Mazda 6 mps...good value???

ShadowHearth · 26-09-2012 04:22PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Fair point, I was just considering the cost of running it in this day and age !

just a wee bit more then 1.9 TDI audi.

Matt Simis · 26-09-2012 04:29PM

The Mazda ATS system isnt 80:20 bias in normal driving though, its 100:0. Its a FWD platform with upto and max 50% split to the rear.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5306390_mazdas-split-wheel-drive-work.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKRfimXH6oY

At 1:25 they mention the torque split.

gollywog · 26-09-2012 04:45PM

Chriscl1 wrote: »

Really like the mps, red is the only colour for me though

Gorgeous wheels... what are they and how much if you dont mind me asking?

langdang · 26-09-2012 04:50PM

gollywog wrote: »

Gorgeous wheels... what are they and how much if you dont mind me asking?

I don't think that's his car, it certainly doesn't look like kildare in the background of that pic!

gollywog · 26-09-2012 04:54PM

langdang wrote: »

I don't think that's his car, it certainly doesn't look like kildare in the background of that pic!

Oh ok, my bad!! Love them whhels though!

langdang · 26-09-2012 05:00PM

Rota Bellas?

not my area of expertise, but a fan of black wheels with red trim alright.

26-09-2012 05:01PM

My bad about the torque split ratio but when they're on rolling roads with no cause for the rears to kick in, the rear wheels have been known to drive.

Matt Simis · 26-09-2012 05:04PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

My bad about the torque split ratio but when they're on rolling roads with no cause for the rears to kick in, the rear wheels have been known to drive.

Yep, I actually read that too. No idea why it does it though, its not meant to.. :P

langdang · 26-09-2012 05:05PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

My bad about the torque split ratio but when they're on rolling roads with no cause for the rears to kick in, the rear wheels have been known to drive.

Surely they'd be guaranteed to drive on a rolling road - front wheels turning faster than the rear, computer thinks fronts are "spinning", sends power to the rear?

Tea 1000 · 26-09-2012 06:08PM

fletch wrote: »

I think it looks good on this

That's kind of grey though! "Silver" is an insult to that colour!

langdang wrote: »

Surely they'd be guaranteed to drive on a rolling road - front wheels turning faster than the rear, computer thinks fronts are "spinning", sends power to the rear?

I would have thought that too??

26-09-2012 07:05PM

langdang wrote: »

Surely they'd be guaranteed to drive on a rolling road - front wheels turning faster than the rear, computer thinks fronts are "spinning", sends power to the rear?

This is the best explanation I've ever heard for it!

langdang · 26-09-2012 07:33PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

This is the best explanation I've ever heard for it!

My experience would be of the Honda Dual pump system used in the CRV / HRV.
It's a beautiful system in an engineering sense, no electronics just a mechanical/hydraulic system.

Not as dynamic, or high tech as other systems, can't handle the same power as other systems (doubt it gets anywhere near 50:50), not for heavy duty work, but a very "elegant" solution to part time 4wd and it doesn't go bonkers if a sensor or control module goes AWOL.
More than 3% difference in wheel speed between front and back pushes the clutch plates together, simple as. No LSD though - learned that the hard way haha!

In the case of the MPS, I'm guessing it's ABS sensors or something keep track of what wheel is doing what.

26-09-2012 07:40PM

I'm not familiar with that Honda system but I do know that the MPS system is excellent and works very well. I had to take my parents' '07 C180 to work one day and I found the car skidding on a few turns where the MPS wouldn't have hinted at a poor surface.

04-10-2012 04:55PM

OP - any update for us?? Are you zoom-zooming yet?

challengemaster · 04-10-2012 05:03PM

Tea 1000 wrote: »

That's kind of grey though! "Silver" is an insult to that colour!

That's silver it's just been photoshopped to fcuk and back. Looks like bad editing resulting in the whole colour range being compressed, and silver turning to that murky grey

05-10-2012 06:25PM

He must have bought it since he hasn't been here in a while :pac:

Tea 1000 · 05-10-2012 11:25PM

challengemaster wrote: »

That's silver it's just been photoshopped to fcuk and back. Looks like bad editing resulting in the whole colour range being compressed, and silver turning to that murky grey

Thought that alright, but genuine or not, the result looks far better than regular plain silver!

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

He must have bought it since he hasn't been here in a while :pac:

He can't slow down long enough to post!

