Daily Million...Scam??

corcaigh1

Was looking at this new national lottery game daily million on the national lottery website and from what i gather it seems that the draw takes place via computer so whats stopping the national lottery from having the computer picking non winning numbers because they know what numbers have been played??

shocksy

corcaigh1 wrote: »

Was looking at this new national lottery game daily million on the national lottery website and from what i gather it seems that the draw takes place via computer so whats stopping the national lottery from having the computer picking non winning numbers because they know what numbers have been played??

Hardly a scam. All national lottery draws, and I'm sure this one will be no different are independently observed by KPMG, and if it is using a random number generator, that will have had to go through rigorous testing before being approved.

MaosAm

I completely agree that Daily Millions is a scam. The day the game was launched the top prize was won and hasn't been won since (even though the number of winners of each lower category is increasing which to me implies the game is increasing in popularity). 'Independently observed by KPMG' joke!

MaosAm

Today was the 15th draw in Daily Millions and the main prize was only won on the first night! I'm no mathematician but it doesn't require an expert in probability to realise that doesn't add up.

Of course National Lottery can determine a non winning selection of numbers before the draw the same way they can conclude shortly after the draw whether the winning sequence had been played and where the ticket had been purchased.

Do KPMG as 'independent observers' collude with National Lottery? ?

fatherbuzcagney

MaosAm wrote: »

Today was the 15th draw in Daily Millions and the main prize was only won on the first night! I'm no mathematician but it doesn't require an expert in probability to realise that doesn't add up.

Of course National Lottery can determine a non winning selection of numbers before the draw the same way they can conclude shortly after the draw whether the winning sequence had been played and where the ticket had been purchased.

Do KPMG as 'independent observers' collude with National Lottery? ?

yes

corcaigh1

MaosAm wrote: »

Today was the 15th draw in Daily Millions and the main prize was only won on the first night! I'm no mathematician but it doesn't require an expert in probability to realise that doesn't add up.

Of course National Lottery can determine a non winning selection of numbers before the draw the same way they can conclude shortly after the draw whether the winning sequence had been played and where the ticket had been purchased.

Do KPMG as 'independent observers' collude with National Lottery? ?

Absolutely. What arose my suspicions about this game was when i was looking at the details on the lotto.ie website. If you click on "prizes and results/daily million/view draw" you will see that the draw is simulated.

Why dont they show the draw taking place via the real lottery ball machine?? And as you mention nobody has won the top prize or the plus prize in 2 weeks, surely somebody will have picked a winning combination in that time.

I played €10.50 and entered with the plus for 7 days but it will be the last time i enter this game. Total scam i reckon.

FlawedGenius

Maybe every now and again itl randomly pick somebody to win it and u have to hope if it hasnt been won in a while its due to pick a set of winning numbers from the machine. Just dont buy a ticket the day after its won or if thers been a couple of jackpot wins in a short space of time?

corcaigh1

FlawedGenius wrote: »

Maybe every now and again itl randomly pick somebody to win it and u have to hope if it hasnt been won in a while its due to pick a set of winning numbers from the machine. Just dont buy a ticket the day after its won or if thers been a couple of jackpot wins in a short space of time?[/QUOT

Yeah id say thats what there plan is. Let it be won maybe once a month or two. Ill be intersted to see the pattern of winners with it.

todolist

Fianna Gayle and Labour are commited to selling the lottery to the highest bidder.The guys in charge now are making as much as they can now from the geniuses who elected Bertie Ahern,Brian Cowen,Edna Kenny,Eamonn Dev Valera.The Paddys are suckers.

DailyMillion

This could be handy for keeping track of how frequently each number gets drawn - http://www.lottoresults.ie/daily-million-numbers. There's obviously not enough data to draw any conclusions on how random it really is, but could be interesting none-the-less!

duckysauce

bet its only peolple from dublin that win :pac: get a grip lads

rod flanders

There have been 3 daily millions jackpot winners so far and two of the tickets were purchased in Limerick. Also there was a daily millions plus winner in Meath and she got €500,000. I doubt it's fixed or a scam. Just a tax on the stupid.

