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Medicine course thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    What's the Christmas break like in 4th year? I think I heard there are no exams... is sitting schols in 4th year unheard of? I applied for the intercalated M.Sc for this year but was unsuccessful so I have to up my game if I want to get it next year.
    I remember looking at the ranking this year and a few SSs sat it. I pretty sure none of them came close though!

    If you get schols do you not need the 65% average mularky to get into the intercalated M.Sc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    My understanding is that their "entry requirements" are very loosely applied in actuality; I think this is the first year that the M.Sc has had enough applicants for people to be turned down. I've heard that people got it before without meeting the stated entry requirements at all. If I do well in 4th year, and maybe consider Schols, hopefully that could be enough, assuming that it's increasing in popularity every year and will have a good few applicants next year as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo


    This is at least the third year in a row where some people have been unsuccessful in applying, so it's nothing new, I wouldn't be overly disheartened. You have about a month off for Christmas in fourth year, without big Christmas exams (the break occurs mid-way during your second rotation of the year, so you have four weeks before Christmas and four weeks after Christmas). The schol exams clash with the first or second week back after Christmas, but, regardless, in the last couple of years a few SS meds have sat the exams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Kwekubo wrote: »
    This is at least the third year in a row where some people have been unsuccessful in applying, so it's nothing new, I wouldn't be overly disheartened. You have about a month off for Christmas in fourth year, without big Christmas exams (the break occurs mid-way during your second rotation of the year, so you have four weeks before Christmas and four weeks after Christmas). The schol exams clash with the first or second week back after Christmas, but, regardless, in the last couple of years a few SS meds have sat the exams.

    Ah, ok. The current M.Sc students I was speaking to were under the impression that last year, anyone who applied was successful.

    GP's going to be my second rotation - any idea if the rural placement could clash with the schol exams?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    GP's going to be my second rotation - any idea if the rural placement could clash with the schol exams?
    The placements are in weeks 3-4 and 5-6 of the rotation, but during the year they vary the order in which inner and outer placements are done, so it could be either. Be very careful who you ask for info regarding this (nudge nudge wink wink).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭dropinthocean


    Kwekubo wrote: »
    The placements are in weeks 3-4 and 5-6 of the rotation, but during the year they vary the order in which inner and outer placements are done, so it could be either. Be very careful who you ask for info regarding this (nudge nudge wink wink).


    ^ very good advice! some would say that it's better not to tell anyone that you need time off and to just take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Cooper.


    How easy is it to transfer to medicine from a different course (Science)? Missed out on my offer by a grade (I'm a non-EU applicant), and was wondering whether it's possible to change mid-course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    Cooper. wrote: »
    How easy is it to transfer to medicine from a different course (Science)? Missed out on my offer by a grade (I'm a non-EU applicant), and was wondering whether it's possible to change mid-course.
    If you don't have the points, I don't think you can, sorry.
    www.tcd.ie/Admissions/undergraduate/apply/transferred/within-trinity/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭jos360


    Could someone please put up their first term lecture timetable for first year?
    Even if someone could give me some sort of idea how busy one could expect to be? Thanks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Librium


    Cooper. wrote: »
    How easy is it to transfer to medicine from a different course (Science)? Missed out on my offer by a grade (I'm a non-EU applicant), and was wondering whether it's possible to change mid-course.

    never happens in tcd, never.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Cooper.


    Librium wrote: »
    never happens in tcd, never.

    Never happens because no one drops out of medicine and therefore there are no empty places, or because it's too difficult?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Librium


    In TCD and most Irish universities there is a policy or no internal transfers from lower points course to higher points course.
    In TCD Medicine has no feeder system from the top 5% in Physiology / neuro etc. unlike some British unis eg newcastle.
    In TCD if anyone drops out of medicine in the early weeks replacements will be recruited from the CAO system, if it's too far of a progression they won't recruit anyone.
    I'm sure one or two quit by xmas.

    If you don't beleive me ring admissions but it would be waste of time doing science in tcd with the expectation of getting into undergrad medicine, it won't happen. You should have applied to all of the irish unis tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    jos360 wrote: »
    Could someone please put up their first term lecture timetable for first year?
    Even if someone could give me some sort of idea how busy one could expect to be? Thanks

    In first year, you're looking at about 20 to 25 hours of lectures, labs, and tutorials a week. It's not a particularly heavy timetable, lots of time for coffee and faffing around campus, or study if you want to keep on top of the coursework.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Histie


    Librium wrote: »
    In TCD and most Irish universities there is a policy or no internal transfers from lower points course to higher points course.

    I know people who have transferred internally from lower- to higher-points courses during my time here, so I'm afraid that's not true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Librium


    Histie wrote: »
    I know people who have transferred internally from lower- to higher-points courses during my time here, so I'm afraid that's not true.

    Sorry. I am wrong. You could transfer from science to medicine if you had 600 points. So you could go from a lower points course to the higher points course if you actually had the points in the first place for the higher course. So if somebody was too chicken to do medicine and did science but got the courage half way through first year they MIGHT be able to swap without reapplying via CAO if they had the points.

