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5yr old girl missing in Wales

  • 02-10-2012 8:24am
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    http://news.sky.com/story/991959/search-intensifies-for-missing-five-year-old
    A local search team is calling for more volunteers in the hunt for a five-year-old girl believed to have been abducted.
    April Jones was playing with friends near her home in the Mid Wales town of Machynlleth at around 7.30pm on Monday when she went missing.
    She was last spotted by another child getting into a van, wearing a purple knee-length coat with grey fur around the hood, a white polo top and black trousers, said police.
    Dyfed-Powys Police confirmed her disappearance on its Twitter account.
    At 10.40pm the force posted a statement saying: "We are increasingly concerned for a missing five year old, April, who was last seen playing on her bike in Machynlleth at about 7.30pm.......

    I heard this story late last night and hoped it was a mother/father/child tug-o-war situation.

    Sadly, the police in Wales are intensifying their search and treating this as an abduction. I feel sick to the pit of my stomach thinking about what this poor girl may be going through.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Please God she will return home safe :(

    Must be awful for the family


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The BBC have a photo of her in the coat she was wearing when she went missing

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19795761


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    I really hope she returns home safe, what an awful thing to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    I was instantly reminded of the Madeline McCann story when I saw this little girls photo.

    What the fcuk is wrong with the world !! These last few weeks/months, things have gone so out of control. Very scary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    I don't think it is a family member that has taken her. The media coverage would not be so intense if that was the case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭tmc86


    Jeez, these cases are becoming all too frequent. Hope she is found safe and sound.

    It makes you think about the type of people living amongst us. The town is only small at about 2200 population and in my opinion it makes it even more eeire when things like this happen in small towns/villages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    This must be a nightmare for the family...

    BUT.. (I know this won't be a popular thing to say)

    Who in their right mind lets a five year old out in the public street to play with a friend without constant adult supervision?

    Our youngest will be five soon and is never, ever out of our sight.. hell, our then year old isn't either unless she is somewhere being supervised by qualified adults whom we know have been garda vetted to supervise kids...

    Its a mean nasty world, bad things hapen and precautions need to be taken constantly or this type of evil stuff happens.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    As a Mother I can only imagine the agony her Parents are going through.. Please God let her turn up safely...

    Horrendous :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭skepticalone


    hate to say it but i fear this one wont have a happy ending , there are some very sick and twisted people out there .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    The next 10-11 hours are crucial. The response seemed to be fast and hopefully the abductor can be appealed to through the media. The mother needs to get on tv quick though if she hasn't already. If the little girl is not found come tonight the statistics paint a horrible picture. Hope this one works out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Jesus that is so awful. Who would be so brazen as to snatch a child from outside their home?

    And I would have been let out to play til 8 or 9 at night as a kid (although we lived in a cul de sac). All it takes is turning your back for 30 secs, these freaks lurk and wait for their chance.

    Hope they find the little one safe and well and make the sicko who took her pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    If you are separated from your child out shopping even from a couple of minutes you get a sinking feeling of dread in the pit of your stomach

    it must be a waking nightmare for her parents


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ziggy23


    She was seen getting into a light coloured van. Please god she is found safe but it doesn't look good. Her poor family must be up the wall with worry:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,674 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    FFS Kay Burley of Sky News:-

    "She was last seen alive..."

    I`m sorry but why the need to include the word "alive"?.

    Its just tasteless, tabloid style journalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    FFS Kay Burley of Sky News:-

    "She was last seen alive..."

    I`m sorry but why the need to include the word "alive"?.

    Its just tasteless, tabloid style journalism.

    Yeah that's sky news all over. They're sub-human when it comes to stuff like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,768 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    She was seen to be willingly getting into a van. I think that is every parent's worst nightmare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    I was just looking at facebook/findapril. Some idiot of a girl posted that if April were black or Asian, nobody would care if she was missing. What is wrong with some people?

    There are sick, evil, twisted b4stards in the world and they're found in all shapes and forms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    bbam wrote: »
    This must be a nightmare for the family...

