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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    I'd wager you could get by in second year without one. They had spares for any of the classes that needed one, and you'd just need to borrow one for the exam. That said, it's something you'll need anyway later one. (Unless everyone switches to handheld ultrasounds, if you're to believe a certain lecturer)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    blubloblu wrote: »
    I'd wager you could get by in second year without one. They had spares for any of the classes that needed one, and you'd just need to borrow one for the exam. That said, it's something you'll need anyway later one. (Unless everyone switches to handheld ultrasounds, if you're to believe a certain lecturer)
    Indeed, I haven't used mine once since I got it. If you got an entrance exhibition award you can get one from Hodges and Fidges that way. Useful way to save some money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Hi guys, our class shared the 2nd med neurophysiology course with ye this year. Does anyone from previous years have any advice with regard to books/reading materials for the module? We didn't do neuroanatomy which, while it looks like a bitch, makes reading through the neurophysiology notes that little bit harder. Any advice would be great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    What's the dealio with the medicine and surgery MCQ exams at the end of 3rd year? We have been told nothing about them, and past papers aren't online. Is there much overlap with LabMed? How does one prepare for them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Warrior011


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    What's the dealio with the medicine and surgery MCQ exams at the end of 3rd year? We have been told nothing about them, and past papers aren't online. Is there much overlap with LabMed? How does one prepare for them?

    I didn't even know there were MCQ's ... probably should pay more attention :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Jammyc wrote: »
    Hi guys, our class shared the 2nd med neurophysiology course with ye this year. Does anyone from previous years have any advice with regard to books/reading materials for the module? We didn't do neuroanatomy which, while it looks like a bitch, makes reading through the neurophysiology notes that little bit harder. Any advice would be great!

    I can't imagine trying to tackle Neurophysiology without some sort of background knowledge of the anatomy, so I would definitely recommend you try and get a basic understanding of the anatomy first. Like, not in any great detail, but it's much easier to grasp all the functions if you have an idea of the layout of the brain. There's plenty of online resources you could use. I remember I actually drew out a very basic diagram of the brain in my neurophysiology question.

    The lecture notes are a bit all over the place alright. There's a good few books which made neuro very understandable. I know a few people who swore by the "Instant Notes" book - worth a look (Heres the libo link )

    I actually found loads of really helpful websites on neuro when I was doing it (I had them all saved on my old laptop, but I can't remember them now), so definitely flesh out your notes with stuff online.

    There's also a big, massive go-to neuroscience book which a lot of people used last year, but can't remember the name of the author. There's loads of copies in the Hamilton anyway, perhaps someone else will know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    I've seen "Neuroscience for kids" recommended a couple times, haven't used it myself though. http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/introb.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Thanks for the replies! Completely forgot to check if there was an Instant Notes book, it looks really good! Thanks! Also that site seems pretty useful too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    What's the dealio with the medicine and surgery MCQ exams at the end of 3rd year? We have been told nothing about them, and past papers aren't online. Is there much overlap with LabMed? How does one prepare for them?
    If you guys have medicine and surgery MCQs at the end of 3rd year, then that's a brand new thing for your year. Until 2009, the 3rd year OSCE counted for 10% of your final medicine mark, but they did away with that rule the following year. The Ophth and ENT exams count for 10% of your final surgery mark - these are MCQs and essays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    bythewoods wrote: »
    I can't imagine trying to tackle Neurophysiology without some sort of background knowledge of the anatomy, so I would definitely recommend you try and get a basic understanding of the anatomy first. Like, not in any great detail, but it's much easier to grasp all the functions if you have an idea of the layout of the brain. There's plenty of online resources you could use. I remember I actually drew out a very basic diagram of the brain in my neurophysiology question.

    The lecture notes are a bit all over the place alright. There's a good few books which made neuro very understandable. I know a few people who swore by the "Instant Notes" book - worth a look (Heres the libo link )

    I actually found loads of really helpful websites on neuro when I was doing it (I had them all saved on my old laptop, but I can't remember them now), so definitely flesh out your notes with stuff online.

    There's also a big, massive go-to neuroscience book which a lot of people used last year, but can't remember the name of the author. There's loads of copies in the Hamilton anyway, perhaps someone else will know?
    Fitzgerald? That's the bulky go to one I know anyway...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Kwekubo wrote: »
    If you guys have medicine and surgery MCQs at the end of 3rd year, then that's a brand new thing for your year. Until 2009, the 3rd year OSCE counted for 10% of your final medicine mark, but they did away with that rule the following year. The Ophth and ENT exams count for 10% of your final surgery mark - these are MCQs and essays.

