Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

Tusky · 30-08-2012 02:02PM

Dickerty wrote: »

Wouldn't touch him. He didn't so much when he was with us, and has done less since he left. He's a luxury, and not a cheap one.

Do some people have selective memories or what?

Benayoun was our best attacking player for at least a season and a half. Before that he was a very effective impact player, who arguably should have been given more game time. He had the potential to frustrate, but he was also a very important player for a good chunk of his Liverpool career.

Gbear · 30-08-2012 02:04PM

Tusky wrote: »

Do some people have selective memories or what?

Benayoun was our best attacking player for at least a season and a half. Before that he was a very effective impact player, who arguably should have been given more game time. He had the potential to frustrate, but he was also an important player for us for a decent period of his Liverpool career.

He was like our Iniesta - didn't score that many or directly create goals but at crucial times he delivered that bit of quality to break a game - Fulham and Real away in particular.

Tusky · 30-08-2012 02:05PM

Helix wrote: »

Villa apparently in for spearing... Haven't seem much of him that impressed. What's the skinny on him?

Excellent workrate, attitude and stamina. He's a decent tackler and will recycle the ball but is not creative. Limited technically but would be a good buy if the price is right.

30-08-2012 02:06PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Honest as the day is long defensive midfielder. Limited technically and undersized, but makes up for a decent amount of his failings through workrate and determination.

Very uncomfortable if he's one of two midfielders in a 4 - 4 - 2, ideally would be played as the sitting player in a middle three.

I think he gets too much stick.

Decent enough player, not a world beater by any means but is happy to warm the bench and play second fiddle without complaining.

I hope he stays tbh.

acejeff · 30-08-2012 02:07PM

osnola ivax wrote: »

Tactically, it doesn't seem astute to me the way we have handled the Carroll situation. Was there another way other than alerting everyone to the fact we REALLY want him sold, putting us in the position of receiving bids that completely undervalue the player.

Pretend you don't want to sell him, play him a bit and get him in the shop window (too late now obviously). it should be obvious to others that he doesn't fit into the system and let clubs approach us based on that view of the situation. Could you command a higher fee that way.

The way it is now, I feel we will either get too low a fee, or he won't be sold, or played, and his value could decrease further.

I don't see how the club has been subjected to bids which undervalue Andy Carroll - £12-15m IMHO is probably a realistic valuation for Carroll - forget the fact that we overpaid by about 20m for him

amiable · 30-08-2012 02:08PM

Have the anfield mole or monkey sponge got much right?

Kess73 · 30-08-2012 02:09PM

Cyrus wrote: »

not important but didnt Cisse cost £8-10m alone, and Ba another 6?

Ba cost Newcastle nothing in terms of a transfer fee.

Cyrus · 30-08-2012 02:11PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Ba cost Newcastle nothing in terms of a transfer fee.

cant believe that :eek:

amiable · 30-08-2012 02:13PM

Cyrus wrote: »

cant believe that :eek:

He cost a fortune in agent fees though

30-08-2012 02:15PM

Cyrus wrote: »

cant believe that :eek:

He has dodgy knees I think.

Afaik he failed a medical somewhere else but Newcastle took him anyway, Worked out nicely.

markie29 · 30-08-2012 02:16PM

Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes
Liverpool are set to sign Samed Yesil, an 18 year old forward, from Bayer Leverkusen for a fee in the region of £1 million.

Grayditch · 30-08-2012 02:17PM

markie29 wrote: »

Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes
Liverpool are set to sign Samed Yesil, an 18 year old forward, from Bayer Leverkusen for a fee in the region of £1 million.

Kess. Dossier. Stat.

Kess73 · 30-08-2012 02:17PM

amiable wrote: »

He cost a fortune in agent fees though

And players who move for transfer fees don't?

Go online and have a look at the club published figures with regards to how much Liverpool have paid in agent fees over the last couple of years. Think only Chelsea have beaten us on that front for the 20010/11 and 2011/12 seasons.

opr · 30-08-2012 02:18PM

amiable wrote: »

Have the anfield mole or monkey sponge got much right?

The mole fella is a complete joke. I didn't think anyone was taking him seriously, he doesn't even seem to take himself seriously :pac: Someone on rawk said we would be signing an unknown striker and the mole just ran with the first name that was suggested.

Opr

Dickerty · 30-08-2012 02:19PM

Tusky wrote: »

Do some people have selective memories or what?

