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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    biko wrote: »
    The Islamist-led government has unveiled a draft constitution which refers to women as "complementary to men".

    I can't wait to use this one on the other half next time she asks why she has to make the cup of tea and not me :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Links234 wrote: »
    I feel dreadfully sorry for this guy:


    That's heartbreaking stuff.

    His brain must just be absolutely destroyed from tying itself up in knots over that "pray the gay away" bull****.

    What would that amount of self-loathing and nonsense do to a person?

    I'd say tricking yourself into thinking that you're not gay anymore is a self-defence mechanism to stop your brain imploding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Gbear wrote: »
    That's heartbreaking stuff.

    His brain must just be absolutely destroyed from tying itself up in knots over that "pray the gay away" bull****.

    What would that amount of self-loathing and nonsense do to a person?

    I'd say tricking yourself into thinking that you're not gay anymore is a self-defence mechanism to stop your brain imploding.

    Looks like trying to pray away the ghey resulted in praying away any sense of style he may have had. That scarf with that jacket is a abomination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,179 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Looks like trying to pray away the ghey resulted in praying away any sense of style he may have had. That scarf with that jacket is a abomination.

    He's probably using different kinds of fibres too! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Roman Catholic priests are to read out a letter in each of the Church's parishes in Scotland criticising the Scottish Government for plans to introduce gay marriage.

    Last week the leader of the Church in Scotland, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, broke off discussions about the issue with the First Minister, Alex Salmond.

    The church has declared 26 August as National Marriage Sunday.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19383571

    Unlike those American nuns, Cardinal O'Brien has the real problems of society firmly in his sites.


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  • Moderators Posts: 52,129 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Malaysia charges family in exorcism death of 3-year-old
    A Malaysia court on Friday charged 7 family members, including the parents, of a nearly three-year-old girl who suffocated to death in a suspected exorcism ritual earlier this month.

    According to the court, Chua Seng Ban and his three-month-pregnant wife Lim She Lee, both 35-years-old, pleaded not guilty to charges of causing the death of Chua Wan Zuen, at their home in the northern town of Bukit Mertajam.

    The five other family members, who face a maximum two-year jail sentence and a fine if convicted, also pleaded not guilty.

    Police chief Azman Abdul Lah said police raided a house in the northern Penang state after receiving a distress call from a relative and found a group of 8 people lying on top of the girl in a bedroom.

    He reported the girl was lying face down under the human pile, which comprised her parents, grandmother, uncle, aunt, two cousins and their Indonesian maid.

    He said the room was dark and that chanting could be heard from under a blanket covering the group.

    Azman said that the girl, who was ethnic Chinese, died of suffocation.

    :(

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ****ing scumbags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    The five other family members, who face a maximum two-year jail sentence and a fine if convicted, also pleaded not guilty.

    Where the fúck is a life sentence when you need it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    An expert group is due to report to the Minister for Health next month on the implications for Government of a 2010 European Court of Human Rights ruling.
    Speaking on RTÉ's This Week, Cardinal Brady said the Catholic Church's role in opposing any attempt to introduce abortion would include a media campaign, lobbying public representatives and providing resources to priests to preach on the topic.
    He said the church believed that a referendum on abortion was possibly the only solution to the issue.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0826/abortion-laws.html
    Another one? fuck off, rat face.
    Responding to Cardinal Brady's comments on a referendum, Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte said the Government did not see any necessity for undoing what had been done to date, but did need to address the fallout from the X Case and decision of the European Court of Human Rights.
    Minister Rabbitte said he was somewhat surprised at the Cardinal's reference to lobbying.
    He said he did not have any objection the church stating its position and making it clear, but that it was a retrogressive step to go back to the Catholic Church dictating to elected representatives on how to address this issue..
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0826/abortion-laws.html