    BUT.. (I know this won't be a popular thing to say)

    Who in their right mind lets a five year old out in the public street to play with a friend without constant adult supervision?

    Our youngest will be five soon and is never, ever out of our sight.. hell, our then year old isn't either unless she is somewhere being supervised by qualified adults whom we know have been garda vetted to supervise kids...

    Its a mean nasty world, bad things hapen and precautions need to be taken constantly or this type of evil stuff happens.

    Parents who don't smother their kids and actually allow their children to be children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    I was just looking at facebook/findapril. Some idiot of a girl posted that if April were black or Asian, nobody would care if she was missing. What is wrong with some people?

    There are sick, evil, twisted b4stards in the world and they're found in all shapes and forms.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    V_Moth wrote: »

    April Jones isn't a woman. She is a 5 year old child !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4L8x4ACAAASuuV.jpg

    Here is April in the coat she was abducted in.

    Has the father been mentioned at all?, hopefully she has been abducted by the father, she got into the van willingly according to police.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    The world is a sick place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭CarMe


    Im getting so sick of hearing people going on about the poor parents!! My god, this poor little girl is missing and instead of sympathising with her parents who must be going out of their mind, they sit on their big high horse placing blame. Parents do their very best for their children and occasionally these awful things happen, do you not think her parents are sick with guilt as it is??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    CarMe wrote: »
    Im getting so sick of hearing people going on about the poor parents!! My god, this poor little girl is missing and instead of sympathising with her parents who must be going out of their mind, they sit on their big high horse placing blame. Parents do their very best for their children and occasionally these awful things happen, do you not think her parents are sick with guilt as it is??

    Yup I agree. People are so hell bent on blaming the parents they forget that there is someone else at fault....ie; the person who actually took the child!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    CarMe wrote: »
    Im getting so sick of hearing people going on about the poor parents!! My god, this poor little girl is missing and instead of sympathising with her parents who must be going out of their mind, they sit on their big high horse placing blame. Parents do their very best for their children and occasionally these awful things happen, do you not think her parents are sick with guilt as it is??

    well effin Said CarMe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Parents who don't smother their kids and actually allow their children to be children.

    What a ridiculous thing to say. Just because you supervise a five year oldchild out playing does not mean you are smothering them. I suppose in the caseof Maddie McCann the parents were just allowing her some freedom.

    Besides if "smothering" my child was to stop something like this happening, I'll focking smother away!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    What really annoys me is the fact that sky news are running this nearly all the time,

    now i don't mind the coverage its the lack of actually doing anything at all.

    Why don't they use the "sky copter" the have to do sweeps of the area along with the police choppers, be it grid patterns or what, heck even searching back roads for signs of recent travel or looking for cars matching the description from the air and calling them in.

    If they wanted to cover their ass they could bring a cop up with them make it all official.

    Its a win win, sky get some good publicity (for a change) and there is a larger search area being covered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    What a ridiculous thing to say. Just because you supervise a five year oldchild out playing does not mean you are smothering them. I suppose in the caseof Maddie McCann the parents were just allowing her some freedom.

    Besides if "smothering" my child was to stop something like this happening, I'll focking smother away!!

    oh to be a perfect parent :rolleyes:
    it takes 2 seconds for something like this to happen, a blink of an eye, and it's done.
    god help you if something like this ever happens to you ...
    but it won't obviously, with those eyes at the back of your head.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    bbam wrote: »
    This must be a nightmare for the family...

    BUT.. (I know this won't be a popular thing to say)

    Who in their right mind lets a five year old out in the public street to play with a friend without constant adult supervision?

    Our youngest will be five soon and is never, ever out of our sight.. hell, our then year old isn't either unless she is somewhere being supervised by qualified adults whom we know have been garda vetted to supervise kids...

    Its a mean nasty world, bad things hapen and precautions need to be taken constantly or this type of evil stuff happens.

    Lots of people.