    So if Maths had a higher points requirement than TP and you decided to move from TP to Maths because you disliked Physics you would need to have had the points int te first place to do TP but you were erroneous in filling out your CAO.

    Do you agree with this?

    My sentiment is the same, you can't swap internally if you don't have the points already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Histie


    I see what you had intended to say: that internal transfer to a higher-points course is restricted to those who had a points surplus big enough to meet the requirements for the course they want to transfer to.

    As regards Maths/TP, I think that as it would be possible to transfer from one to the other without going back to the start of JF, in addition to CAO points, they will also take into account other factors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 johnnyboy18


    Librium wrote: »
    Sorry. I am wrong. You could transfer from science to medicine if you had 600 points. So you could go from a lower points course to the higher points course if you actually had the points in the first place for the higher course. So if somebody was too chicken to do medicine and did science but got the courage half way through first year they MIGHT be able to swap without reapplying via CAO if they had the points.

    So if Maths had a higher points requirement than TP and you decided to move from TP to Maths because you disliked Physics you would need to have had the points int te first place to do TP but you were erroneous in filling out your CAO.

    Do you agree with this?

    My sentiment is the same, you can't swap internally if you don't have the points already.


    Do you think they'd be able to circumvent the hpat requirment?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Librium


    no the points is combi of hpat and lc no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 johnnyboy18


    Librium wrote: »
    no the points is combi of hpat and lc no?

    I just thought you meant if someone got 600 in leaving, didn't sit hpat, applied for science and then after a few months wish they had done med, then they'd be able to potentially transfer...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭jos360


    Do you think they'd be able to circumvent the hpat requirment?

    Ill have to agree with my good friend Librium :D, no way around it


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 134 ✭✭Librium


    i'm out of this thread too many silly questions.

    don't do science and expect to get up-graded to medicine. you don't share any lectures with med students or sit the same exams and you only have the tiniest amount of lecturer overlap, you will never be able to impress the staff or out perform the students.

    do science then grad med, or repeat and do undergrad. these are the options. peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Cooper.


    Right, thanks for the input.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 johnnyboy18


    With the student selected module or language module, if I want to do student selected do I just do nothing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    What's everyone doing about the vaccinations? Do we just have to get a blood test to show them what we are and are not immune to, take that to registration then student health will get us the vaccines we need? Or do we have to be fully immune to register? (I haven't had Hep B or C or the BCG...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭jos360


    Paralysis wrote: »
    What's everyone doing about the vaccinations? Do we just have to get a blood test to show them what we are and are not immune to, take that to registration then student health will get us the vaccines we need? Or do we have to be fully immune to register? (I haven't had Hep B or C or the BCG...)

    I'm not surprised you haven't had you Hep C vaccine yet...
    trolololol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Paralysis


    jos360 wrote: »
    I'm not surprised you haven't had you Hep C vaccine yet...
    trolololol

    Yeah... Googled that one after I wrote the post, haha my bad...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭jos360


    So I'm working in a GP surgery at the moment and just thought I'd make a quick post on getting your vaccines.
    Vaccines can work out to be very expensive if your not careful.
    First, check if your university will vaccinate you at a fee. For anyone going to RCSI, note you have to pay the vaccination fee, even if your fully vaccinated so don't go wasting money getting vaccinated from your GP.

    So know exactly what vaccines you need for your course. Then ring your GP and askwhat ones you already have! Most likely you'll have some of them already from childhood or if you ever travelled.

    Finally, make sure you get all your vacs in one go, otherwise you'll end up paying more than one consult fee every time you go back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo


    Paralysis wrote: »
    What's everyone doing about the vaccinations? Do we just have to get a blood test to show them what we are and are not immune to, take that to registration then student health will get us the vaccines we need? Or do we have to be fully immune to register? (I haven't had Hep B or C or the BCG...)
    It would be impossible to be fully immunised against Hep B between now and registration; a course of Hep B vaccines needs to be administered over the space of a few months. The blood test they are asking you for is just to make sure you do not currently have an active Hep B infection and to confirm whether you will or will not need the course of vaccines.

    jos360 wrote: »
    First, check if your university will vaccinate you at a fee.
    TCD will do this but it could well be more expensive than your own GP. I think charges are on the College Health Service website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭jos360


    Kwekubo wrote: »
    It would be impossible to be fully immunised against Hep B between now and registration; a course of Hep B vaccines needs to be administered over the space of a few months. The blood test they are asking you for is just to make sure you do not currently have an active Hep B infection and to confirm whether you will or will not need the course of vaccines.



    TCD will do this but it could well be more expensive than your own GP. I think charges are on the College Health Service website.

    Im sitting beside a price list, what vaccs you need and I'll give you the GP cost?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭Dicksboro_man


    hey guys,
    cannot wait to get started in Trinity next month as 1st year :D what date is everyone heading up at?

    Btw does anyone know what the "supplemental examination" for 1st years is about on the 27th August? :confused:


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