10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

mikom · 23-07-2012 08:21PM

MadsL wrote: »

For all the people calling for psych tests there is probably no better judge than gun professionals at detecting the nuts.

Pity the gun store didn't have any gun professionals on that day.......... or did they...

MadsL · 23-07-2012 08:28PM

mikom wrote: »

Pity the gun store didn't have any gun professionals on that day.......... or did they...

The guns were bought on the internet I believe, however you do need to ship firearms to a FFL (ie a gunstore) for collection. Don't you think refusal of membership of a range should set a flag? I'd support some controls around that - perhaps it should trigger an evaluation before continued gun ownership is allwed.

Reindeer · 23-07-2012 08:41PM

MadsL wrote: »

The guns were bought on the internet I believe, however you do need to ship firearms to a FFL (ie a gunstore) for collection. Don't you think refusal of membership of a range should set a flag? I'd support some controls around that - perhaps it should trigger an evaluation before continued gun ownership is allwed.

Is a 'psych" test performed by a professional psychologist required in Ireland, or any other part of Europe, before you can obtain a firearm?

MadsL · 23-07-2012 08:47PM

Reindeer wrote: »

Is a 'psych" test performed by a professional psychologist required in Ireland, or any other part of Europe, before you can obtain a firearm?

Yep.

Health requirement in Czech Republic

Health clearance
It is also necessary to present the approval from the applicant's general practitioner that they are physically and mentally fit to own and carry gun. It is fully up to the person's doctor whether he insists on them to go through psychological testing. In reality, the psychological test is rarely requested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic

France and Spain have medical exams (incl psych) and Germany has a psych test for under 25s

Witcher · 23-07-2012 08:47PM

Reindeer wrote: »

Is a 'psych" test performed by a professional psychologist required in Ireland, or any other part of Europe, before you can obtain a firearm?

Not in Ireland. You have to give your GP's contact details and the names of two character referees.

I don't think it's necessary in the UK either.

Manic Moran · 23-07-2012 08:52PM

Reindeer wrote: »

...One of the main reasons I carry a firearm at work...

An excellent and informative post. Wonder how many people will read it?

Duggy747 · 23-07-2012 08:55PM

Basq wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvE4Mtrx-rM

Check out his widened-eyes expression about 22 seconds in..

Looks to me like he hasn't slept much, if at all, since the shootings.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-07-2012 08:56PM

pookiesboo wrote: »

They showed his court appearance on Sky News live from Denver, he was completely out of it, really spaced out. So creepy

It looks kind of evident that he was pumped up on narcotics during the court appearance, he couldn't even talk and just look at the state of his eyes. FFS.

One would have thought that they would let him at least come down to earth for the court appearance.

He was probably on the similar drugs when he appeared at the staged shootings.

MadsL · 23-07-2012 08:57PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It looks kind of evident that he was pumped up on narcotics during the court appearance, he couldn't even talk or keep his eyes open FFS.

One would have thought that they would let him at least come down to earth for the court appearance.

He was probably on the similar drugs when he appeared at the staged shootings.

Do go away to CT there's a good chap. Remember to take your meds too.

23-07-2012 08:59PM

Is there any word about "motive" or anything? Usually much quicker to find out than this.

knird evol · 23-07-2012 09:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there any word about "motive" or anything?

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-07-2012 09:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there any word about "motive" or anything? Usually much quicker to find out than this.

The upcoming UN treaty on small arms being signed this Friday seems like the only motive I see behind this killing.

MadsL · 23-07-2012 09:07PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The upcoming UN treaty on small arms being signed this Friday seems like the only motive I see behind this killing.

...and welcome to my ignore list.

Witcher · 23-07-2012 09:09PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The upcoming UN treaty on small arms being signed this Friday seems like the only motive I see behind this killing.

You have absolutely no clue what you're on about..get back under your rock now:pac:

Do you ever get tired of people laughing at you RTDH?

Mickeroo · 23-07-2012 10:13PM

Reindeer wrote: »

<Big ass post>

Great post and I fully agree with everything you said. I want your job by the way :P

yammycat · 23-07-2012 10:20PM

MadsL wrote: »

It was one semi-automatic AR-15, with no reports as to caliber.

ar-15 is a 5.56 mm, rifles don't some in sizes

Nodin · 23-07-2012 10:23PM

yammycat wrote: »

ar-15 is a 5.56 mm, rifles don't some in sizes

Sort of......

Due to the rifle's modular design, one upper receiver can quickly and easily be substituted for another. There are many aftermarket upper receivers that incorporate barrels of different weights, lengths and calibers. Some available calibers for the AR-15 platform are the .223 Remington/5.56x45mm, .45 ACP, 5.7x28mm, 6.5 mm Grendel, .338 Lapua,[14] 6.8 mm Remington SPC,[15], .50 Beowulf and .50 BMG.[16] It is not recommended to chamber the 5.56x45 NATO into a rifle designated 223 Remington, due to the slightly increased chamber pressure in the 5.56mm cartridges, the two calibers are similar, but not identical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15

It wasn't me! · 23-07-2012 10:23PM

yammycat wrote: »

ar-15 is a 5.56 mm, rifles don't some in sizes

There are dozens of chamberings and calibres available in AR-15 configurations. Rifles absolutely *do* come in "sizes".

