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London 2012 Megathread [Part 1]

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  • #6092
    westendgirlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    If Gaelic football was to theoretically become an olympics sport in 2020 would we even win? :D

    Don't be silly......China would :D


  • #6093
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Aidric wrote: »
    leahyl wrote: »
    Omg poor Annalise - gutted for her :-( still though best sailing result for Ireland for 30 years so not too bad :-)

    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

    She hardly melted, she was under huge pressure. There are many variables in sailing, it's not like a runner doing well below his personal best. She was ranked below the 3 medalists, so in fact she overperformed. She did incredibly well, if we were told we would have our best finish in sailing in 30 years before the Olympic we'd have been delighted. Im sure she did her best to win, like all our athletes, and they don't need people like you talking them down.


  • #6094
    WumBuster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭WumBuster


    Tinie wrote: »
    You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

    Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


    Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

    I agree. I think our inward looking mentality and suspicion of other countries and ''foreign games'' and so forth has cost us in so far as producing top athletes. We should be winning a good bit more, and competing in more sports. But the lack of organisational and infrastructure, or the will for it, isnt there. The fact that a lot of our best athletes are from Northern Ireland is no co-incidence either.


  • #6095
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    cgpg5 wrote: »
    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    At least they excel in a couple of sports internationally though. Rugby and sailing I can think of. Have Irish ever won the America's cup?

    If Gaelic football was to theoretically become an olympics sport in 2020 would we even win? :D
    Yeah, we'd win that until the Chinese got to grips with it!


  • #6096
    cgpg5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    westendgirlie wrote: »
    Don't be silly......China would :D

    They'd have that 7 foot something basketball fella as the target man on the edge of the square! They'd run riot :D


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  • #6097
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Tinie wrote: »
    You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

    Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


    Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

    The weather in NZ is no better or worse than it is here. Irish people don't like getting cold and wet. That's why we constantly complain about the weather.


  • #6098
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Murphy did well. I hope she doesn't beat herself up too much. Why is everyone getting snarky about medals all of a sudden? Cop on and enjoy the games.


  • #6099
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    So as long as the GAA take most of our athletes we're not going to be winning anything internationally I guess. Oh well, maybe I can get a UK passport if I stay here long enough!


  • #6100
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    flyswatter wrote: »
    Yeah, we'd win that until the Chinese got to grips with it!

    The Aussies would probably beat us anyway!


  • #6101
    donfers
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Aidric wrote: »
    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.


    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted


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  • #6102
    cgpg5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    The Aussies would probably beat us anyway!

    But seriously we actually wouldn't. Australia as you say and can you imagine the Spanish or someone getting to grips with it after 8 or so years training.


  • #6103
    Jesus Shaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Jesus Shaves


    Rihanna - make me feel like I'm the only girl in the world as the intro song for this match, bad choice by the organisers


  • #6104
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    GWAN CIAN!


  • #6105
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    leahyl wrote: »
    Oh be quiet

    Excellent counter argument.


  • #6106
    westendgirlie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Shryke wrote: »
    Murphy did well. I hope she doesn't beat herself up too much. Why is everyone getting snarky about medals all of a sudden? Cop on and enjoy the games.


    What are we gonna do with ourselves this time next Monday? :(


  • #6107
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Cian up now


  • #6108
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    All went wrong for Cian, 12 penalties


  • #6109
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    donfers wrote: »
    Aidric wrote: »
    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.


    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted
    Yeah, Roy Keane was pointing this attitude out during the Euros.


  • #6110
    Pudsy33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,904 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    donfers wrote: »
    Aidric wrote: »
    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.


    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted

    I agree we need to be more ruthless and raise expectations, but talking down the athletes after the have performed well is hardly constructive. They'll be more hurt and determined then anyone.


  • #6111
    marco_polo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Aidric wrote: »
    leahyl wrote: »
    Omg poor Annalise - gutted for her :-( still though best sailing result for Ireland for 30 years so not too bad :-)

    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

    Melted? Lol. She sailed very well in her stronger legs just couldn't build up a big enough lead to hold onto unfortunately.

    44 points was an excellant score and would have comfortably won a medal 4 years ago.


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  • #6112
    cgpg5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Equestrian is so stressful to watch. I was only a young teen in 04 but bloody hell I remember the stress of watching O'Connor at Athens


  • #6113
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    donfers wrote: »
    Aidric wrote: »
    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.


    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted

    ****ing save it for another time. She doesn't need to read your crap and neither does anyone else. Talk about it again later on after the loss, not that you will. You only want to get a cheap shot in at her while the loss is fresh. Such a cnutish attitude to take. You'd swear she sank coming out the gate.


  • #6114
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,433 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    donfers wrote: »
    Aidric wrote: »
    Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

    Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.


    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted

    Of course it's disappointing no one said it isn't but the girl did incredibly well regardless, was she a real medal hope all along?? I don't think so. And then she started doing really well and everybody expected her to get a medal and when she didn't it's typical Irish begrudgery from some people - oh she's no use, came fourth not good enough blah blah. Us suddenly turning around and saying " that's not good enough" is not going to magically make the Irish athletes win more medals FFS.


  • #6115
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,355 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Annalise in tears =(


  • #6116
    Diego Maradona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Diego Maradona


    Feel so sorry for Annalise, she's genuinely gutted :(


  • #6117
    donfers
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    another irish competitor more than likely gone, cian o connor with 12 faults

    looks like as usual it's our boxers doing the business

    i don't know i think it's better sometimes to criticise and highlight failings than to pat someone on the back and say "ah sure you did your best - unlucky"

    if we want to improve we need to be more ruthless


  • #6118
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    bad form from RTE making her do an interview in that emotional state


  • #6119
    Patser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭Patser


    Ahh jaysus, Annalise being interviewd on RTE now, still in tears. Heartbreaking!

    Well Done Annalise! We're sure you'll be back and there'll probably be loads more support for you over the next few years.


  • #6120
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    donfers wrote: »
    the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted

    Which is great, but if Annalise was given more than a few grand from a private sponsor and a Mr Tayto everyone would be complaining that an elitist sport was getting funded when there is a recession on.

    The country lets it's sportsmen and women down, not the other way around.


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  • #6121
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    donfers wrote: »
    to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

    she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted

    Exactly right and that's the point I'm getting at. She of course deserves credit for her performance but the harsh reality is she didn't perform when it really mattered.

    I'm sure she knows that as well so it's not like it's an unfounded attack.


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