Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

extra gravy · 24-09-2012 05:41PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Did you scream?

It was more of a dignified yelp which was greeted with bemusement by a large group of Mayo supporters who had their back to the tv!

24-09-2012 05:43PM

gosplan wrote: »

Ah, we all approach fandom in our own way. Some get behind the team in a crisis but point out their flaws when all is apparently rosy.

I'm personally an ultra-positive. Not always realistic though.

Every team has their flaws man, we are working under more constraints than the 3 teams above us in the league, so anything over fourth is a bonus, especially after losing two regulars from previous years, that's realistic.;)
We won't win the league IMO, but I sure hope we try.

gosplan · 24-09-2012 05:49PM

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

We won't win the league IMO, but I sure hope we try.

Ahem.

gosplan wrote:

I'm personally an ultra-positive

What are you talking about. It's in the bag.

HazDanz · 24-09-2012 05:54PM

No other team in the league so far has played better stuff than us. Early days to talk about title contenders but we are definitely in the mix. Our squad is much more meatier this time around, keep the rotations going when we can and keep injuries low and it's hard not to get excited.

My one wish is for Giroud to get off the mark, the lad needs a goal badly

24-09-2012 05:55PM

gosplan wrote: »

Ahem.

What are you talking about. It's in the bag.

I applaud your optimism and confidence, I will wait until I see more before I really believe it, but I was happy enough with how the team do this year based on what Wenger has done by shipping out players who weren't fully committed, brought in some fantastic mature talent and with what Bould has done from the ground up.
I do feel any team will be worried having to play us home or away.:)

Mickeroo · 24-09-2012 06:06PM

HazDanz wrote: »

My one wish is for Giroud to get off the mark, the lad needs a goal badly

I'd like to see him start against Coventry for this reason.

Anyone know if that match is on TV at all? I know sky aren't showing it.

emergingstar · 24-09-2012 06:08PM

Just a quick mention for banfield, it's not all boulds influence, banfield is prob just as important

jordainius · 24-09-2012 06:25PM

Don't think we'll win the league but if Szczesny returns to his best form, Giroud starts scoring, and Wilshere can carry on from where he left off; then anything is possible.

This is undoubtedly a much better team than last season in term of its all round game, but the missing piece at present is a forward who we know can bag us 20 goals a season. Gervinho ain't the answer, I believe Giroud will come good; the only question is when? In the meantime, I've always been curious to see how Walcott would do in the central striker position....

HazDanz · 24-09-2012 06:32PM

jordainius wrote: »

Don't think we'll win the league but if Szczesny returns to his best form, Giroud starts scoring, and Wilshere can carry on from where he left off; then anything is possible.

This is undoubtedly a much better team than last season in term of its all round game, but the missing piece at present is a forward who we know can bag us 20 goals a season. Gervinho ain't the answer, I believe Giroud will come good; the only question is when? In the meantime, I've always been curious to see how Walcott would do in the central striker position....

......on the bench. Until he signs his god damn contract.

HazDanz · 24-09-2012 06:33PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'd like to see him start against Coventry for this reason.

Anyone know if that match is on TV at all? I know sky aren't showing it.

Don't think it's on tv... I agree it would be a nice one for him to bag a goal in.

jordainius · 24-09-2012 06:39PM

HazDanz wrote: »

......on the bench. Until he signs his god damn contract.

We'll not see much of him so! Wenger has form here; Edu spent pretty much the entire season on the bench back in 2005 in very similar circumstances.

robby^5 · 24-09-2012 07:16PM

If Giroud starts against Coventry then I'd like to see Theo given a chance to play up front against Chelsea. Say what you want about him, but over the past two seasons he's played brilliantly against Chelsea imo.

extra gravy · 24-09-2012 07:25PM

robby^5 wrote: »

If Giroud starts against Coventry then I'd like to see Theo given a chance to play up front against Chelsea. Say what you want about him, but over the past two seasons he's played brilliantly against Chelsea imo.

http://news.arseblog.com/2012/09/walcott-says-its-about-time-hes-given-striking-role/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

He agrees. Wonder how Wenger will react to this. Sick of Theo and all his sh1te talk, it's about time he started walking the walk or else fcuk off.

tayto lover · 24-09-2012 08:38PM

robby^5 wrote: »

If Giroud starts against Coventry then I'd like to see Theo given a chance to play up front against Chelsea. Say what you want about him, but over the past two seasons he's played brilliantly against Chelsea imo.

I don't like Walcott at all BUT I agree that he should start against Chelsea. I believe that there are "horses for courses" and Walcott does indeed play well against Chelsea. We need a good confident team and I think we are good enough to beat Chelsea.

greendom · 24-09-2012 08:54PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't like Walcott at all BUT I agree that he should start against Chelsea. I believe that there are "horses for courses" and Walcott does indeed play well against Chelsea. We need a good confident team and I think we are good enough to beat Chelsea.

AVB was very generous with Walcott last season at Stamford Bridge with playing such a high defensive line. Will RDM be as generous.

kronsington · 24-09-2012 08:55PM

I dont understand the logic in some people saying walcott should automatically start the game against chelsea because he has played well against them in the past. The current side is playing well and everyone in there deserves to be there on merit. He has to earn his place back in the side and maybe demonstrate why he thinks he is worth 100k a week

emergingstar · 24-09-2012 09:26PM

I'm not liking the medias angle that Walcott is been frozen out
If he signs a shiny new contract next week would he start every game
In this new system not a hope

Galvasean · 24-09-2012 09:29PM

Theo is best used as an impact sub and the sooner he acknowledges that he isn't the second coming of Christ the better.