Benayoun was our best attacking player for at least a season and a half. Before that he was a very effective impact player, who arguably should have been given more game time. He had the potential to frustrate, but he was also a very important player for a good chunk of his Liverpool career.

Best attacking player? Ahead of Gerrard and Torres? I think not. Like Maxi, he occasionaly looked like a world beater, and scored some very important goals. But by the time he left, I don't think we were losing much. And looking at his impact at Chelsea and Arsenal, he looks like a spent force. Certainly not worth bringing him to play ahead of someone like Sterling, Shelvey, Henderson or Assaidi...

Leiva · 30-08-2012 02:19PM

@BenSmithBBC: RT @TonyBarretTimes #LFC set to sign Samed Yesil, an 18 year old forward, from Bayer Leverkusen for a fee in region of £1m

amiable · 30-08-2012 02:20PM

Kess73 wrote: »

And players who move for transfer fees don't?

Go online and have a look at the club published figures with regards to how much Liverpool have paid in agent fees over the last couple of years. Think only Chelsea have beaten us on that front for the 20010/11 and 2011/12 seasons.

Let me rephrase. He cost more than normal in agents fees as far as I know Mr Pimp:D

Kess73 · 30-08-2012 02:20PM

Grayditch wrote: »

Kess. Dossier. Stat.

Can safely say that I don't have a clue about him as I have never seen him play.

A quick check online shows he has only played in one league game for Bayer

Kess73 · 30-08-2012 02:21PM

amiable wrote: »

Let me rephrase. He cost more than normal in agents fees as far as I know Mr Pimp:D

Was it not in the region of 500k? So less than what Joe Cole cost us in agent fees.

opr · 30-08-2012 02:22PM

Scored 19 goals in 21 appearances for Germany U-17's according to Wiki.

Opr

amiable · 30-08-2012 02:22PM

opr wrote: »

The mole fella is a complete joke. I didn't think anyone was taking him seriously, he doesn't even seem to take himself seriously :pac: Someone on rawk said we would be signing an unknown striker and the mole just ran with the first name that was suggested.

Opr

And what about the other?

DenMan · 30-08-2012 02:23PM

Howdy all! Arsenal fan here.

Any word on the team news for tonight game against Hearts? Wonder will BR rest some players ahead of the Arsenal game on Sunday. Lucas would have been a cert to start against Arsenal. Very good player, big loss! You don't want to concede an early away goal or that will make things a bit nervy. KO @8.05PM.

Sappy404 · 30-08-2012 02:24PM

Yesil wasn't in the Leverkusen 1st team when they played at Anfield a few weeks ago from what I can see. Probably one for the reserves for now.

opr · 30-08-2012 02:25PM

amiable wrote: »

And what about the other?

Never heard of him. I don't follow them on twitter but people quote the mole all over the place as he can be quite funny. "Just off the mole phone folks and guess what ........." :P

Opr

Kess73 · 30-08-2012 02:26PM

DenMan wrote: »

Howdy all! Arsenal fan here.

Any word on the team news for tonight game against Hearts? Wonder will BR rest some players ahead of the Arsenal game on Sunday. Lucas would have been a cert to start against Arsenal. Very good player, big loss! You don't want to concede an early away goal or that will make things a bit nervy. KO @8.05PM.

Would expect at least 6 or 7 players to be rested ahead of the win against Arsenal.

Dickerty · 30-08-2012 02:26PM

opr wrote: »

The mole fella is a complete joke. I didn't think anyone was taking him seriously, he doesn't even seem to take himself seriously :pac: Someone on rawk said we would be signing an unknown striker and the mole just ran with the first name that was suggested.

Opr

As the Sahin thing unfolded, he was ahead most of the time. So either he has good sources, or follows someone else on Twitter that I haven't spotted...

Leiva · 30-08-2012 02:26PM

German/Turk maybe Sahin had a wisper

DenMan · 30-08-2012 02:28PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Would expect at least 6 or 7 players to be rested ahead of the win against Arsenal.

We don't have van Persie anymore to win it at the death! Should be a very good open game!

K-9 · 30-08-2012 02:28PM

I'd have thought that means Carroll is going nowhere if that comes about, one for the future though.

Dickerty · 30-08-2012 02:30PM

Sappy404 wrote: »

Yesil wasn't in the Leverkusen 1st team when they played at Anfield a few weeks ago from what I can see. Probably one for the reserves for now.

Striker for the Next Gen squad, with Morgan either out on loan or travelling with the first team...

Liverpool FC Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2012/13

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