OldPeculier

rod flanders wrote: »

There have been 3 daily millions jackpot winners so far and two of the tickets were purchased in Limerick. Also there was a daily millions plus winner in Meath and she got €500,000. I doubt it's fixed or a scam. Just a tax on the stupid.

It was in Kingscourt Cavan, it was my cousin that won the €500,000 so I doubt it's a scam!

ShiverinEskimo

todolist

The lotto are leaving themselves open to this speculation about a fix by having a computerized simulated draw.People who scoff at the possibility of a scam would do well to remember the fraud that was the Irish hospital sweepstakes.

Colonel Sanders

todolist wrote: »

The lotto are leaving themselves open to this speculation about a fix by having a computerized simulated draw.People who scoff at the possibility of a scam would do well to remember the fraud that was the Irish hospital sweepstakes.

Do they really need to scam a draw where I assume the pay out ratio is quite low (hence the common held view that the lottery is a tax on those who are bad at maths)

todolist

What I'm saying is they are leaving themselves open to these accusations by having this peculiar kind of draw.Everything should be seen to be clean and above board but in the case of this draw it clearly isn't.

seantech

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

todolist

Maybe a bit off topic but why do the lottery only pay out on winning tickets for 90 days after the draw? I back a winner in Paddy Power or similar and as long as i have my docket I'll be paid.No time limit.Just curious.

Abracastabya

If you won the lotto you would generally want to collect it well before 90 days though..

todolist

Abracastabya wrote: »

If you won the lotto you would generally want to collect it well before 90 days though..

Okay,hypocritically I find a lotto ticket down the back of the sofa.I check it and hey presto It has match six numbers. I stroll down to the lottery and they say it's 91 day old.Sorry buddy no million quid for you.Why?

ShiverinEskimo

I think you mean hypothetically.

The reasons for the limit are likely to help budgeting for future draws and prizes. Someone claiming an 8, 10 or 15 million jackpot a year later when the pot is low could ruin the whole set up and end the lotto.

the groutch

todolist wrote: »

Maybe a bit off topic but why do the lottery only pay out on winning tickets for 90 days after the draw? I back a winner in Paddy Power or similar and as long as i have my docket I'll be paid.No time limit.Just curious.

probably so they don't have the system/database clogged up with thousands of unclaimed prizes of a fiver, or a free scratchcard, etc.

and Paddy Power have a limit of 6 months, or 3 months after the end of the event, whichever is longer.

dxhound2005

In the same way that an Irish ticket very rarely wins the Euromillions top prize the scarcity of Daily Millions jackpot winners is probably down to there being a relatively small numbers of tickets in the draw. If a lot less tickets are bought for each daily draw compared to the Wednesday/Saturday draw (which I suspect is the case without having any proof) then the chances of a winner in any given daily draw are lower since both games have to match 6 out of 6 numbers.

BTW it is not uncommon for the Euromillions winners not to feature an Irish ticket in the top three catergories of prizes or even in the top four like on Oct 23 when the most anyone in Ireland got was €226. Somebody of the conspiracy theory persuasion might see that as a fix as well.


5 + 2 Stars
All Winners 0
Irish Winners 0
€76,874,851


5 + 1 Stars
All Winners 4
Irish Winners 0
€337,504


Match 5
All Winners 5
Irish Winners 0
€90,001


4 + 2 Stars
All Winners 47
Irish Winners 0
€4,787


4 + 1 Stars
All Winners 873
Irish Winners 14
€226

jacool

todolist wrote: »

Okay,hypocritically I find a lotto ticket down the back of the sofa.I check it and hey presto It has match six numbers. I stroll down to the lottery and they say it's 91 day old.Sorry buddy no million quid for you.Why?

