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Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

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  • #1052
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Oh sorry mate, I was just so used to people calling me unjustified names. :)

    Oh? You mean like "sickness in our society"?

    Whoops, sorry. That was aimed at the homosexuals.


  • #1053
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Oh sorry mate, I was just so used to people calling me unjustified names. :)
    Can you point out where you have been called an unjustified name? Was it before or after you provided evidence to back up your bigoted opinion?

    MrP


  • #1054
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Actor wrote: »
    I'm against gays adopting, garriage and homosexual acts. All should be illegal AFAIC.
    Actor wrote: »
    Yes, sodomy should be illegal. The health service is bursting at the seams as it is without the taxpayer having to deal with the fall-out from bum "sex".
    Actor, you'll be going the way of paddyandy - banned - if you don't cease with that type of post.


  • #1055
    NuMarvel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I'm not saying they shouldn't have kids, there should be extra protections in place for them. It's not fair on the poor kids to go trough all the stuff they will go trough. My evidence is common sense. Don't make me browse google for stories of people being bullied for having two daddies! Do it yourself; But nooo, no one listens to me, a mere bigot!

    You want me to look for something that backs up YOUR point? No thanks, that's not how discussions work. You make the claim, you back it up.

    And if we're talking common sense, then common sense says gay couples should be allowed to marry so that being gay, and having gay parents, will be seen as a perfectly normal part of life.

    Common sense also says the only reason you'd be against that is if you don't think being gay is a perfectly normal part of life.
    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Look, i've read alot of things. I didn't believe half of it. I thought it was common sense to any reasonable person that children of same-sex marriages would be bullied. Do they grew up just as good as an average child. That's something I honestly don't know. Do they get bullied? Yes. I thought everybody knew this. I've seen alot of people associated with homosexuals get beaten up and i've stood up for a couple of kids gettin beat up in my time too!

    Remember that gay kid in American was beating up tied to a fence and left to die because he was gay!?

    Hold on, did you seriously just invoke Matthew Shepard to support your arguments against equality? Let me guess, the guys who beat him to death weren't bigots either?
    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I said a couple of times I was willing to change my views if people would be a little more polite to me and tried to explain instead or ramming it down my throat like someone put it a few posts ago!

    When you're first post spouts the cliched "behind closed doors" and you then go on to show a distinct lack of understanding of the civil partnership act, is it any wonder people get frustrated?
    Actor wrote: »
    I'm against gays adopting, garriage and homosexual acts. All should be illegal AFAIC.

    I'm not. I think the bar on same sex marriage should be dropped immediately and gay couples should have the same rights and responsibilities as any other married couple.

    As for homosexual acts, they were decriminalised nearly 20 years ago. See no reason to overturn that.
    Actor wrote: »
    Yes, sodomy should be illegal. The health service is bursting at the seams as it is without the taxpayer having to deal with the fall-out from bum "sex".

    You really are incredibly versed on the supposed consequences of anal intercourse. You must share your sources some time.
    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I don't mind discussing this and I actually want to but i'd much rather be snuggled up watching tv with my gf than everyone ganging up on me cause I have a different belief.

    How would you react if your children were bullied because their parents weren't married? Would you feel that it's your fault, or would you think that something should be done about the bullies?


  • #1056
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Actor wrote: »
    I'm against gays adopting, garriage and homosexual acts. All should be illegal AFAIC.
    And this is what happens when you live blindly by the bible and don't look at life from your own point of view and don't question it all for yourself.

    I'd love to know why you feel that way about those things, and if you feel those things are detrimental, facts would be nice instead of made up non sense notions.

    Homosexual acts? Seriously, what could two men do that a man and woman couldn't? Even so, I know you're touching on anal sex but far more straight people do that by numbers alone. And you know what, it's perfectly normal and acceptable.

    Times have changed and we think for ourselves in this millenium. The time of reading out of a 2,000 year old man made book for all the answers is gone because it doesn't make sense and it doesn't hold up in modern society.


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  • #1057
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    1ZRed wrote: »
    And this is what happens when you live blindly by the bible and don't look at life from your own point of view and don't question it all for yourself.

    I'd love to know why you feel that way about those things, and if you feel those things are detrimental, facts would be nice instead of made up non sense notions.

