He will be housed in with all the other ****ing paedophiles and they can all talk about their fantasies together.

    relax with the verdict there. innocent until proven otherwise, dont let skynews tell you whose guilty and what this man has done. in the, albeit unlikely, event that he is innocent, the mans life will be ruined for what he has been accused of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    geetar wrote: »
    relax with the verdict there. innocent until proven otherwise, dont let skynews tell you whose guilty and what this man has done. in the, albeit unlikely, event that he is innocent, the mans life will be ruined for what he has been accused of.

    Not even charged with being a padeophile either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    what's the motive here.is it a sex crime
    or something different?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭cats.life


    if he did kill her, why wont he tell where he put the poor little mite.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    cats.life wrote: »
    if he did kill her, why wont he tell where he put the poor little mite.

    Like most that kill people, if he did do it, but is going to plead his innocence, he wont be giving evidence against himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    cats.life wrote: »
    if he did kill her, why wont he tell where he put the poor little mite.
    He is probably not saying a word, let the time run down until the police are forced to release him.

    If I had to guess, and the poor thing is dead, he knows the body is very well disposed of and without his co-operation it won't be found.
    No body, more than likely no sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    He is probably not saying a word, let the time run down until the police are forced to release him.

    If I had to guess, and the poor thing is dead, he knows the body is very well disposed of and without his co-operation it won't be found.
    No body, more than likely no sentence.



    He won't last on the outside.. hopefully he dies a slow horrible death,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    hopefully he dies a slow horrible death

    He's been convicted of nothing ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭littlefriend


    That they were able to charge him with her murder without finding a body suggests to me that he admitted it but won't say where she is? Am I wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    You'd assume that that's the case, and that they're not just relying on circumstantial evidence, yes.

    However, I seriously do not understand why they've released so little information. If he has confessed, then how would it hurt the case for the police to let the public know this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 BrunoGeist


    ...he knows the body is very well disposed of and without his co-operation it won't be found.
    No body, more than likely no sentence.

    This is the most puzzling bit. At this stage we (I mean the public) don't know what was the motive. Was it premeditated, sexual, revenge driven etc which had a direct connection to the way the murderer got rid of the body. I mean, the detectives know most of the tricks, for example as usual the perpetrator was known to the victim, lived nearby and so on, I simply don't believe that guy committed a perfect crime since he was caught less than 24 hours after April's disappearance. My wild guess is that he dumped the body into the river, since dogs can't find the scent, rapid flow makes water impossible for quick search operation.

    I hope they'll find her so the true identity of the murderer can be confirmed.

    Rest in peace little one. Nobody deserves what you went through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Would love to know how the Aussie Police got that other fúcker to confess to Jill's murder.

    My fear is the Welsh Police think it is safer to charge this guy rather than release him as there's bound to be vilgilantes (swear to God if I was there I'd sign up).

    Hard to say this, but if he did murder that poor wee girl it's time to cut a deal to reveal where she is. Let him out in 20 years instead of 30 (consolation is he'll be in solitary or near same for all his days as I doubt he'll last long if the general prison populus find out who he is). Yes hang him by the balls and all that but ye know it won't happen.

    I can't put into words my deepest disgust of this case and Jill Meaghers case. People going about their normal everyday business (and being kids) and cúnts take it upon themselves to disrupt this and take these precious lives away.

    Apologies Mods for language but fúck it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    I would imagine if they didn't increase the charges to murder they'd have to release him there and then, issuing murder charges allows for him to be kept in custody longer, hopefully long enough to find her or break him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    Plazaman wrote: »
    Would love to know how the Aussie Police got that other fúcker to confess to Jill's murder.

    My fear is the Welsh Police think it is safer to charge this guy rather than release him as there's bound to be vilgilantes (swear to God if I was there I'd sign up).

    Hard to say this, but if he did murder that poor wee girl it's time to cut a deal to reveal where she is. Let him out in 20 years instead of 30 (consolation is he'll be in solitary or near same for all his days as I doubt he'll last long if the general prison populus find out who he is). Yes hang him by the balls and all that but ye know it won't happen.

    I can't put into words my deepest disgust of this case and Jill Meaghers case. People going about their normal everyday business (and being kids) and cúnts take it upon themselves to disrupt this and take these precious lives away.

    Apologies Mods for language but fúck it

    I think the Aussie police had a very easy case to solve he had all ready raped eight prostitutes and they had his DNA.

    I still cannot see the motive in this case unless there is things the police in Wales are not revealing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭babygirlz


    God love her, the poor pet.
    I just can not get my head round this. He is a father with kids the same age as April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,225 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    You'd assume that that's the case, and that they're not just relying on circumstantial evidence, yes.

    However, I seriously do not understand why they've released so little information. If he has confessed, then how would it hurt the case for the police to let the public know this?

    He may have indirectly alluded to killing her. The Police could not release such information without jeopardizing the case against him, which is still being pieced together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,567 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Shame it took 24 hours to locate him in first place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Shame it took 24 hours to locate him in first place

    With so many cases like this, where nobody is found at all - I'd say it's a credit to the local police force that they found someone so soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Strawberry Fields


    With the aussie one he was on cctv in the location at the time.

    With this no cctv the witness is a kid, reliability??
    And as he's been charged with perverting the course of justice I'd imagine he won't co-operate or say where the body is.

    This could be the most interesting case since OJ Simpson if Bridger keeps up the innocent guv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Poor wee thing.

    RIP

    She hasn't been found, have some respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭HeyThereDeliah


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    She hasn't been found, have some respect.

    How is that disrespectful they are looking for her body. The police think she is dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Hopefully shes found alive and well,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    dlofnep wrote: »
    With so many cases like this, where nobody is found at all - I'd say it's a credit to the local police force that they found someone so soon.

    Well when he came and took her into his car, in front of other kids in an area he is known in, it is unusual compared to other cases. The whole thing is a bit strange.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Well when he came and took her into his car, in front of other kids in an area he is known in, it is unusual compared to other cases. The whole thing is a bit strange.
    Yeah, I don't really understand it. If his young kids were playing with April, then wouldn't they have got into the car with her? Then wouldn't they notice her going missing? It just seems to be a bit of a strange case.


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