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Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 10:58AM

Dempsey wrote: »

i did there a few posts ago and the person accusing the spl of incompetence and me of double standards just stopped posting!

I stopped posting as I have other things to be getting on with in my life you really are a tube.

As has been said it seems to be one rule for Rangers and one for Celtic no matter if its been paid back no matter that he had left rules were broken according to the way of thinking at the moment.

And again the SPL the SFA organisations that have been incompetent for years as you yourself have stated many times are now ok are they.

And tell me just why should this have any effect on a brand new team as you say this Rangers are really you can't have it both ways

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 11:00AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

The biggest *** up in Scottish football is the monumental mess that the former Rangers football club created. I think it's hilarious but also quite sad to see people like you on the pages of a Scottish 3rd division team trying to deflect attention or point the finger of blame elsewhere at the authorities or at other clubs.

The authorities might be incompetent but the joke that is Rangers/Newco/Sevco/ rumbles on and to be fair to them what the fck are they supposed to do with that joke of a club from Govan. No matter what they do they get blamed for being biased or bigoted like that eejit Charles Green was making out a while back. You are deluding yourself with your constant waffle and attempts at distraction.

Again if the club that caused all this damage is dead then why are we being held accountable now can't have it both ways

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 11:08AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Again if the club that caused all this damage is dead then why are we being held accountable now can't have it both ways

That's the fckin point. Rangers and their fans are forever trying to tell us that it's the same club, that ye never died. If it's the same club then you must face all the charges and pay the penalties accruing to that club, including stripping of titles. McCoist has gone on record saying he wont accept stripping of titles - we know exactly who is trying to have it both ways here.

I would put it to you that if there are no titles stripped and all penalties are not meted out and dealt with, then it can't be the same club, right?

bobmalooka · 15-09-2012 11:10AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Again if the club that caused all this damage is dead then why are we being held accountable now can't have it both ways

I agree ye shouldn't be held accountable for what Rangers did and ye wont. the spl will take away titles from rangers if they are found to have broken their rules. they are allowing charles green the right to attend the hearing cos he decided to buy them titles, what do you think should happen BBE? should everybody pretend that nothing happened and leave it be?

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 11:15AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

That's the fckin point. Rangers and their fans are forever trying to tell us that it's the same club, that ye never died. If it's the same club then you must face all the charges and pay the penalties accruing to that club, including stripping of titles. McCoist has gone on record saying he wont accept stripping of titles - we know exactly who is trying to have it both ways here.

I would put it to you that if there are no titles stripped and all penalties are not meted out and dealt with, then it can't be the same club, right?

And there we have it. Of course McCoist is going to say that and of course the club wants the right to defend itself albeit not with the present crowd in charge who have to many links to an SPL club and one of the lawyers of said firm has already shown his true colours so should be barred from taking part. I have no doubt if we are found guilty we will be stripped of 5/6 titles and even though the fans say they won't accept that they will.

It really is plain to see the football authorities are regarding us as the same club or we wouldn't be going through all this

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 11:19AM

bobmalooka wrote: »

I agree ye shouldn't be held accountable for what Rangers did and ye wont. the spl will take away titles from rangers if they are found to have broken their rules. they are allowing charles green the right to attend the hearing cos he decided to buy them titles, what do you think should happen BBE? should everybody pretend that nothing happened and leave it be?

He bought the history in the same way as a company will pay for good will when buying a company we are still the same football team and for the last time just check out the relevant websites and you will see those in charge recognise that if the club is found guilty I fully expect our history to be amended to show that

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 11:22AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

And there we have it. Of course McCoist is going to say that and of course the club wants the right to defend itself albeit not with the present crowd in charge who have to many links to an SPL club and one of the lawyers of said firm has already shown his true colours so should be barred from taking part. I have no doubt if we are found guilty we will be stripped of 5/6 titles and even though the fans say they won't accept that they will.

It really is plain to see the football authorities are regarding us as the same club or we wouldn't be going through all this

That's a convoluted way of saying that you will accept stripping of titles while greetin about the authorities and alleged links to other clubs at the same time. Take your punishment like a man will ya.

I'm putting it to you that it is necessary that ye are stripped of a rake of titles, otherwise there is no way you can even pretend to yourselves that ye are the same club.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 11:28AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

That's a convoluted way of saying that you will accept stripping of titles while greetin about the authorities and alleged links to other clubs at the same time. Take your punishment like a man will ya.