Supergurrier · 05-10-2012 11:30PM

Maybe the car ate his computer as it thought it was a petrol pump

Tea 1000 · 06-10-2012 12:30AM

Supergurrier wrote: »

Maybe the car ate his computer as it thought it was a petrol pump

Or maybe the turbo sucked in his computer and shat it out the exhaust in the direction of a TDi...

22-10-2012 12:03PM

Not 1 3MPS or 6MPS for sale on done deal, 2 6MPS's left on carzone both black. The silver one the OP was interested in is gone so either he's very sad or very happy.

From his silence, I doubt we will ever know

bazz26 · 22-10-2012 12:10PM

The OP has posted 61 times in 3 years so your probably right. Actually what is the story with that black/navy 3 MPS on carzone, it doesn't look like a real MPS but is listed as being one.

22-10-2012 12:17PM

bazz26 wrote: »

The OP has posted 61 times in 3 years so your probably right. Actually what is the story with that black/navy 3 MPS on carzone, it doesn't look like a real MPS but is listed as being one.

You're right, it's not an MPS at all. It's just that it comes up in the search due to the fact that it's just advertising space. Often times, a 2.2 diesel 6 will come up in a search for 6 MPS.

bazz26 · 22-10-2012 12:28PM

A 2.3 litre bog standard 3 is pretty pointless and sale proof in this country, the seller is living in denial asking €8k for an almost 7 year old one.

22-10-2012 12:33PM

Yep, that red one came up in conversation before. It's got no cruise control and no stereo buttons even on the wheel, it has a Kenwood or similar CD player whereas they normally have a factory unit that takes up that whole dash section.

It's a bog man's bog standard paddy spec!

MuppetCheck · 22-10-2012 01:12PM

Is it a Jap import? Sounds like the kind of ones that were brought in from there.

yop · 22-10-2012 01:42PM

I still miss mine

The economy was cracking though.... wasn't it!

Found Irish garages (well Mayo Mazda!) were nuts expensive to get it serviced. Took it to Pat Kirk in Coalisland, cost 300 euro less and they gave it a valet!!!!

You won't regret buying one, I am no car expert, but I thought they were a great drive.

The economy was cracking too.....

22-10-2012 02:31PM

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Is it a Jap import? Sounds like the kind of ones that were brought in from there.

I would think so, the rear bumper has the shape for an EU plate but you can see that there was a plate mounted in the middle and no holes where you would normally find them with an EU plate.

My RX8 was a Jap import and came with cloth seats, no cruise, nothing but it did have the proper CD changer with steering wheel controls.

EDIT: This proves it's a Jap import -

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yop wrote: »

I still miss mine

The economy was cracking though.... wasn't it!

Found Irish garages (well Mayo Mazda!) were nuts expensive to get it serviced. Took it to Pat Kirk in Coalisland, cost 300 euro less and they gave it a valet!!!!

You won't regret buying one, I am no car expert, but I thought they were a great drive.

The economy was cracking too.....

I don't miss mine at all to be honest!

I did all my own servicing on it so have no idea what Mazda were like. The service items themselves were very cheap from Mazda though which was surprising. Sure wasn't like that with the RX8.

Economy good??? You sure you're on about the same car? :P

coolisin · 22-10-2012 03:56PM

Yops was a 3MPS Right?
Maybe its the torque steer he misses!
Really MM ive found normal parts for the mazda 3 expensive.

That Red MPS is a japan import and has being sitting in that garage for over 4 years now, the mazdaspeed stitched into the seats is a give away. Dunno why but i just wouldn't touch it, maybe its the lunatic price.
Pity the regular 2.3/2.0 would never sell here because i think they suit the 3 nicely.

You don't get the torque steer from it, its just a nice bit of power but not too much.

yop · 22-10-2012 03:57PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Economy good??? You sure you're on about the same car? :P

Oh ya, it was at least getting into double figures

yop · 22-10-2012 03:58PM

coolisin wrote: »

Yops was a 3MPS Right?
Maybe its the torque steer he misses!
Really MM ive found normal parts for the mazda 3 expensive.

That Red MPS is a japan import and has being sitting in that garage for over 4 years now, the mazdaspeed stitched into the seats is a give away. Dunno why but i just wouldn't touch it, maybe its the lunatic price.
Pity the regular 2.3/2.0 would never sell here because i think they suit the 3 nicely.

You don't get the torque steer from it, its just a nice bit of power but not too much.

It was the 6 I had, miss it for pure power, the old ST TDCI just does'nt do it lol

Mazda 6 mps...good value???

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