These lottery rules are worldwide.
There was a couple in England who missed out on £3m this way.
They didn't realise that an extra rule there means that if you lose your ticket you need to report this within 30 days. They were not one of the over 100 false claims that were lodged in this window. In the end they were able to explain why they had chosen those numbers and were able to show lots of losing tickets with the same numbers on them, but even though Camelot said that they believed them, they needed to see the ticket. They never found it.
The £3m got given to good causes!

cooperguy

The odds of winning that draw is 1 in 3,200,000 so its not that surprising how often it has been won!

Fighting Irish

seantech wrote: »

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

:rolleyes:

Abracastabya

seantech wrote: »

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

Sounds like you bought too many daily million tickets

DAVE BRADFORD

MONDAY MILLIONS WAS A SCAM AND SO IS THE DAILY MILLION, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I started to bet on the monday millions including the the bonus ball. Betting on a single number at 4/1, but only after it had been missing for 22 weeks. At first (and i am talking 2 and 1/2 years ago) i bet a very small amount and increased the amount to cover the stake each time. within a few weeks i won. the system worked, and in two years I won loads.then at the start of 2012 i got very confident and started to increase my betting big time.However the balls were taking longer and longer to come out, increasing to 27 then 29 and 30 weeks or more. I was betting on ball 33, and after 34 weeks i made a complaint, saying it was almost a mathimatical imposabilty not to come out . two weeks later the ball still had not come out, and the game was stopped.that was on the 10th september.I lost thousands.
However the new game Daily millions came out and i have been watching very closely.
I have logged down all the balls that come out when they go more than 22 days. I started to bet on ball 21 when it went missing after 25 days. That was on christmas day.Ironic it has now gone 31 days and still not come out.I am sure it will never come out as i am upto £200 on single ball.This would back up the theory that the balls must be picked by a computer. the more that is bet on a number, the less chance it has of coming out.Tomorrow is the 1st of Jan 2013. KEEP WATCHING FOR BALL 21.

Collie D

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

MONDAY MILLIONS WAS A SCAM AND SO IS THE DAILY MILLION, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I started to bet on the monday millions including the the bonus ball. Betting on a single number at 4/1, but only after it had been missing for 22 weeks. At first (and i am talking 2 and 1/2 years ago) i bet a very small amount and increased the amount to cover the stake each time. within a few weeks i won. the system worked, and in two years I won loads.then at the start of 2012 i got very confident and started to increase my betting big time.However the balls were taking longer and longer to come out, increasing to 27 then 29 and 30 weeks or more. I was betting on ball 33, and after 34 weeks i made a complaint, saying it was almost a mathimatical imposabilty not to come out . two weeks later the ball still had not come out, and the game was stopped.that was on the 10th september.I lost thousands.
However the new game Daily millions came out and i have been watching very closely.
I have logged down all the balls that come out when they go more than 22 days. I started to bet on ball 21 when it went missing after 25 days. That was on christmas day.Ironic it has now gone 31 days and still not come out.I am sure it will never come out as i am upto £200 on single ball.This would back up the theory that the balls must be picked by a computer. the more that is bet on a number, the less chance it has of coming out.Tomorrow is the 1st of Jan 2013. KEEP WATCHING FOR BALL 21.

I don't know where to start with this post.

Fighting Irish

seantech wrote: »

There should be one million prize every day. If anyone holds a lottery or a prize draw they have to put up the prize for that draw. What is happening here is fraud.

There is no roll over and they are selling the same prize every day over and over again. I wrote to them and they said that this is OK to do this. It is not OK to do this it is misleading and scamming people.

