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whelan1 · 23-08-2012 12:30PM

bob charles wrote: »

that sounds like a pub tale, could put it through combine again but it would be a pain in the arse. was the idiot not checking over the back losses in field

no one could understand why it hadnt been baled, the field owner would be a very percise man, everything done right by the book, guy that told me would know his stuff.... surely the longer its on the ground the worse it will get?

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 12:32PM

tismesoitis wrote: »

+1 i thought it would or should be standard practice to walk behind combine for 1st 10 mins or so checking under swards of straw for lost grain...not doing this is like going milking without checking if the milk pipe is in the bulk tank.

i think this was cut after the combines for charity event , the big combines where heading back north afaik... i am not a cereal person so know nothing about it

Bodacious · 23-08-2012 12:40PM

whelan1 wrote: »

have 20 cows and heifers calved in last 2 weeks.. lost 2 calves 1 was born with cleanings over face- i was away at a wedding- and the other was born early... also had a suckler cow calved yesterday- a surprise- she had calved last november and bull was out from 1st december, went to tag calf, the cows always go mental when we go to tag them and the bvd tag broke- typical- the needle part snapped when iwent to apply it:eek: had to run and get a new set of tags for the calf, luckily i always use the bvd tag first. anyways have 9 friesian heifer calves, 2 bb heifers and the rest friesian bulls

Hi Whelan ,

Could that cow be bulled before bull went out on December 1st, even of he bulled her dec 5th she shouldnt be due until mid sept?!

bbam · 23-08-2012 12:48PM

tismesoitis wrote: »

...not doing this is like going milking without checking if the milk pipe is in the bulk tank.

Not many dairy men could deny this happens..

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 01:06PM

bbam wrote: »

Not many dairy men could deny this happens..

only happens once though ... after that you recheck:)

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 01:08PM

Bodacious wrote: »

Hi Whelan ,

Could that cow be bulled before bull went out on December 1st, even of he bulled her dec 5th she shouldnt be due until mid sept?!

just went to register calf online , computer kept saying she was calving within 300 days was i sure i wanted to proceed, calf is full term, very hairy- the cow must be a bit of a slapper- yes imean the bull came away from them on 1 december

Richk2012 · 23-08-2012 01:17PM

whelan1 wrote: »

have 20 cows and heifers calved in last 2 weeks.. lost 2 calves 1 was born with cleanings over face- i was away at a wedding- and the other was born early... also had a suckler cow calved yesterday- a surprise- she had calved last november and bull was out from 1st december, went to tag calf, the cows always go mental when we go to tag them and the bvd tag broke- typical- the needle part snapped when iwent to apply it:eek: had to run and get a new set of tags for the calf, luckily i always use the bvd tag first. anyways have 9 friesian heifer calves, 2 bb heifers and the rest friesian bulls

Well done Whelan

, do you ever use sexed semen on the friesians??

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 01:30PM

Richk2012 wrote: »

Well done Whelan , do you ever use sexed semen on the friesians??

used it about 5 years ago found it a total waste between low conception rates and bull calves, so just stick to normal now

JohnBoy · 23-08-2012 04:07PM

how long will it take 12 calves to graze 3 acres of 2 month old lush grass.

tismesoitis · 23-08-2012 05:38PM

whelan1 wrote: »

only happens once though ... after that you recheck:)

when we were milking the drain from the dairy returned through the pit so WHEN we for got to put the pipe in the tank we only lost a couple of gallons before we noticed:o:o

Kovu · 23-08-2012 06:05PM

I'm back! (For a couple of weeks at least)
I've given enough blood every day to bring the dodo back to life:P

snowman707 · 23-08-2012 07:04PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I'm back! (For a couple of weeks at least)
I've given enough blood every day to bring the dodo back to life:P[/QUOTE

WB Karen Glad you're ok

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 07:35PM

tismesoitis wrote: »

when we were milking the drain from the dairy returned through the pit so WHEN we for got to put the pipe in the tank we only lost a couple of gallons before we noticed:o:o

we have that too, but before we did it did happen

reilig · 23-08-2012 08:26PM

Bit the bullet today and rented 40 acres of grass. It was that or let the cows in on the grass for the second cut, house some of the others and open this year's silage. Its good grass which hasn't been eaten since April. Ground is as dry as a bone - some comparison with what we have. Lucky to get it i suppose. Its 30 miles away but I pass it on the way to work every day!

Was talking to a guy who works for born na mona today, He recons that they pay a load of money to weather forecasters because their job is so weather dependent. Anyway, their advisors recon that all the signs are in place that we are going to have a good month of september. I hope they are right. Its nice to a glimmer of hope, it raises the spirits a little and if they are wrong, at least we will have someone to blame!!

whelan1 · 23-08-2012 08:32PM

reilig wrote: »

Bit the bullet today and rented 40 acres of grass. It was that or let the cows in on the grass for the second cut, house some of the others and open this year's silage. Its good grass which hasn't been eaten since April. Ground is as dry as a bone - some comparison with what we have. Lucky to get it i suppose. Its 30 miles away but I pass it on the way to work every day!