    If you live in a housing estate it is absolutely a normal thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    Dr.Silly wrote: »
    oh to be a perfect parent :rolleyes:
    it takes 2 seconds for something like this to happen, a blink of an eye, and it's done.
    god help you if something like this ever happens to you ...
    but it won't obviously, with those eyes at the back of your head.

    My point, which you obviously missed was that; these terrible things do happen. And just because a parent may try and be extra vigilant, it does not mean that they are smothering their child, as it was put.

    It is very rare that a parent should ever be to blame in these situations, but being extra careful by watching a five year old out playing does not equate smothering a child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    My point, which you obviously missed was that; these terrible things do happen. And just because a parent may try and be extra vigilant, it does not mean that they are smothering their child, as it was put.

    It is very rare that a parent should ever be to blame in these situations, but being extra careful by watching a five year old out playing does not equate smothering a child.

    k then, apologies, I did miss your point.
    You're right, it doesn't mean smothering


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Police have cordoned off an area near Aprils home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Lots of people.

    If you live in a housing estate it is absolutely a normal thing to do.

    What!
    We're not talking the summertime either. At 7-7:30pm, the beginning of October it's well on the way to darkness too. Letting a 5 year old out unsupervised at dusk is seriously increasing the chances of something bad happening.

    I feel so badly for those parents, what I can imagine couldn't come close to the terror they must be feeling.

    But that doesn't change the fact that a 5 year old shouldn't be out in the public street unsupervised. It was poor judgment in my opinion.

    All we can hope it that the monster that took her has some remorse and frees her, poor little thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Dr.Silly wrote: »
    oh to be a perfect parent :rolleyes:
    it takes 2 seconds for something like this to happen, a blink of an eye, and it's done.
    god help you if something like this ever happens to you ...
    but it won't obviously, with those eyes at the back of your head.

    Yes yes a chance snatch can happen in an instant.
    That's completely different though to allowing a poor defenceless child out to be preyed upon by some monster.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    CarMe wrote: »
    Im getting so sick of hearing people going on about the poor parents!! My god, this poor little girl is missing and instead of sympathising with her parents who must be going out of their mind, they sit on their big high horse placing blame. Parents do their very best for their children and occasionally these awful things happen, do you not think her parents are sick with guilt as it is??

    Amen.

    I've a child of near 5 (of four young kids) and I can hand on heart say I would be going out of my friggin' mind.

    God help the child and god help the parents.
    Save the bitching against them for later when IF then they are found to be at fault!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Biggins wrote: »
    Amen.

    I've a child of near 5 (of four young kids) and I can hand on heart say I would be going out of my friggin' mind.

    God help the child and god help the parents.
    Save the bitching against them for later when IF they are found to be at fault!

    I'm not saying they are at fault, obviously the monster that took the child is at fault.
    My point though is that their poor judgment left the child more voulenerable to be preyed upon by some sicko.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    I really hope against hope she's found alive and well, although sadly it isn't looking good for the little pet. I hope whoever took her finds within them a sliver of humanity and realises how depraved they are for snatching an innocent little girl away from her loved ones and will hopefully show enough mercy not to harm her.

    My heart goes out to her family - they are going through an ordeal right now I wouldn't wish on anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Police have cordoned off an area near Aprils home


    Not a good sign :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bbam wrote: »
    I'm not saying they are at fault, obviously the monster that took the child is at fault.
    My point though is that their poor judgement left the child more vulnerable to be preyed upon by some sicko.

    NOT picking on your point in particular but there seems to be this automatic rush to think "O' parents must have done something wrong."

    ANYONE can turn their back for a second to go get something, reply to someone, go get a coat, go get a phone that might be ringing inside or many other reasons which might distract a person for 30 to 60 seconds - and in that time a sick person comes along and does the worst thing.
    (I don't know the exact circumstances of this girl and how her parents lost sight of her)

    You CANNOT be sure kids 100% of the time are safe - all you can do is try your best.
    Thats all.
    Can people (not here but in general) stop with the sometimes rash automatic decision that "O' it must be the parents fault!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    danniemcq wrote: »
    What really annoys me is the fact that sky news are running this nearly all the time,

    now i don't mind the coverage its the lack of actually doing anything at all.