lol

TheMilkyPirate

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

MONDAY MILLIONS WAS A SCAM AND SO IS THE DAILY MILLION, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I started to bet on the monday millions including the the bonus ball. Betting on a single number at 4/1, but only after it had been missing for 22 weeks. At first (and i am talking 2 and 1/2 years ago) i bet a very small amount and increased the amount to cover the stake each time. within a few weeks i won. the system worked, and in two years I won loads.then at the start of 2012 i got very confident and started to increase my betting big time.However the balls were taking longer and longer to come out, increasing to 27 then 29 and 30 weeks or more. I was betting on ball 33, and after 34 weeks i made a complaint, saying it was almost a mathimatical imposabilty not to come out . two weeks later the ball still had not come out, and the game was stopped.that was on the 10th september.I lost thousands.
However the new game Daily millions came out and i have been watching very closely.
I have logged down all the balls that come out when they go more than 22 days. I started to bet on ball 21 when it went missing after 25 days. That was on christmas day.Ironic it has now gone 31 days and still not come out.I am sure it will never come out as i am upto £200 on single ball.This would back up the theory that the balls must be picked by a computer. the more that is bet on a number, the less chance it has of coming out.Tomorrow is the 1st of Jan 2013. KEEP WATCHING FOR BALL 21.

You need to stop gambling, And you need to do it now.

Your not good at it.

Extinction

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

MONDAY MILLIONS WAS A SCAM AND SO IS THE DAILY MILLION, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I started to bet on the monday millions including the the bonus ball. Betting on a single number at 4/1, but only after it had been missing for 22 weeks. At first (and i am talking 2 and 1/2 years ago) i bet a very small amount and increased the amount to cover the stake each time. within a few weeks i won. the system worked, and in two years I won loads.then at the start of 2012 i got very confident and started to increase my betting big time.However the balls were taking longer and longer to come out, increasing to 27 then 29 and 30 weeks or more. I was betting on ball 33, and after 34 weeks i made a complaint, saying it was almost a mathimatical imposabilty not to come out . two weeks later the ball still had not come out, and the game was stopped.that was on the 10th september.I lost thousands.
However the new game Daily millions came out and i have been watching very closely.
I have logged down all the balls that come out when they go more than 22 days. I started to bet on ball 21 when it went missing after 25 days. That was on christmas day.Ironic it has now gone 31 days and still not come out.I am sure it will never come out as i am upto £200 on single ball.This would back up the theory that the balls must be picked by a computer. the more that is bet on a number, the less chance it has of coming out.Tomorrow is the 1st of Jan 2013. KEEP WATCHING FOR BALL 21.

21 was drawn on Christmas day, did you win?

http://www.lottery.ie/en/Prizes-and-Results/?game=daily-million

FlawedGenius

21 was drawn today aswell

skeleton_boy

Hahaha people signing up to bitch about Daily Million, I've seen it all now :pac:

john_cappa

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

MONDAY MILLIONS WAS A SCAM AND SO IS THE DAILY MILLION, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
I started to bet on the monday millions including the the bonus ball. Betting on a single number at 4/1, but only after it had been missing for 22 weeks. At first (and i am talking 2 and 1/2 years ago) i bet a very small amount and increased the amount to cover the stake each time. within a few weeks i won. the system worked, and in two years I won loads.then at the start of 2012 i got very confident and started to increase my betting big time.However the balls were taking longer and longer to come out, increasing to 27 then 29 and 30 weeks or more. I was betting on ball 33, and after 34 weeks i made a complaint, saying it was almost a mathimatical imposabilty not to come out . two weeks later the ball still had not come out, and the game was stopped.that was on the 10th september.I lost thousands.
However the new game Daily millions came out and i have been watching very closely.
I have logged down all the balls that come out when they go more than 22 days. I started to bet on ball 21 when it went missing after 25 days. That was on christmas day.Ironic it has now gone 31 days and still not come out.I am sure it will never come out as i am upto £200 on single ball.This would back up the theory that the balls must be picked by a computer. the more that is bet on a number, the less chance it has of coming out.Tomorrow is the 1st of Jan 2013. KEEP WATCHING FOR BALL 21.

lolling so so hard at this!

Kidchameleon

I understand that they cant do the draw every day at rte but surely they could stream a proper draw on the website instead of this computer generated crap?

