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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    New Orleans is inviting hurricanes with it's devil jazz music and spicy creole cooking.
    And they've a Democratic mayor. 'Nuff said really, I suppose.

    Meanwhile, here's some news from over the border in Texas:

    http://www.news-journal.com/news/local/lawsuit-claims-black-sacker-ban-from-big-sandy-grocery-store/article_211e8217-acdf-5489-8915-8f6cc7900470.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Could be to do with the voodoo that they doo ;)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »

    *speechless with a hint of :eek: and a tincture of :rolleyes:*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Until now I had no idea whatsoever what a black sacker was. Actually Ted I still don't.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭IT-Guy


    robindch wrote: »

    Anyone remember Cletus the slack jawed yokel from The Simpsons? I can't help imagine this idiot's words spoken in Cletus' voice. What an a**hole!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Italian cardinal describes the church as "200 years out of date":

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19451439
    Our culture has grown old, our churches are big and empty and the church bureacracy rises up, our religious rites and the vestments we wear are pompous.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    robindch wrote: »
    Italian cardinal describes the church as "200 years out of date":

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19451439

    The above should be a topic on it own. Everyone in the church knows that major reform must happen and sooner the better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Catholic priest blames children for sexual abuse:

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/331892

    seriously...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Links234 wrote: »
    Catholic priest blames children for sexual abuse:

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/331892

    seriously...

    Damned sexy children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Damned sexy children.

    No - if you read what he says it's obviously the fault of single mothers. See, these poor kids have no daddy so they are looking for a Father-Figure...who kisses them, sleeps with them, ....um.... has anyone taken a good look at what this man got up with his father if he thinks that is normal behavior to engage in with a 'father-figure'??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Fortyniner


    What is going on? Have we not moved on at all?

    Is this what's expected from the USA - catholic mass in catholic Ireland in a state building before a game?

    http://www.thejournal.ie/notre-dame-mass-dublin-castle-581110-Sep2012/#slide-slideshow1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Fortyniner wrote: »
    Is this what's expected from the USA - catholic mass in catholic Ireland in a state building before a game?
    Yes, unfortunately. There has been an unusually large number of priests and leprechauns around Dublin this weekend.
    But if it brings in the dollars, I'll even dress up as one meself, begorrah.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Fortyniner wrote: »
    What is going on? Have we not moved on at all? Is this what's expected from the USA - catholic mass in catholic Ireland in a state building before a game?
    I would respectfully submit that we probably have. Here, roughly, was the exchange between CerebralCortex and your truly as we left the Lordy Edwina and met J Random American, a beer-drinking Notre Dame supporter in the Bull and Castle just across the road:

    CC: Hey, welcome to Ireland! Did you guys win today?
    JRA: Hey, yeah! No-ter-day-m ferever! You and we catholics, best in the world!
    CCRH: Uh, not us.
    JRA: What?
    CCRH: Well, do you see that pub across the road? Well, we were at a beerfest for skeptics and Ireland's largest forum for atheists + agnostics!
    JRA: (JRA makes overtly sexual gestures, then says: ) Suck my sperm and die!
    CCRH: Er, no interest my friend, we're not priests.
    JRA to friend: See those guys? They don't believe in god like I do.
    RH: Well, hope you make it out of bed nice'n'early'n'fresh tomorrow morning. That church there (points to Christchurch) does the best catholic services in town -- enjoy!

    Charming people :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The bizarro thing is that there's a perfectly good christian church in the grounds of Dublin Castle already... just not the 'right' type of christian :rolleyes:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Twould appear somebody was stirring the shite....
    Pakistani police have arrested an imam accused of planting burnt pages of the Koran in the bag of a Christian girl accused of blasphemy, officials say.
    The girl was detained two weeks ago near the capital Islamabad after an angry mob demanded she be punished.
    However, a witness has testified that imam Khalid Chishti put the pages in the bag himself, local media say.
    The case of the girl, named as Rimsha, who is said to be about 14, has sparked international condemnation.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19454739


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    robindch wrote: »
    I would respectfully submit that we probably have. Here, roughly, was the exchange between CerebralCortex and your truly as we left the Lordy Edwina and met J Random American, a beer-drinking Notre Dame supporter in the Bull and Castle just across the road:

    CC: Hey, welcome to Ireland! Did you guys win today?
    JRA: Hey, yeah! No-ter-day-m ferever! You and we catholics, best in the world!
    CCRH: Uh, not us.
    JRA: What?
    CCRH: Well, do you see that pub across the road? Well, we were at a beerfest for skeptics and Ireland's largest forum for atheists + agnostics!
    JRA: (JRA makes overtly sexual gestures, then says: ) Suck my sperm and die!
    CCRH: Er, no interest my friend, we're not priests.
    JRA to friend: See those guys? They don't believe in god like I do.
    RH: Well, hope you make it out of bed nice'n'early'n'fresh tomorrow morning. That church there (points to Christchurch) does the best catholic services in town -- enjoy!