I'm putting it to you that it is necessary that ye are stripped of a rake of titles, otherwise there is no way you can even pretend to yourselves that ye are the same club.

Really what piss we will accept the stripping of titles when we are found guilty or do you not think we have any right to a defense wealso want it to be unbiased so those with links to other SPL clubs cannot be involved or it becomes a kangaroo court Its not really difficult to understand

Oh and I think the most titles we can be stripped of is five not the crazy amounts I have seen suggested in other forums

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 11:28AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

That's a convoluted way of saying that you will accept stripping of titles while greetin about the authorities and alleged links to other clubs at the same time. Take your punishment like a man will ya.

I'm putting it to you that it is necessary that ye are stripped of a rake of titles, otherwise there is no way you can even pretend to yourselves that ye are the same club.

Really what piss we will accept the stripping of titles when we are found guilty or do you not think we have any right to a defense we also want it to be unbiased so those with links to other SPL clubs cannot be involved or it becomes a kangaroo court Its not really difficult to understand

Oh and I think the most titles we can be stripped of is five not the crazy amounts I have seen suggested in other forums

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 11:42AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Really what piss we will accept the stripping of titles when we are found guilty or do you not think we have any right to a defense we also want it to be unbiased so those with links to other SPL clubs cannot be involved or it becomes a kangaroo court Its not really difficult to understand

Oh and I think the most titles we can be stripped of is five not the crazy amounts I have seen suggested in other forums

Bullsht. Ye haven't learned a thing. You are already lining up excuses about the outcome - "but, but they are biased against us, boo hoo".

Ye have no-one to blame but yourselves for the mess ye are in, and ye are in no position to dictate the terms of your punishment and how many titles will be stripped from ye.

If due punishment is not served and penalties are not paid including stripping of titles, you can't pretend to be the same club.

TheBuilder · 15-09-2012 11:50AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

The biggest *** up in Scottish football is the monumental mess that the former Rangers football club created. I think it's hilarious but also quite sad to see people like you on the pages of a Scottish 3rd division team trying to deflect attention or point the finger of blame elsewhere at the authorities or at other clubs.

The authorities might be incompetent but the joke that is Rangers/Newco/Sevco/ rumbles on and to be fair to them what the fck are they supposed to do with that joke of a club from Govan. No matter what they do they get blamed for being biased or bigoted like that eejit Charles Green was making out a while back. You are deluding yourself with your constant waffle and attempts at distraction.

You can think it's hilarious if you like, but where am I pointing the finger at anyone for the mess Rangers got into? Seeing things again are we? You really should get that checked out.

I also never mentioned anything about any biggest **** up in Scottish Football, I said the SFA and SPL ****ed up big time over the summer, which is a fact. Now you're the one constantly using your made up whataboutery bull****, so don't come using the same tactics against my posts when I'm talking about the SPL/SFA being incompetent and you start with your "blah blah what about sevco/charles green".

The only waffle here is your continuous posts about us being a wee division three team blah blah ****ing blah, yet you spend the majority of your time chatting absolute bull**** in this thread about this that team that you don't care about. Take some tips from the other posters in how to hold a conversation, it's easy to debate with other members on here without you acting like a petulant child.

TheBuilder · 15-09-2012 11:52AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

That's the fckin point. Rangers and their fans are forever trying to tell us that it's the same club, that ye never died. If it's the same club then you must face all the charges and pay the penalties accruing to that club, including stripping of titles. McCoist has gone on record saying he wont accept stripping of titles - we know exactly who is trying to have it both ways here.

I would put it to you that if there are no titles stripped and all penalties are not meted out and dealt with, then it can't be the same club, right?

the realpigiron wrote: »

That's a convoluted way of saying that you will accept stripping of titles while greetin about the authorities and alleged links to other clubs at the same time. Take your punishment like a man will ya.

I'm putting it to you that it is necessary that ye are stripped of a rake of titles, otherwise there is no way you can even pretend to yourselves that ye are the same club.

I must have missed the announcement we were guilty of everything and we were definitely having titles stripped? Or are you making things up again, because I'm pretty sure there is no outcome until the 21st of November. So we won't take any punishment like a man, because we've been found guilty of nothing yet.