DAVE BRADFORD

my apologies, i should of said (second draw) including the bonus ball . the ball 21 did come out on new years day after missing for a record 32 days.however its now ball 13 turn. now missing for 32 days 33 tomorrow. 20th jan 2013

DAVE BRADFORD

DAILY MILLIONS. MAIN DRAW (SEVEN BALL DRAW) BALL 14 HAS COME OUT 7 TIMES IN THE LAST EIGHT DAYS, mathematically impossable. Ball 13 in the second draw has not come in 32 days (seven ball draw)
supporting computer generated numbers.

If your betting on a single ball (hotpicks) covering the bonus ball, you have a one in 5.5 chance of it coming out, times this by 32 draws the ball should have come out almost 6 times.(on average).

7 balls times 32 days = 224 balls drawn, and ball 13 has not come out.
This daily millions is another con

Mr E

It's COMPLETELY RANDOM. Balls aren't "destined" to come out. National Lottery games are games of chance - if you're analysing numbers expecting them to come out (just because they haven't been out for a while), you're wasting your time.

ianburke

its not mathematically "impossable" tho. sounds like the guys who are always cursing the last minute goals or black coming out 17 times in a row. it happens. every spin is different to the last. try it urself at home and u will see for urself

DAVE BRADFORD

Sorry but I am beginning to agree with many others who think that the balls are picked by a computer. I laughed when it was first suggested to me, but the statistical facts speak for themselves. I have compiled spread sheets on both the Daily million draws and compared them with the English and Irish national lottery draws. The results are astonishing. There are so many irregularities it’s hard to believe. Believe me, I too though it was a random game of luck. Now with these spread sheets the irregularities are unbelievable.
Here is another one.
8 balls THIS MONTH ALONE, have come out 3 times on the trot.(main draw, seven ball draw)
Check for yourself. Balls, 2, 13, 14 Twice, 21, 26, 32, 37.
Now look to see at any other lottery, over any length of time. The same ball come out 3 times consecutively, NEVER

ArmaniJeanss

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

Sorry but I am beginning to agree with many others who think that the balls are picked by a computer. I laughed when it was first suggested to me, but the statistical facts speak for themselves. I have compiled spread sheets on both the Daily million draws and compared them with the English and Irish national lottery draws. The results are astonishing. There are so many irregularities it’s hard to believe. Believe me, I too though it was a random game of luck. Now with these spread sheets the irregularities are unbelievable.
Here is another one.
8 balls THIS MONTH ALONE, have come out 3 times on the trot.(main draw, seven ball draw)
Check for yourself. Balls, 2, 13, 14 Twice, 21, 26, 32, 37.
Now look to see at any other lottery, over any length of time. The same ball come out 3 times consecutively, NEVER

Meh, I'll humour you even though you don't deserve it.

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/lotto/results/results.ftl
English Lotto. Number 37 came out 3 draws in a row on 29Dec, 02Jan and 05Jan.
Number 14 came out 3 draws in a row starting 08Aug. And omfg 14 came out 3 in a row again starting 12Sep.
Number 7 came out 3 in a row starting 27Oct.

Thats from 5 minutes of perusimg results in the first lottery I looked at.

******

So let me know if you want any help with spreadsheets, as the one you put together seems an utter failure.

DAVE BRADFORD

A full apology and I stand corrected .My mistake, I was looking at Saturday/ Wednesday in isolation.
SORRY. no intention to miss lead anyone on my part.

Interestingly I have stumbled on a website called lotteygen.co.uk that gives fantastic statistics on the English lotto

With 49 balls you would think that there would be balls missing with a greater number of draws


(Sorry unable to copy and paste table from the site) but the top 3 balls are

ball 46 missing 23 draws
ball 1 missing 13 draws
ball 16 missing 10 draws

The daily millions second draw to date 24th jan, and you can compare

Ball 13 missing 36 draws
Ball 14 missing 16 draws
Ball22 missing 14 draws

You would of thought with daily millions having only 39 balls the statistics would be the other way round


I still agree with past member who thinks quote

‘The lotto are leaving themselves open to this speculation about a fix by having a computerized simulated draw.People who scoff at the possibility of a scam would do well to remember the fraud that was the Irish hospital sweepstakes’.

