Daily Million...Scam??

Maybe every now and again itl randomly pick somebody to win it and u have to hope if it hasnt been won in a while its due to pick a set of winning numbers from the machine. Just dont buy a ticket the day after its won or if thers been a couple of jackpot wins in a short space of time?

Fianna Gayle and Labour are commited to selling the lottery to the highest bidder.The guys in charge now are making as much as they can now from the geniuses who elected Bertie Ahern,Brian Cowen,Edna Kenny,Eamonn Dev Valera.The Paddys are suckers.

The lotto are leaving themselves open to this speculation about a fix by having a computerized simulated draw.People who scoff at the possibility of a scam would do well to remember the fraud that was the Irish hospital sweepstakes.

What I'm saying is they are leaving themselves open to these accusations by having this peculiar kind of draw.Everything should be seen to be clean and above board but in the case of this draw it clearly isn't.

Maybe a bit off topic but why do the lottery only pay out on winning tickets for 90 days after the draw? I back a winner in Paddy Power or similar and as long as i have my docket I'll be paid.No time limit.Just curious.

Abracastabya wrote: »

If you won the lotto you would generally want to collect it well before 90 days though..

Okay,hypocritically I find a lotto ticket down the back of the sofa.I check it and hey presto It has match six numbers. I stroll down to the lottery and they say it's 91 day old.Sorry buddy no million quid for you.Why?

todolist wrote: »

Okay,hypocritically I find a lotto ticket down the back of the sofa.I check it and hey presto It has match six numbers. I stroll down to the lottery and they say it's 91 day old.Sorry buddy no million quid for you.Why?

These lottery rules are worldwide.
There was a couple in England who missed out on £3m this way.
They didn't realise that an extra rule there means that if you lose your ticket you need to report this within 30 days. They were not one of the over 100 false claims that were lodged in this window. In the end they were able to explain why they had chosen those numbers and were able to show lots of losing tickets with the same numbers on them, but even though Camelot said that they believed them, they needed to see the ticket. They never found it.
The £3m got given to good causes!

seantech wrote: »

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

:rolleyes:

seantech wrote: »

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

lol

its not mathematically "impossable" tho. sounds like the guys who are always cursing the last minute goals or black coming out 17 times in a row. it happens. every spin is different to the last. try it urself at home and u will see for urself

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

Sorry but I am beginning to agree with many others who think that the balls are picked by a computer. I laughed when it was first suggested to me, but the statistical facts speak for themselves. I have compiled spread sheets on both the Daily million draws and compared them with the English and Irish national lottery draws. The results are astonishing. There are so many irregularities it’s hard to believe. Believe me, I too though it was a random game of luck. Now with these spread sheets the irregularities are unbelievable.
Here is another one.
8 balls THIS MONTH ALONE, have come out 3 times on the trot.(main draw, seven ball draw)
Check for yourself. Balls, 2, 13, 14 Twice, 21, 26, 32, 37.
Now look to see at any other lottery, over any length of time. The same ball come out 3 times consecutively, NEVER

Meh, I'll humour you even though you don't deserve it.

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/lotto/results/results.ftl
English Lotto. Number 37 came out 3 draws in a row on 29Dec, 02Jan and 05Jan.
Number 14 came out 3 draws in a row starting 08Aug. And omfg 14 came out 3 in a row again starting 12Sep.
Number 7 came out 3 in a row starting 27Oct.

Thats from 5 minutes of perusimg results in the first lottery I looked at.

******

So let me know if you want any help with spreadsheets, as the one you put together seems an utter failure.

@DaveBradford I'm confused; as I am sure others are also. If you were betting on specific balls to come out were you using betslips or online via PaddyPower etc? If so, National Lottery have NO WAY of knowing how much money is wagered on particular numbers dropping?