TheBuilder · 15-09-2012 11:55AM

the realpigiron wrote: »

Bullsht. Ye haven't learned a thing. You are already lining up excuses about the outcome - "but, but they are biased against us, boo hoo".

Ye have no-one to blame but yourselves for the mess ye are in, and ye are in no position to dictate the terms of your punishment and how many titles will be stripped from ye.

If due punishment is not served and penalties are not paid including stripping of titles, you can't pretend to be the same club.

Looks to me like you're lining up excuses just incase we're found not guilty or titles aren't stripped from us

You're bleating on about us not being the same club if "punishment isn't served and penalties aren't paid", that's a cop out from you if we do keep our titles, because you'll just revert back to your "not the same club bull****".

You're constantly going on about Rangers/McCoist/Green not having it both ways, you can't have it both ways either.

TheBuilder · 15-09-2012 11:58AM

bobmalooka wrote: »

I agree ye shouldn't be held accountable for what Rangers did and ye wont. the spl will take away titles from rangers if they are found to have broken their rules. they are allowing charles green the right to attend the hearing cos he decided to buy them titles, what do you think should happen BBE? should everybody pretend that nothing happened and leave it be?

Pigiron: Just incase you're still struggling to read, and still seeing things that aren't there, here's how to hold a debate, ask questions etc, without the nonsense you make up in your posts. There are also good examples from many other Celtic fans in this thread as well on how to converse and ask questions properly, I suggest you take a read, learn some, and then come back and try again.

TheBuilder · 15-09-2012 12:02PM

Anyway, got a game myself at 2pm, so hopefully by the time I done we'll be a couple of goals ahead in Annan, can't handle much more of this away day crap football.

I'm going 3-0 Rangers.

lubo_moravcik · 15-09-2012 12:25PM

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 12:28PM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Pigiron: Just incase you're still struggling to read, and still seeing things that aren't there, here's how to hold a debate, ask questions etc, without the nonsense you make up in your posts. There are also good examples from many other Celtic fans in this thread as well on how to converse and ask questions properly, I suggest you take a read, learn some, and then come back and try again.

Bullsht, this is typical of you're deflection. You pick a bit of a post that's not that different than what I'm saying anyway and make out that it's superior in some way thereby trying to demote what I have said. This in turn then becomes the usual bout of petty name calling etc. which deflects away from the original point. I'm not going to go answering every one of your rants and accusations of me not being able to debate while you throw around insults about being petulant etc.:rolleyes:..

The point at the beginning of this latest discussion that I am making is that if Rangers and their fans want people to accept that they are the same club, then surely part of the price to pay will be stripping of titles. Yes, we have to wait for the official outcome. But I'm putting it to you don't you think that with the disgraceful way that Rangers have operated that it is inevitable that stripping of titles is necessary. What sort of a signal does it send out to the rest of Scottish football if Rangers get off lightly here.

I don't expect any honest answers from you, and sure how da fck would you know how to answer half of the questions anyway. Don't pretend that you are anything more than a grunt Rangers fan.

We'll find out in due course what will happen to Rangers re stripping of titles etc., but no amount of trolling and deflection from you will change the fact that Rangers have acted in an absolutely disgraceful fashion. Stop greetin and deflecting from the punishments that are due to your club. If ye are the same club, ye must take the punishments (including stripping of titles), otherwise ye can't pretend to be the same club. That's the way I see it and if you don't like it - tough.

Jelle1880 · 15-09-2012 12:31PM

You seem to fail that Rangers fans know it's the same club and if there is a punishment handed out (which is in relation to the supposed crime, not just some random punishment that they make up as they go along) then so be it.

But if Celtic fans are so adamant that we're a new club, why the call for punishments ?

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 12:36PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You seem to fail that Rangers fans know it's the same club and if there is a punishment handed out (which is in relation to the supposed crime, not just some random punishment that they make up as they go along) then so be it.

But if Celtic fans are so adamant that we're a new club, why the call for punishments ?

If there are no further punishments (including stripping of titles imo), then it can't be the same club - that's the point. It's one or the other.

Jelle1880 · 15-09-2012 12:42PM

That doesn't even make sense.

So, if in some weird twist of events they find us not guilty and decide not to hand out any punishment (which won't happen), then that somehow proves it's a different club ?