Was talking to a guy who works for born na mona today, He recons that they pay a load of money to weather forecasters because their job is so weather dependent. Anyway, their advisors recon that all the signs are in place that we are going to have a good month of september. I hope they are right. Its nice to a glimmer of hope, it raises the spirits a little and if they are wrong, at least we will have someone to blame!!

good luck with the land... hope the forecasters are right, will probably have to rehouse my cows tomorrow night, disaster

pakalasa · 23-08-2012 09:00PM

I went herding today to find a january born Simm heifer bulling.... at 8 months of age....:eek:.... Big panic then to seperate.

snowman707 · 23-08-2012 09:11PM

had a cow with sunstroke to day, ..

can't ever remember a case before, she's fairly off form,

any body any experience of it?

1chippy · 23-08-2012 09:14PM

pakalasa wrote: »

I went herding today to find a january born Simm heifer bulling.... at 8 months of age....:eek:.... Big panic then to seperate.

we had a heifer that got bulled at 6 months. calved down last dec with a serious pull. fine heifer calf, now. reckon another month or two and she will be a lot bigger than her mother. She isnt worth selling, as no one would be interested with her size and appearance so we said we would chance her another year.

pakalasa · 23-08-2012 09:24PM

snowman707 wrote: »

had a cow with sunstroke to day, ..

can't ever remember a case before, she's fairly off form,

any body any experience of it?

Is it photosensitization? I had a cow with it before. Usually caused by eating a plant such as ragwort. UV light then sets off a reaction.

snowman707 · 23-08-2012 09:28PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Is it photosensitization? I had a cow with it before. Usually caused by eating a plant such as ragwort. UV light then sets off a reaction.

don't know, wasn't here when the vet came, she's is on fairly clean pasture, and definitely no ragwort.

Kovu · 23-08-2012 10:06PM

snowman707 wrote: »

don't know, wasn't here when the vet came, she's is on fairly clean pasture, and definitely no ragwort.

Have you checked her gums to see the colour? Photosensitisisation usually occurs in pink skinned animals. What kind of weeds would she have access to ( ragwort/certain clovers etc)

Kovu · 23-08-2012 10:09PM

A good cortisone inj for a couple days from the vet should cure it too.

just do it · 23-08-2012 10:14PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I'm back! (For a couple of weeks at least)
I've given enough blood every day to bring the dodo back to life:P

Good to have you back, there must have been something good in that there blood;)

just do it · 23-08-2012 10:20PM

reilig wrote: »

Bit the bullet today and rented 40 acres of grass. It was that or let the cows in on the grass for the second cut, house some of the others and open this year's silage. Its good grass which hasn't been eaten since April. Ground is as dry as a bone - some comparison with what we have. Lucky to get it i suppose. Its 30 miles away but I pass it on the way to work every day!

Was talking to a guy who works for born na mona today, He recons that they pay a load of money to weather forecasters because their job is so weather dependent. Anyway, their advisors recon that all the signs are in place that we are going to have a good month of september. I hope they are right. Its nice to a glimmer of hope, it raises the spirits a little and if they are wrong, at least we will have someone to blame!!

Needs must reilig, a sensible business move. No point in crying come February when looking back you knew you could have rented it. Even if the weather turns and it's a great Autumn I don't think there will be any issue selling silage this winter. If you've enough fodder you might even pick up some extra stock now that they are affordable again;)

P.S. I hope the Bord Na Mona lad is right, for everyone's sake!!!

just do it · 23-08-2012 10:22PM

whelan1 wrote: »

good luck with the land... hope the forecasters are right, will probably have to rehouse my cows tomorrow night, disaster

I was thinking of housing my cows by night as well. They'll quickly get used to eating what they need during the 12hrs they're out and I can start giving the nuts to the calves inside. I have the grass but grazing it is the issue!

blue5000 · 23-08-2012 10:24PM

Welcome back Kovu, hope all is ok

just do it · 23-08-2012 10:25PM

pakalasa wrote: »

I went herding today to find a january born Simm heifer bulling.... at 8 months of age....:eek:.... Big panic then to seperate.

Put a reminder in the phone for 3 weeks time;) and that will tell you whether she needs a shot of estrumate or not;)

just do it · 23-08-2012 10:28PM

snowman707 wrote: »

had a cow with sunstroke to day, ..

can't ever remember a case before, she's fairly off form,

any body any experience of it?

Put her in a dark shed, even on a dull day there seems to be enough radiation to upset them. It she has it bad be prepared for the skin to peel badly. Have you had the vet to her? (edit - I see in a later post you've had the vet out. Should have read more before replying

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just do it · 23-08-2012 10:34PM

snowman707 wrote: »

don't know, wasn't here when the vet came, she's is on fairly clean pasture, and definitely no ragwort.

There are a number of different pasture weeds that can help set it off (google should help on that front!). As well as that if the liver is poorly due to fluke infestation an animal can be prone to it. Have you ever had a case of it before? I take it it's the white parts of her skin that are affected.

Bodacious · 23-08-2012 10:40PM

just do it wrote: »

There are a number of different pasture weeds that can help set it off (google should help on that front!). As well as that if the liver is poorly due to fluke infestation an animal can be prone to it. Have you ever had a case of it before? I take it it's the white parts of her skin that are affected.

saw it 2 years ago.. char stock bull.. his whole skin on back peeled off .. only would venture out to graze at dusk himself.. he killed him when he was healed

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