Paddypower's odds covers his risks and then more. The real odds in the Irish Lotto, if I am correct is 45/1 for 3 numbers; making a 3-number pick on PP quite attractive (as bets go). Reason? 1. PP acts as a filter / firewall against wrongdoing and 2. the odds at 45/1 are worth a go. But that's picking 3 from 3 not 3 from 6, so I am sure that the odds are not 45/1 after all. But they are better odds than the Lottery itself gives. I stand to be corrected on that. Perhaps they're not? But it makes me feel better along with the utility aspect of a flutter. I like to dream.

The Daily Million is is just another clever income stream in preparation for a sell-off of the National Lottery. Where any of these draws are worrying is that it might be possible, if they can control the studio environment, to direct where the winning ticket will be 'won'. And then that would perfectly mimic the marketing scam foisted by the French Lottery a few years back with winning scratchcards allocated to areas defined by marketers. But to control a studio environment is no easy task.
Where there is no live televised draw, it is a simple task to decide which ticket will win and to allocate prizes to areas (even shops) needing a boost. Be it jackpots or smaller prizes. That's just my opinion.

An Ri rua wrote: »

@DaveBradford I'm confused; as I am sure others are also. If you were betting on specific balls to come out were you using betslips or online via PaddyPower etc? If so, National Lottery have NO WAY of knowing how much money is wagered on particular numbers dropping?

Paddypower's odds covers his risks and then more. The real odds in the Irish Lotto, if I am correct is 45/1 for 3 numbers; making a 3-number pick on PP quite attractive (as bets go). Reason? 1. PP acts as a filter / firewall against wrongdoing and 2. the odds at 45/1 are worth a go. But that's picking 3 from 3 not 3 from 6, so I am sure that the odds are not 45/1 after all. But they are better odds than the Lottery itself gives. I stand to be corrected on that. Perhaps they're not? But it makes me feel better along with the utility aspect of a flutter. I like to dream.

The Daily Million is is just another clever income stream in preparation for a sell-off of the National Lottery. Where any of these draws are worrying is that it might be possible, if they can control the studio environment, to direct where the winning ticket will be 'won'. And then that would perfectly mimic the marketing scam foisted by the French Lottery a few years back with winning scratchcards allocated to areas defined by marketers. But to control a studio environment is no easy task.
Where there is no live televised draw, it is a simple task to decide which ticket will win and to allocate prizes to areas (even shops) needing a boost. Be it jackpots or smaller prizes. That's just my opinion.

EDIT> My odds are wrong. I knew that 3 out of 3 from 6 was much worse than 3 from 6. BUt like this post #8 here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56413005 says, I am a SAP... :o

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

yes i am betting on a single numbers, and i will try to explain again. but do not asume the national lottery have no way of knowing how much is wagered on particular balls, or in fact what bets go on at the bookmakers.

ok here we go.
1. i bet on the seven ball draw.
2. i increase my bet every time to cover the last bet. if i loose.
3. i waite for a ball not to be drawn for 25 concecutive days before i place my first bet, 25 days is very rare.

there are 39 balls and 7 are drawn., which is a 1 to 5.6 chance of coming out.to make it easy, lets say 1 in 6.
so if a ball has been missing for 25 days if is 4 times over due.

look at a web site lotteryGen. look at home page, scroll down. look at balls missing sice last appearance. ball 46 missing for 23 draws is there longest missing ball, and remember there are 49 balls not 39.

as from 5th feb. irish daily millions main draw.(7 ball draw). BALL 3 has now been missing for 38 days.

i have been betting on this ball since the 25 draw.

irish daily millions (second draw) ball 13 also went 38 days before it came out (last month)

this is not an isolated incedient, balls in the daily millions, even though there are only 39 seem to go missing for far longer, and the game is only a few months old.

Now go to lotteryGen. click on by frequency, top left hand side. scroll down and look at 'apperances over last 12 draws'.

I concur with other members who think the draw is a computer simulation.

The previous draws have absolutely zero affect on the probability of a number been drawn in a future draw. Each draw is sperate and unique and the odds are the exact same as they were for the previous draw.

As for the bolded bit seriously man stop while your behind! Google the nightingale theory and see for yourself, its a short road to the poorhouse.