    Homosexual acts? Seriously, what could two men do that a man and woman couldn't? Even so, I know you're touching on anal sex but far more straight people do that by numbers alone. And you know what, it's perfectly normal and acceptable.

    Times have changed and we think for ourselves in this millenium. The time of reading out of a 2,000 year old man made book for all the answers is gone because it doesn't make sense and it doesn't hold up in modern society.

    Is Actor religious? I do know he suffers from fear and hatred of gays but won't reveal why. Or whether he shares his views with people in his particular profession... odd, that.


  • #1058
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Queers are a sickness in our Society .
    Paddy, I was going to write a short note here to thank you for, in your own unpleasant way, reminding forum members of the contemptible, primitive and disgraceful prejudice which so many people in this country must deal with every day. And then I was going to ban you. However, I see that Dades has saved me the effort - thanks Dades.


  • #1059
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    robindch wrote: »
    Paddy, I was going to write a short note here to thank you for, in your own unpleasant way, reminding forum members of the contemptible, primitive and disgraceful prejudice which so many people in this country must deal with every day. And then I was going to ban you. However, I see that Dades has saved me the effort - thanks Dades.

    Not questioning the decision to ban him but we then lose the chance of hearing his reasons for such prejudices. Then again, paddy and his ilk aren't big on revealing why their hatreds fester so :(

    I can never comprehend why people get into such a lather about perfectly natural things like love and sex :confused: I'd be truly and genuinely fascinated to find out what makes them so angry.

    Sigh.


  • #1060
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    old hippy wrote: »
    robindch wrote: »
    Paddy, I was going to write a short note here to thank you for, in your own unpleasant way, reminding forum members of the contemptible, primitive and disgraceful prejudice which so many people in this country must deal with every day. And then I was going to ban you. However, I see that Dades has saved me the effort - thanks Dades.

    Not questioning the decision to ban him but we then lose the chance of hearing his reasons for such prejudices. Then again, paddy and his ilk aren't big on revealing why their hatreds fester so :(

    I can never comprehend why people get into such a lather about perfectly natural things like love and sex :confused: I'd be truly and genuinely fascinated to find out what makes them so angry.

    Sigh.

    The cheap answer is probably repressed homosexuality. I doubt that's true, however the behaviour of some wacko US pastors recently has been surprising.

    I would imagine that for the religous types on this thread that they are the ones who really, really believe the god stuff. That means they don't hold back when it comes to securing their place in the dull party in the sky.


  • #1061
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    5uspect wrote: »
    The cheap answer is probably repressed homosexuality. I doubt that's true, however the behaviour of some wacko US pastors recently has been surprising.

    I would imagine that for the religous types on this thread that they are the ones who really, really believe the god stuff. That means they don't hold back when it comes to securing their place in the dull party in the sky.

    Funny how they seem to be the same crowd who claim Muslims are intolerant and backward...

    I just don't get the hatred. Well, I do "get" it, as it were, iyswim :D

    As for the alleged repression, they tend to seem awfully captivated by sodomy, anal sex and torn back passaged :confused::confused:


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  • #1062
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    However, I see that Dades has saved me the effort - thanks Dades.
    Actually, Zaph beat me to it as well :). A siteban no less.

    Thanks for the reported posts, folks!


  • #1063
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Dades wrote: »
    Actually, Zaph beat me to it as well :). A siteban no less.

    Wow! Will we ever see the likes of him again?


  • #1064
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,090 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    old hippy wrote: »
    Wow! Will we ever see the likes of him again?
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  • #1065
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,670 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    5uspect wrote: »
    The cheap answer is probably repressed homosexuality. I doubt that's true

    Au contraire mon ami :pac:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/201204/are-homophobic-people-really-gay-and-not-accepting-it


  • #1066
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,619 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    old hippy wrote: »
    Wow! Will we ever see the likes of him again?
    If we get past tonight, I'll be happy!


  • #1067
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Can you point out where you have been called an unjustified name? Was it before or after you provided evidence to back up your bigoted opinion?

    MrP

    Bigot - a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own.

    You're intolerant of my ideas, so you're the bigot. I'm trying to learn here!


  • #1068
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Go play with the traffic!

    I was referring to the banfodder and not you.