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 12:47PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

That doesn't even make sense.

So, if in some weird twist of events they find us not guilty and decide not to hand out any punishment (which won't happen), then that somehow proves it's a different club ?

Well it appears inevitable that ye are going to be found guilty and punishments will accrue. My point was about McCoist and others saying that they will not accept stripping of titles. They are in no position to dictate what they will or will not accept. It would be a much more dignified response if they accepted their punishment without greetin about it before it's handed out. Dignity eh:rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 01:14PM

the realpigiron wrote: »

Well it appears inevitable that ye are going to be found guilty and punishments will accrue. My point was about McCoist and others saying that they will not accept stripping of titles. They are in no position to dictate what they will or will not accept. It would be a much more dignified response if they accepted their punishment without greetin about it before it's handed out. Dignity eh:rolleyes:

What appears to you might not be fact though and really is that the best you can do silly wee digs about dignity its certainly something your own club know little about

Jelle1880 · 15-09-2012 01:21PM

the realpigiron wrote: »

Well it appears inevitable that ye are going to be found guilty and punishments will accrue. My point was about McCoist and others saying that they will not accept stripping of titles. They are in no position to dictate what they will or will not accept. It would be a much more dignified response if they accepted their punishment without greetin about it before it's handed out. Dignity eh:rolleyes:

That would make Rangers about the only club in the world to accept a punishment without complaining.

Behave.

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 01:24PM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

So having Celtics lawyers handling the case is impartial now that is bull**** you really are pretty dumb aren't you

"you really are quite dumb aren't you" he says:rolleyes:, typical of the level of debate we can expect from most Rangers posters around here. You'll default to looking for excuses anyway, it's part of the makeup of the joke of a club you support and the horrendous mess they have created.

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 01:36PM

Anyway the wagon's are circling again. The typical cabal of Rangers fans here come on and butt in on comments that are meant for other Rangers posters, which deflects from any genuine comments that are made and the circle jerk continues.

Ye know what I think and ye don't like it. So invariably ye'll end up throwing childish insults about and blathering on about how to conduct conversations etc. while trolling and deflecting from the core comments and issues:rolleyes:.

Ye'll get what's coming to ye as a club in due course and if there's any justice it will include stripping of titles. If ye were smart you'd give up in trying to make out that ye are the same club, devolve yourselves of the irrefutable reputational damage and start with a new slate. No-one would accuse ye of that though;)

Off to watch the champions.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 02:02PM

the realpigiron wrote: »

Anyway the wagon's are circling again. The typical cabal of Rangers fans here come on and butt in on comments that are meant for other Rangers posters, which deflects from any genuine comments that are made and the circle jerk continues.

Ye know what I think and ye don't like it. So invariably ye'll end up throwing childish insults about and blathering on about how to conduct conversations etc. while trolling and deflecting from the core comments and issues:rolleyes:.

Ye'll get what's coming to ye as a club in due course and if there's any justice it will include stripping of titles. If ye were smart you'd give up in trying to make out that ye are the same club, devolve yourselves of the irrefutable reputational damage and start with a new slate. No-one would accuse ye of that though;)

Off to watch the champions.

You really do talk crap its an open forum therefore anyone can reply to any comments,now do you understand that.
If you want a private conversation well the PM function is for that hope its all clear for you now :rolleyes:

And if we are guilty I am sure there will be justice then also if we are found to be innocent I expect the same level of justice

Oh and if the shoe fits regarding the really dumb comment well there ya go no worse than the crap you spout

Jelle1880 · 15-09-2012 02:04PM

the realpigiron wrote: »

"you really are quite dumb aren't you" he says:rolleyes:, typical of the level of debate we can expect from most Rangers posters around here. You'll default to looking for excuses anyway, it's part of the makeup of the joke of a club you support and the horrendous mess they have created.

If you don't like 'our level of debate' you know where to go.

the realpigiron · 15-09-2012 02:13PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

If you don't like 'our level of debate' you know where to go.

It's div 3 level debate isn't it, appropriate really:pac:

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 15-09-2012 02:19PM

the realpigiron wrote: »

It's div 3 level debate isn't it, appropriate really:pac:

Really is that it

Joyce Country · 15-09-2012 02:23PM

Annan are 18/1 with coral bet - quite like the looks of that

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