MadsL · 23-07-2012 10:26PM

yammycat wrote: »

ar-15 is a 5.56 mm, rifles don't some in sizes

It is available in .22 as well as .308 and 9mm lower receivers.

http://www.impactguns.com/22-caliber-ar15-rifle.aspx

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=7778

Witcher · 23-07-2012 10:26PM

yammycat wrote: »

ar-15 is a 5.56 mm, rifles don't some in sizes

These threads always bring out the firearm masters:pac:

yammycat · 23-07-2012 10:27PM

Reindeer wrote: »

You forgot to mention Wolves in your previous post. One of the main reasons I carry a firearm at work

How many people have been killed by humans in your area and how many by wolves, and then tell me why wolves are one of the main reasons you carry a firearm, quoting wolves as a reason for carrying firearms is about as sensible as quoting lightning, if you said I carry a firearm because there are a lot of assholes out there that would be fine, but wolves ? that's lol ridiculous

God... · 23-07-2012 10:40PM

yammycat wrote: »

How many people have been killed by humans in your area and how many by wolves, and then tell me why wolves are one of the main reasons you carry a firearm, quoting wolves as a reason for carrying firearms is about as sensible as quoting lightning, if you said I carry a firearm because there are a lot of assholes out there that would be fine, but wolves ? that's lol ridiculous

Did you read the post??? Some Mongos in after hours :pac:

A Primal Nut · 23-07-2012 10:43PM

MadsL wrote: »

Do go away to CT there's a good chap. Remember to take your meds too.

I don't think its a CT to suggest he was sedated. He looks very sedated.

Bear in mind this man is very intelligent and committed a crime that required a lot of planning and technical no-how. The guy we seen in court today, would not be capable of it if he was in that state all the time.

The fact he was on suicide watch could be an explanation of why he was sedated.

Nodin · 23-07-2012 10:51PM

God... wrote: »

Did you read the post??? Some Mongos in after hours :pac:

...what do you reckon you should carry to take one of them down humanely?

Mickeroo · 23-07-2012 10:57PM

yammycat wrote: »

How many people have been killed by humans in your area and how many by wolves, and then tell me why wolves are one of the main reasons you carry a firearm, quoting wolves as a reason for carrying firearms is about as sensible as quoting lightning, if you said I carry a firearm because there are a lot of assholes out there that would be fine, but wolves ? that's lol ridiculous

He works in the wilderness of the pacific north west. He doesn't expect to meet wolves down at the supermarket. Attacks by healthy wolves on humans are extremely rare yes but I think its fair to say they would be a more formidable threat than a lone grizzly if they do choose to attack.

Tony EH · 23-07-2012 11:02PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Reminds me of the Monty Python argument. Gainsaying is the automatic contradiction of anything which is said. The post which you quote and announce you couldn't be arsed to read does not say 'no you're wrong', but instead brings up some practical questions which must be addressed in order to attain your desired endstate. Waving a magic wand and saying 'there must be changes' is a wonderful political soundbite, but lacks a little of the practical realities.

Unless you are prepared to explain how something is to be done, don't bother suggesting it at all: You have contributed nothing to the conversation.

I'm still not interested in what you have to say and your Monty Python reference is as redundant as anything else that you've written.

I have already offered some points on what can be done to tighten up the current situation, which in all honesty is quite ridiculous.

YOU, on the other hand have just offered bull****.

Your position stilll sounds like "Your daughter was shot in the back? Fuck her...I don't care, so long as I have my toys to play with"

Wompa1 · 23-07-2012 11:04PM

I'm currently living in Arizona. I've never owned a gun, never fired a gun and hope to never have to fire one BUT if I was to settle down here, I would buy one.

There's a lot of things around here that can get ya if they want. Bobcats, Snakes, Bears, Coyotes, Mountain Lions etc.

I've only been here a few months and have already seen a big oul snake. There's been a few bear attacks up North.

Everyone should read Jason Alexanders blog about it. It's great.

MadsL · 23-07-2012 11:09PM

Try not to shoot the coyotes old chap, we have learned to live with them and they do a good job of keeping down the bunnies in my backyard. However if a pack did get aggressive Kirby wants me to trap them

Wompa1 · 23-07-2012 11:13PM

MadsL wrote: »

Try not to shoot the coyotes old chap, we have learned to live with them and they do a good job of keeping down the bunnies in my backyard. However if a pack did get aggressive Kirby wants me to trap them

I'll take the Jack Rabbits over the Coyotes any day! You in Arizona too?

MadsL · 23-07-2012 11:16PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

I'll take the Jack Rabbits over the Coyotes any day! You in Arizona too?

I'm a neighbour...570 miles from Vegas that way, 123 miles that way! You'll figure it out.

10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

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