An Ri rua

@DaveBradford I'm confused; as I am sure others are also. If you were betting on specific balls to come out were you using betslips or online via PaddyPower etc? If so, National Lottery have NO WAY of knowing how much money is wagered on particular numbers dropping?

Paddypower's odds covers his risks and then more. The real odds in the Irish Lotto, if I am correct is 45/1 for 3 numbers; making a 3-number pick on PP quite attractive (as bets go). Reason? 1. PP acts as a filter / firewall against wrongdoing and 2. the odds at 45/1 are worth a go. But that's picking 3 from 3 not 3 from 6, so I am sure that the odds are not 45/1 after all. But they are better odds than the Lottery itself gives. I stand to be corrected on that. Perhaps they're not? But it makes me feel better along with the utility aspect of a flutter. I like to dream.

The Daily Million is is just another clever income stream in preparation for a sell-off of the National Lottery. Where any of these draws are worrying is that it might be possible, if they can control the studio environment, to direct where the winning ticket will be 'won'. And then that would perfectly mimic the marketing scam foisted by the French Lottery a few years back with winning scratchcards allocated to areas defined by marketers. But to control a studio environment is no easy task.
Where there is no live televised draw, it is a simple task to decide which ticket will win and to allocate prizes to areas (even shops) needing a boost. Be it jackpots or smaller prizes. That's just my opinion.

linvoysblues

From observations, I've noticed that most 'new' lottery games seem to give less and less of a payout statistically. A few seem to not last very long, as it doesn't take long for players to figure out that this game isn't worth while. By this point, they've made their money and are preparing another new money spinner.

An Ri rua

An Ri rua wrote: »

@DaveBradford I'm confused; as I am sure others are also. If you were betting on specific balls to come out were you using betslips or online via PaddyPower etc? If so, National Lottery have NO WAY of knowing how much money is wagered on particular numbers dropping?

Paddypower's odds covers his risks and then more. The real odds in the Irish Lotto, if I am correct is 45/1 for 3 numbers; making a 3-number pick on PP quite attractive (as bets go). Reason? 1. PP acts as a filter / firewall against wrongdoing and 2. the odds at 45/1 are worth a go. But that's picking 3 from 3 not 3 from 6, so I am sure that the odds are not 45/1 after all. But they are better odds than the Lottery itself gives. I stand to be corrected on that. Perhaps they're not? But it makes me feel better along with the utility aspect of a flutter. I like to dream.

The Daily Million is is just another clever income stream in preparation for a sell-off of the National Lottery. Where any of these draws are worrying is that it might be possible, if they can control the studio environment, to direct where the winning ticket will be 'won'. And then that would perfectly mimic the marketing scam foisted by the French Lottery a few years back with winning scratchcards allocated to areas defined by marketers. But to control a studio environment is no easy task.
Where there is no live televised draw, it is a simple task to decide which ticket will win and to allocate prizes to areas (even shops) needing a boost. Be it jackpots or smaller prizes. That's just my opinion.

EDIT> My odds are wrong. I knew that 3 out of 3 from 6 was much worse than 3 from 6. BUt like this post #8 here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56413005 says, I am a SAP... :o

DAVE BRADFORD

An Ri rua wrote: »

@DaveBradford I'm confused; as I am sure others are also. If you were betting on specific balls to come out were you using betslips or online via PaddyPower etc? If so, National Lottery have NO WAY of knowing how much money is wagered on particular numbers dropping?

Paddypower's odds covers his risks and then more. The real odds in the Irish Lotto, if I am correct is 45/1 for 3 numbers; making a 3-number pick on PP quite attractive (as bets go). Reason? 1. PP acts as a filter / firewall against wrongdoing and 2. the odds at 45/1 are worth a go. But that's picking 3 from 3 not 3 from 6, so I am sure that the odds are not 45/1 after all. But they are better odds than the Lottery itself gives. I stand to be corrected on that. Perhaps they're not? But it makes me feel better along with the utility aspect of a flutter. I like to dream.