    They were given last year, as the papers are listed on the exam papers site for JS 10/11

    There's also talk from clinical skills tutors of giving us a long case on top of our end-of-year OSCE. Dunno why they'd spring that on us that so late in the year though, I thought all assessments would have to be clearly outlined in the study guide at the start of term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    Does anyone know where to find microbiology and pathology mcqs for second year? I can only find one set of micro ones...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Warrior011


    theowen wrote: »
    Does anyone know where to find microbiology and pathology mcqs for second year? I can only find one set of micro ones...

    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    Warrior011 wrote: »
    PM sent
    Share the love, Owen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Warrior011


    blubloblu wrote: »
    Share the love, Owen.

    I've already sent them to three people in your year, if you want them as well just pm me your email address :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    What's the dealio with the medicine and surgery MCQ exams at the end of 3rd year? We have been told nothing about them, and past papers aren't online. Is there much overlap with LabMed? How does one prepare for them?

    That med/surg paper is nothing to be worried about. Very basic stuff tested.
    You should get a mock paper sometime beforehand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Jessibelle


    first year exams, brain feels like a sieve, can't remember my own name.... urgh. (it's only 5 years it's only 5 years...ignores post grad exams ...it's only 5 years)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Jessibelle wrote: »
    first year exams, brain feels like a sieve, can't remember my own name.... urgh. (it's only 5 years it's only 5 years...ignores post grad exams ...it's only 5 years)

    Ah, first year. Just distant memories now.
    I recall sitting on the floor of the RDS just before biochem learning fatty acid metabolism for the very first time. I was lucky it came up.
    If its of any consolation, the clinical years fly by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Kez1


    Ah, first year. Just distant memories now.
    I recall sitting on the floor of the RDS just before biochem learning fatty acid metabolism for the very first time. I was lucky it came up.
    If its of any consolation, the clinical years fly by.


    do the years get easier?? I've found first year really hard and I'm worried it's going to keep getting worse.... Like it's not the college part that's hard it's the course content, I feel that there's just so much in a short space of time to learn... I'm worrying I might not be able to handle this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Jessibelle


    I've been told te first two years are tough just for the sheer volume of theory in them, and once you get to clinical, it's not that it's easier per se, but it feels a lot better just because you actually see the practical side to it all if that makes any sense??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Kez1


    Jessibelle wrote: »
    I've been told te first two years are tough just for the sheer volume of theory in them, and once you get to clinical, it's not that it's easier per se, but it feels a lot better just because you actually see the practical side to it all if that makes any sense??

    yeah it does, thanks.

    just worried... but I've heard the clinical years are far more interesting than the first two years... hope it's true!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Kez1 wrote: »
    do the years get easier?? I've found first year really hard and I'm worried it's going to keep getting worse.... Like it's not the college part that's hard it's the course content, I feel that there's just so much in a short space of time to learn... I'm worrying I might not be able to handle this...

    I failed everything spectacularly in first year Christmas exams, it's not the end of the world. Chin up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Post-third-years: any tips for the Pharm viva? Any particular topics tend to come up often, that you can remember?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    Post-third-years: any tips for the Pharm viva? Any particular topics tend to come up often, that you can remember?

    The Kardex's we got were the exact same as the ones we went over in the small group tutorials.
    I got TB and HIV meds. Think there was HTN as well. Have you got copies of the kardex's you covered in class?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    The Kardex's we got were the exact same as the ones we went over in the small group tutorials.
    I got TB and HIV meds. Think there was HTN as well. Have you got copies of the kardex's you covered in class?

    Oh wow, I didn't think they could be the exact same. Yeah, we have copies of all 4 tutorials. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Warrior011


    does any of the fourth years or above have any experience with honours labmed vivas? just wondering what to expect ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭caroline1111


    Anyone have any advice for 2nd year? Subjects to look out for, etc. How does it compare to 1st year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    What's the Christmas break like in 4th year? I think I heard there are no exams... is sitting schols in 4th year unheard of? I applied for the intercalated M.Sc for this year but was unsuccessful so I have to up my game if I want to get it next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Histie


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    What's the Christmas break like in 4th year? I think I heard there are no exams... is sitting schols in 4th year unheard of? I applied for the intercalated M.Sc for this year but was unsuccessful so I have to up my game if I want to get it next year.

    It is unheard of or almost unheard of; I have never heard of an SS sitting schols, but there is no theoretical restriction as any undergraduate student can sit the exams, and you would still be entitled to five years of emoluments if you succeeded.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    Histie wrote: »
    It is unheard of or almost unheard of; I have never heard of an SS sitting schols, but there is no theoretical restriction as any undergraduate student can sit the exams, and you would still be entitled to five years of emoulements if you succeeded.

    I think schols is the only context within which I've ever heard the word 'emoluments' used.


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