    Why don't they use the "sky copter" the have to do sweeps of the area along with the police choppers, be it grid patterns or what, heck even searching back roads for signs of recent travel or looking for cars matching the description from the air and calling them in.

    If they wanted to cover their ass they could bring a cop up with them make it all official.

    Its a win win, sky get some good publicity (for a change) and there is a larger search area being covered.

    they do occasionally muck-in.but that's not their role-they are there to report the news (in order to generate profits of course)

    i'm sure there's plenty more helicopters available for search purposes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Another disgusting comment left on facebook page.

    Julie Arnup: Well she is better off without parents like THAT!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭Feeona



    Julie Arnup: Well she is better off without parents like THAT!!!!

    :eek:

    There but the grace of god goes she :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    What is wrong with people? Sometimes, I wish social media had never been invented. At least before the internet, these idiots only had their own four walls to spew this crap at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    Another disgusting comment left on facebook page.

    Julie Arnup: Well she is better off without parents like THAT!!!!

    wow :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Biggins wrote: »
    NOT picking on your point in particular but there seems to be this automatic rush to think "O' parents must have done something wrong."

    ANYONE can turn their back for a second to go get something, reply to someone, go get a coat, go get a phone that might be ringing inside or many other reasons which might distract a person for 30 to 60 seconds - and in that time a sick person comes along and does the worst thing.
    (I don't know the exact circumstances of this girl and how her parents lost sight of her)

    You CANNOT be sure kids 100% of the time are safe - all you can do is try your best.
    Thats all.
    Can people (not here but in general) stop with the sometimes rash automatic decision that "O' it must be the parents fault!"

    All reports I've read definitely say she was out in the street playing with friends, not that a parent got distracted for a second.

    Five year olds cannot be left to their own devices to play in public, if nothing else this proves it.
    Someone mentioned the McCanns, again they displayed stupendously poor judgment and their Child suffered as a result.

    Do I feel sorry for these parents, of course I do, it's a horrific thing to happen.

    As for the comments reported above from social media sites, it's just sick.

    I'm sure these parents thought they were doing the right thing and nothing would happen, they were very wrong, a poor judgement call.
    They didn't cause this to happen, but their absence allowed it to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭abacus120


    I lost my daughter for 4 hours a couple of summers ago on a packed beach,every minute felt like hours,i was in an awful state that still makes my blood run cold when i think about it,she wandered out of my eyesight for a matter of seconds and that was it,a split second is all it takes,when the police found her the relief was immense,i had totally convinced myself i would never see her again,i really hope this poor little girl comes home x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    bbam wrote: »
    All reports I've read definitely say she was out in the street playing with friends, not that a parent got distracted for a second.

    Five year olds cannot be left to their own devices to play in public, if nothing else this proves it.
    Someone mentioned the McCanns, again they displayed stupendously poor judgment and their Child suffered as a result.

    Do I feel sorry for these parents, of course I do, it's a horrific thing to happen.

    As for the comments reported above from social media sites, it's just sick.

    I'm sure these parents thought they were doing the right thing and nothing would happen, they were very wrong, a poor judgement call.
    They didn't cause this to happen, but their absence allowed it to happen.

    don't know if that's practical
    one of my children is 5yrs old
    if there's only one parent at home .how do you keep constant watch while minding other children


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Children will always be children and parents shouldn't smother their kids constantly - though they should be told constantly until it becomes a mantra not to go for anywhere with strangers and even if you know them, make sure to tell your parents first before going anywhere. This is what my parents did with me. Whether or not the parents of this child did this doesn't matter, it's a horrible, horrible situation and I hope she's found safe.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    This is why kids should have tracking devices put in at birth and can be removed at wish when older.

    Personally if I had a 5 year old I definitely wouldnt let him/her out of my sight while in public and have them well aware of strangers and what to do when approached. Unless it was someone she was familiar with which is very possible.


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