    Good man Rabbitte.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Men in dresses/frocks dictating the rights of all women in Ireland?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Creationists in Louisiana endorse the Loch Ness monster as evidence against evolution:

    http://theadvocate.com/news/opinion/3590598-123/our-views-louisianas-loch-ness

    The State Superintendent of Schools says that state-standardized tests are designed to test evolution, so it seems that as long as the tests come out ok, then the Superintendent is ok with it. And creationists can therefore say what they like to kids without fear of any interference from the people who are paid to protect them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Basically, previous referendums left us in a situation where abortion was allowable in cases where the pregnancy was a threat to the woman's life. But in the intervening years, politicians have failed to put in any legislation or procedures to allow for that.
    The European Court of Human Rights is saying that the delay is unacceptable. The politicians must now bring in some kind of abortion legislation, unless Cardinal Brady can somehow head them off by precipitating a new referendum banning all abortions......but even if he does that, can he win it?
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1216/abortion.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Seventeen civilians have been killed by Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province, reportedly for attending a party.

    The bodies of two women and 15 men were found by the side of a road in the Musa Qala district.

    They were either beheaded or had had their throats cut. Some showed signs of beatings or had gunshot wounds.

    Meanwhile, 10 Afghan army soldiers were killed in a Taliban attack in the same province.

    In eastern Afghanistan, two US soldiers were shot dead by an Afghan National Army soldier.

    The bodies of the 17 civilians were discovered on Monday morning.

    Local officials said the men had gathered to listen to music and watch the women dance when they were attacked. The Taliban disapprove of men and women mixing socially.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19388869

    Evidently the concepts of "proportionate" and "fuck off and mind your own business" have no meaning in the local dialect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Beard cuttin and wife sexin......its the latest thing....
    Sixteen members of a breakaway Amish group accused of hair-cutting attacks against members of their own faith in Ohio are set to go on trial this week in Cleveland.
    The group's leader and several family members are among those charged with hate crimes in what prosecutors say were attacks motivated by religious differences. They could face prison terms of 20 years or more if convicted.
    The community split from another Amish settlement in Ohio nearly two decades ago following a dispute over religious differences.
    Those charged include the group's leader Samuel Mullet Sr.
    Authorities claim that as the head of the splinter faith group, he allowed beatings of those who disobeyed him, had sex with married women to "cleanse them", and then, last fall, instructed his followers to cut the beards and hair of his critics, an act considered deeply offensive in Amish culture.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/26/amish-beard-cutting-trial


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It appears "other motives" may account for that Afghan massacre
    The Taliban have killed 17 civilians – reportedly by cutting their throats – in a remote and violent corner of Afghanistan's Helmand province that government officials admitted is entirely beyond their control.
    The reason for the slaughter was variously given as a fight between two Taliban commanders over women, Taliban anger over a music and dance party, or an insurgent crackdown on suspected government informers.
    The group, which included two women, were killed early on Sunday afternoon but news of their deaths only reached government-held areas on Monday.
    "This happened in a desert area, known as Roshanabad, which is not under the control of the government," said the Kajaki district governor, Mullah Sharafuddin, who said he did not know the motive behind the bloody attack. "I am the governor but I don't have full details because this land is under Taliban control."
    The Helmand police commander was told the 17 victims were targeted as government spies, said spokesman Farid Ahmad Farhang, who also acknowledged the area was in insurgent hands.
    The provincial governor's spokesman said the dead were probably caught up in a fight between two rival Taliban commanders for control of the dead women.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/27/taliban-execute-civilians-at-party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Wiggles88


    Arizona Law states "pregnancy begins two weeks before conception"

    Im not sure they understand how conception works...
    Steinberg explained the law by saying, “The law defines pregnancy in a way that bans abortion two weeks before the other seven states who have similar laws. It calculates gestational age starting with the first day of the last menstrual period rather than the date of conception.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Actually not that crazy. The traditional way to date pregnancy is from the beginning of the last menstrual cycle, such that pregnancies are on average 38 weeks from conception. But when dating the pregnancy, the additional two weeks (or whatever) are always added.