HazDanz · 24-09-2012 10:02PM

To me Walcott embodies what was wrong with our former set up. He believes he deserves a chance as a striker even though he hasn't developed himself well enough to make a final pass. What a joke. He has had all of last season to cement his winger spot and he hasn't managed to do that as he let so many games pass him by with mediocre performances showing a lack of leadership and guts. Even his Chelsea performance at the emirates last season, he was rubbish in the first half, it was only the second half that we saw any product from him. You can say what you like about Gervinho yesterday but at least he keeps trying. His day in the sun will come if he keeps up his work rate as he has surprised with so far this season.

I just think it's funny that Walcott thinks he will be the focal point of this team without any credible evidence from recent performances to back it up. I can just imagine Cazorla putting it all on a plate for the man and then have a procession of sliced balls being produced by wally.

Give the role to Gerv, Pod or Giroud. At least they are not spouting juvenile rubbish of where they think they should play and are happy to be contributing to AFC in whatever way the club sees fit.

Galvasean · 24-09-2012 10:07PM

Sorry, was away all weekend. Here's the tally.

Gervinho 3 (2)
Podolski 3 (2)
Mr. Owen Goal 2 (2)
Koscielny 1 (1)
Cazorla 1 (1)
Walcott 1 (1)

* league goals in brackets

Galvasean · 24-09-2012 10:09PM

HazDanz wrote: »

You can say what you like about Gervinho yesterday but at least he keeps trying.

Just had that very conversation with my dad earlier today. he's like the anti-Arshavin; not all that skillful, but damnit at least you know you're gonna get 100% from him.

HazDanz · 24-09-2012 10:14PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Just had that very conversation with my dad earlier today. he's like the anti-Arshavin; not all that skillful, but damnit at least you know you're gonna get 100% from him.

I think he is brilliant at making just enough room to have a shot or to cross a decent ball. He just needs to compose himself in those moments and he will be on another level. He looks hungry this season, it's refreshing to see. I couldn't believe my eyes yesterday when I saw him in the LB position winning the ball back for us, it was excellent.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 24-09-2012 10:51PM

In fairness to theo finishing is one of his main strong points so perhaps he's worth a shot up top the odd time if he can get the sort of chances Gervinho ha bbeen getting.

Still he shouldn't really be moaning about not being a main stay until he starts putting in consistently competent all round performances

HazDanz wrote: »

I think he is brilliant at making just enough room to have a shot or to cross a decent ball. He just needs to compose himself in those moments and he will be on another level. He looks hungry this season, it's refreshing to see. I couldn't believe my eyes yesterday when I saw him in the LB position winning the ball back for us, it was excellent.

If you could combine him with someone like eduardos finishing he would be lethal

Galvasean · 25-09-2012 01:17AM

Anyone else see that movie Olivier Giroud was in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ4KzClb1C4

Pride Fighter · 25-09-2012 07:42AM

jordainius wrote: »

Don't think we'll win the league but if Szczesny returns to his best form, Giroud starts scoring, and Wilshere can carry on from where he left off; then anything is possible.

This is undoubtedly a much better team than last season in term of its all round game, but the missing piece at present is a forward who we know can bag us 20 goals a season. Gervinho ain't the answer, I believe Giroud will come good; the only question is when? In the meantime, I've always been curious to see how Walcott would do in the central striker position....

Chamakh hit the ground running and has been a flop. I think Giroud will come good too, it'll just take time. Not every player from a different league slots into the PL as easily as Podolski and Hazard has at Chelsea.

As for the GK position, this might be controversial but I'd keep Mannone there over Szcezny. He's earned the right to be there and we've done well with him so far.

emergingstar · 25-09-2012 07:49AM

Pride Fighter wrote: »

jordainius wrote: »

Don't think we'll win the league but if Szczesny returns to his best form, Giroud starts scoring, and Wilshere can carry on from where he left off; then anything is possible.

This is undoubtedly a much better team than last season in term of its all round game, but the missing piece at present is a forward who we know can bag us 20 goals a season. Gervinho ain't the answer, I believe Giroud will come good; the only question is when? In the meantime, I've always been curious to see how Walcott would do in the central striker position....

Chamakh hit the ground running and has been a flop. I think Giroud will come good too, it'll just take time. Not every player from a different league slots into the PL as easily as Podolski and Hazard has at Chelsea.

As for the GK position, this might be controversial but I'd keep Mannone there over Szcezny. He's earned the right to be there and we've done well with him so far.

Seen a pic on twitter yesterday of scez in one of those famous protective boots
So fcuk knows when he will be back

25-09-2012 08:27AM

Walcott will have to earn his place in the squad and as he thinks that place is Striker, he will have to try harder than what we've seen in the past.

Pepe LeFrits · 25-09-2012 11:07AM

In the last 33 PL games between Chelsea & Arsenal, Arsenal's record with Drogba playing is W1 D3 L7, while without him it is W13 D9 L0. -Orbinho

Glad he's in China.

Mickeroo · 25-09-2012 11:46AM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

In the last 33 PL games between Chelsea & Arsenal, Arsenal's record with Drogba playing is W1 D3 L7, while without him it is W13 D9 L0. -Orbinho

Glad he's in China.

But weren't most of those without Drogba matches from before he signed for the club and before they were genuine contenders?

Giggsy11 · 25-09-2012 11:54AM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

In the last 33 PL games between Chelsea & Arsenal, Arsenal's record with Drogba playing is W1 D3 L7, while without him it is W13 D9 L0. -Orbinho

Glad he's in China.

Without Drogba is before Roman Abramovich take over isn't it. Not surprising considering before the take over Chelsea were a mid table team (or better than midtable but not top team) and Arsenal were quality team.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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