The Daily Million is is just another clever income stream in preparation for a sell-off of the National Lottery. Where any of these draws are worrying is that it might be possible, if they can control the studio environment, to direct where the winning ticket will be 'won'. And then that would perfectly mimic the marketing scam foisted by the French Lottery a few years back with winning scratchcards allocated to areas defined by marketers. But to control a studio environment is no easy task.
Where there is no live televised draw, it is a simple task to decide which ticket will win and to allocate prizes to areas (even shops) needing a boost. Be it jackpots or smaller prizes. That's just my opinion.

yes i am betting on a single numbers, and i will try to explain again. but do not asume the national lottery have no way of knowing how much is wagered on particular balls, or in fact what bets go on at the bookmakers.

ok here we go.
1. i bet on the seven ball draw.
2. i increase my bet every time to cover the last bet. if i loose.
3. i waite for a ball not to be drawn for 25 concecutive days before i place my first bet, 25 days is very rare.

there are 39 balls and 7 are drawn., which is a 1 to 5.6 chance of coming out.to make it easy, lets say 1 in 6.
so if a ball has been missing for 25 days if is 4 times over due.

look at a web site lotteryGen. look at home page, scroll down. look at balls missing sice last appearance. ball 46 missing for 23 draws is there longest missing ball, and remember there are 49 balls not 39.

as from 5th feb. irish daily millions main draw.(7 ball draw). BALL 3 has now been missing for 38 days.

i have been betting on this ball since the 25 draw.

irish daily millions (second draw) ball 13 also went 38 days before it came out (last month)

this is not an isolated incedient, balls in the daily millions, even though there are only 39 seem to go missing for far longer, and the game is only a few months old.

Now go to lotteryGen. click on by frequency, top left hand side. scroll down and look at 'apperances over last 12 draws'.

I concur with other members who think the draw is a computer simulation.

deconduo

That's not how statistics work. Whether a number doesn't show up for 100 days or it shows up 100 days in a row, the very next draw has the exact same odds for it to show up. Its completely random, and previous draws have no effect on the outcome.

ianburke

deconduo wrote: »

That's not how statistics work. Whether a number doesn't show up for 100 days or it shows up 100 days in a row, the very next draw has the exact same odds for it to show up. Its completely random, and previous draws have no effect on the outcome.

exactly. if ur mans theory was correct we would all be millionaires

premierstone

DAVE BRADFORD wrote: »

yes i am betting on a single numbers, and i will try to explain again. but do not asume the national lottery have no way of knowing how much is wagered on particular balls, or in fact what bets go on at the bookmakers.

ok here we go.
1. i bet on the seven ball draw.
2. i increase my bet every time to cover the last bet. if i loose.
3. i waite for a ball not to be drawn for 25 concecutive days before i place my first bet, 25 days is very rare.

there are 39 balls and 7 are drawn., which is a 1 to 5.6 chance of coming out.to make it easy, lets say 1 in 6.
so if a ball has been missing for 25 days if is 4 times over due.

look at a web site lotteryGen. look at home page, scroll down. look at balls missing sice last appearance. ball 46 missing for 23 draws is there longest missing ball, and remember there are 49 balls not 39.

as from 5th feb. irish daily millions main draw.(7 ball draw). BALL 3 has now been missing for 38 days.

i have been betting on this ball since the 25 draw.

irish daily millions (second draw) ball 13 also went 38 days before it came out (last month)

this is not an isolated incedient, balls in the daily millions, even though there are only 39 seem to go missing for far longer, and the game is only a few months old.

Now go to lotteryGen. click on by frequency, top left hand side. scroll down and look at 'apperances over last 12 draws'.

I concur with other members who think the draw is a computer simulation.

The previous draws have absolutely zero affect on the probability of a number been drawn in a future draw. Each draw is sperate and unique and the odds are the exact same as they were for the previous draw.

As for the bolded bit seriously man stop while your behind! Google the nightingale theory and see for yourself, its a short road to the poorhouse.