    While you're wrong, you're not offensive and insane enough to justify saying I'd be scared to peek inside your mind.:p


  • #1069
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    5uspect wrote: »
    The cheap answer is probably repressed homosexuality. I doubt that's true

    Au contraire mon ami :pac:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-sexual-continuum/201204/are-homophobic-people-really-gay-and-not-accepting-it

    Oh that's interesting. Always seemed too much like common sense to me for me to trust the idea.


  • #1070
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    NuMarvel wrote: »
    You want me to look for something that backs up YOUR point? No thanks, that's not how discussions work. You make the claim, you back it up.

    And if we're talking common sense, then common sense says gay couples should be allowed to marry so that being gay, and having gay parents, will be seen as a perfectly normal part of life.

    Common sense also says the only reason you'd be against that is if you don't think being gay is a perfectly normal part of life.



    Hold on, did you seriously just invoke Matthew Shepard to support your arguments against equality? Let me guess, the guys who beat him to death weren't bigots either?



    When you're first post spouts the cliched "behind closed doors" and you then go on to show a distinct lack of understanding of the civil partnership act, is it any wonder people get frustrated?



    I'm not. I think the bar on same sex marriage should be dropped immediately and gay couples should have the same rights and responsibilities as any other married couple.

    As for homosexual acts, they were decriminalised nearly 20 years ago. See no reason to overturn that.



    You really are incredibly versed on the supposed consequences of anal intercourse. You must share your sources some time.



    How would you react if your children were bullied because their parents weren't married? Would you feel that it's your fault, or would you think that something should be done about the bullies?

    Look kids get bullied over a myriad of things. Having two daddies will be the king of excuses for kids to get bullied by other kids!


  • #1071
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Dades wrote: »
    If we get past tonight, I'll be happy!

    League of badtards. :D
    Love it.


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  • #1072
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    5uspect wrote: »
    The cheap answer is probably repressed homosexuality. I doubt that's true, however the behaviour of some wacko US pastors recently has been surprising.

    I would imagine that for the religous types on this thread that they are the ones who really, really believe the god stuff. That means they don't hold back when it comes to securing their place in the dull party in the sky.

    Oh here we go again. A man is against homosexuality so he must be gay crap! :|


  • #1073
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    Gbear wrote: »
    I was referring to the banfodder and not you.

    While you're wrong, you're not offensive and insane enough to justify saying I'd be scared to peek inside your mind.:p

    Oh, i'm sorry then for saying that :)


  • #1074
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    http://boingboing.net/2012/09/15/homophobic-theory-of-dinosauri.html

    :pac:


  • #1075
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Look kids get bullied over a myriad of things. Having two daddies will be the king of excuses for kids to get bullied by other kids!
    As would having a black daddy.
    So then why don't you want to ban mixed race marriage?


  • #1076
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Bigot - a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own.

    You're intolerant of my ideas, so you're the bigot. I'm trying to learn here!

    So tell us what you've learned? And how this has effected your opinion? Because it doesn't look to me like you're here to learn, it looks like your here to express an uninformed opinion and ignore everyone else when they correct you.


  • #1077
    5uspect
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,594 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Oh here we go again. A man is against homosexuality so he must be gay crap! :|

    Where exactly did I say that now? Was it where you were called every name under the sun?


  • #1078
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    So tell us what you've learned? And how this has effected your opinion? Because it doesn't look to me like you're here to learn, it looks like your here to express an uninformed opinion and ignore everyone else when they correct you.

    I've learned one thing for sure. If you don't agree with homosexuals they call you a bigot. Did I learn anything else, unfortuneatly I can't say I did!


  • #1079
    Sponge25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Sponge25


    5uspect wrote: »
    Where exactly did I say that now? Was it where you were called every name under the sun?

    You said because a guy doesn't agree with homosexual he must be hiding something (IE. He must be gay) in so many words. You said this about another guy in this thread!


  • #1080
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I've learned one thing for sure. If you don't agree with homosexuals they call you a bigot. Did I learn anything else, unfortuneatly I can't say I did!
    Wow. I guess you're just blinded by your own prejudices then, if after everything that's been posted, you actually have the gall to say you haven't learned anything.

    By the way, out of all the people on this thread, how can you tell who's a homosexual and who's not?


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  • #1081
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I've learned one thing for sure. If you don't agree with homosexuals they call you a bigot. Did I learn anything else, unfortuneatly I can't say I did!

    No, if you discriminate against homosexuals, you are a bigot. Here endeth the lesson.


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