    Charming people :)
    What did they say when you told them Christchurch was protestant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭sonicthebadger*




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Calling this festival "The Gathering" creeps me out. I wouldn't be surprised if a ring of black holographic monoliths showed up. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    kylith wrote: »
    What did they say when you told them Christchurch was protestant?

    3937402+_13acb23c760a88a5fd38ae02ba10bdf9.jpg

    But the gag assumes that J Random American and his buddies would actually be able to tell the difference if they went to the 'wrong' service :)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,121 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Calling this festival "The Gathering" creeps me out. I wouldn't be surprised if a ring of black holographic monoliths showed up. :pac:

    Or thousands of zombie kids.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    kylith wrote: »
    What did they say when you told them Christchurch was protestant?
    I was rather hoping they might notice themselves half way through proceedings. After all, even Popette herself didn't notice until after the half-time biscuits when we all trotted along to midnight mass perhaps ten years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    "Proper" biscuits instead of wafers? A dead giveaway.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Daily Telegraph reports: religious people not very smart:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2111174/Intelligent-people-less-likely-to-believe-in-God.html

    Interesting to see that only 3.3% of the Royal Society are religious. Like, that's almost nothing. Meanwhile, a godologist from Leeds said that pointing out the fact that "Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God' constitutes "a slight tinge of Western cultural imperialism as well as an anti-religious sentiment".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    robindch wrote: »
    Daily Telegraph reports: religious people not very smart:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2111174/Intelligent-people-less-likely-to-believe-in-God.html

    Interesting to see that only 3.3% of the Royal Society are religious. Like, that's almost nothing. Meanwhile, a codologist from Leeds said that pointing out the fact that "Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God' constitutes "a slight tinge of Western cultural imperialism as well as an anti-religious sentiment".

    FYP


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,251 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    ‘Pregnancy Begins 2 Weeks Before Conception’ Now The Law In Arizona


    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

    Republicans making the news are giving The Onion some competition

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    ‘Pregnancy Begins 2 Weeks Before Conception’ Now The Law In Arizona


    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993

    Republicans making the news are giving The Onion some competition

    Once again,

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    This is odd.....something resembling good news.....I feel weirdy....
    The Christian girl who was allegedly framed for blasphemy by her local mullah has been hailed as a "daughter of the nation" by one of Pakistan's most senior Islamic clerics, who also vowed to guarantee her safety if she is eventually released from prison.

    The heavyweight support for Rimsha Masih from the chairman of the All Pakistan Ulema Council, a grouping of Islamic clerics, is being seen as a remarkable turn of events in a country where individuals accused of insulting Islam are almost never helped by powerful public figures.

    In a fiery press conference at a central Islamabad hotel, Hafiz Mohammad Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, flanked by other senior clerics, demanded all the organs of the Pakistani state come together to investigate the circumstances surrounding the arrest last month of a girl who it is claimed has Down's syndrome.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/03/christian-girl-senior-pakistani-cleric-blasphemy

    Yiz have to click on the link to work out why a certain choice of wording was unfortunate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,026 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Nodin wrote: »
    This is odd.....something resembling good news.....I feel weirdy....

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/03/christian-girl-senior-pakistani-cleric-blasphemy

    Yiz have to click on the link to work out why a certain choice of wording was unfortunate.
    Heavyweight support?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Penn wrote: »
    Heavyweight support?

    O yeah.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Here in Ireland, some christians are upset at the ECHR's ruling on abortion. While in the UK, some christians are taking a case to the ECHR alleging systemic discrimination:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19472438
    BBC News wrote:
    Four British Christians who claim they lost their jobs as a result of discrimination against their beliefs are taking their cases to the European Court of Human Rights.

    They include an airline worker stopped from wearing a cross and a registrar who did not want to marry gay couples. All four lost separate employment tribunals relating to their beliefs.

    Secular critics have said any ruling in favour of the group could "seriously undermine" UK equality law. A ruling is not expected from the European court for several weeks.

    The cases involve British Airways check-in clerk Nadia Eweida, nurse Shirley Chaplin, relationship counsellor Gary McFarlane and registrar Lilian Ladele:
    • Ms Eweida, a Pentecostal Christian from Twickenham, south-west London, was sent home by her employer British Airways in 2006 after refusing to remove a necklace with a cross
    • Devon-based nurse Mrs Chaplin was moved to a desk job by Royal Devon and Exeter NHS Trust Hospital for similar reasons
    • Mr McFarlane, a Bristol counsellor, was sacked by Relate after saying on a training course he might have had a conscientious objection to giving sex therapy advice to gay couples
    • Miss Ladele was disciplined after she refused to conduct same-sex civil partnership ceremonies in north London
    Each individual had made a separate application to the court, but the cases are being heard together.

    Court documents explain that Ms Eweida and Mrs Chaplin believe the UK law has "failed adequately to protect their right to manifest their religion" which is contrary to Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

    This article provides a right to freedom of religion, including to worship, teaching, practice and observe elements of their faith. They also claim that previous tribunal rulings have breached Article 14 of the convention, which outlaws discrimination based on religion.

    Miss Ladele also believes her right to an "effective remedy" was infringed, and Mr McFarlane claims his right to a fair trial and right to a private life in the UK were breached.

    [...]


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