    That's nothing to do with ideology, it's for the simple fact that the start of the last menstrual cycle is easier to date than the conception.

    The article doesn't make it clear what exactly the issue is with the defintion in Arizona law. They try to make it sound like it bans abortions two weeks before a child is even conceived, but that's not really correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Scientology's child labour camp in Australia.
    Right in the middle of a quiet suburb is a place where children are separated from their parents, and forced to work full time for no pay, and live in squalid conditions.


    Shane is now 21-years-old. Until just over a year ago he had never used the internet, watched television or followed the media.

    “You're not allowed to read any books other than scientology books, you can't read newspapers, no radio, no movies, nothing,” Shane said.

    Shane says he was held captive and groomed to see all of us on the outside as pathetic, useless and stupid.

    Child beatings, abuse and indoctrination. Just a normal day in the world of religion. :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Nodin wrote: »
    Beard cuttin and wife sexin......its the latest thing....


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/26/amish-beard-cutting-trial

    There's nothing quite like being the leader of a religious cult. You just make up rules as you go along. I wonder why god always tells the leader that he'd like him to have sex with many women/ other peoples wives? :rolleyes:

    Do the amish drink? I think they sponsor an Irish stout. It's called Beamish. Be amish. :pac:

    / gets coat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Banbh


    The haircut guy is called Mullet:)
    I wonder did he use a sharp knife or one of those new-fangled scissor contraptions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭Wiggles88


    seamus wrote: »
    Actually not that crazy. The traditional way to date pregnancy is from the beginning of the last menstrual cycle, such that pregnancies are on average 38 weeks from conception. But when dating the pregnancy, the additional two weeks (or whatever) are always added.

    That's nothing to do with ideology, it's for the simple fact that the start of the last menstrual cycle is easier to date than the conception.

    The article doesn't make it clear what exactly the issue is with the defintion in Arizona law. They try to make it sound like it bans abortions two weeks before a child is even conceived, but that's not really correct.

    Ah, I stand corrected.
    The reason I thought it was interesting was it seems though they changed the legal definition of the date of conception they haven't amended the abortion laws which were created using the older legal definition hence shortening the window for abortion (although admittedly the article isnt the clearest) without ever mentioning abortion themselves which seems quite crafty.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    The BBC on the latest child "preacher":

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19377143

    Can't believe that parents allow their kids to do this kind of thing. It's obscene.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    robindch wrote: »
    The BBC on the latest child "preacher":

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19377143

    Can't believe that parents allow their kids to do this kind of thing. It's obscene.

    It's probably lucrative, however.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    The parents are just starting the kids off a bit younger than usual in the family business.
    OK, the kids probably miss out on their education, but when did education ever improve someone's faith anyway?
    Ezekiel's mother and stepfather are both pastors, and two years ago set up their own church with white-painted brick walls, red curtains, flowers, and a sound-system so loud you can feel it pulse inside your chest.
    And it was there, in the Fullness of Time Church in Capitol Heights, Maryland, that earlier this year, Ezekiel was ordained as a minister, and his brother, Hezekiah, a deacon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    "Wise Blood" comes to mind.

    Besides, when you look at the way many of these churches are organised, the word "racket" is never far away. In fairness, a lot of the bigger ones do seem to offer some serious facilities for the tithe, but then again, so does a "country club", without the claim to moral authority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


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    Prayer moved the Hurricane.

    Checkmate Atheists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Those folks in Louisiana and Mississippi mustn't be true Christians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Those folks in Louisiana and Mississippi mustn't be true Christians.

    Is it a legitimate hurricane?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Is it a legitimate hurricane?
    Well, were the parental weather systems married?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    Well, were the parental weather systems married?

    Plus, consider that New Orleans has been hit twice - same date seven years apart. That cannot be coincidence! I smell 'doings'. New Orleans is inviting hurricanes with it's devil jazz music and spicy creole cooking. The good lord did not make food for our pleasure. Food is required to keep us alive and should be used for that purpose and that purpose only.


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