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Farming Chit Chat

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  • #4652
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    did you send off a wool sample or whats involved

    No, they punched a hole through his ear and the tagger like yoke capped the sample. Who'd be a sheeps ear :rolleyes:


  • #4653
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Jesus it's bucketing down now.


  • #4654
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    johngalway wrote: »
    Jesus it's bucketing down now.

    Yep, we had heavy rain from two until seven... its disheartening :(
    However.. looking at the 10 day forecast online and MT's forecast there could be a break for the better next week... fingers crossed


  • #4655
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    bbam wrote: »
    Yep, we had heavy rain from two until seven... its disheartening :(
    However.. looking at the 10 day forecast online and MT's forecast there could be a break for the better next week... fingers crossed

    Was walking through my sisters field to get to my pen, it's a sloping field, all I could hear was squelch squelch squelch, in July!


  • #4656
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    This might cheer people up. Forecast for next THURSDAY.


    Rtavn2161.png


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  • #4657
    5live
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    pakalasa wrote: »
    This might cheer people up. Forecast for next THURSDAY.


    Rtavn2161.png
    Jaysus, did you colour that in yourself:D


  • #4658
    td5man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭td5man


    johngalway wrote: »
    Jesus it's bucketing down now.
    Same here now


  • #4659
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    late finish tonight and the wind blowing is similar to that in November, I was rounding up a few cattle from there quarters in the fields and it was if you should be closing the fields up for the winter


  • #4660
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    5live wrote: »
    Jaysus, did you colour that in yourself:D
    :D...
    http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

    :mad:..I don't know. I'm going to have to put in the cows. Decided this morning. I thought I could keep them out on rough ground, but that's skinned now aswell. In living memory we never put cattle in during the summer.


  • #4661
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johngalway wrote: »
    No, they punched a hole through his ear and the tagger like yoke capped the sample. Who'd be a sheeps ear :rolleyes:

    had to do my bull this year but it only required a hair sample


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  • #4662
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    had to do my bull this year but it only required a hair sample

    I don't know much about the DNA process but the reason I got my fella done is there's a Connemara/Mayo blackface sheep group starting up to try and preserve the breed here.


  • #4663
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    pakalasa wrote: »
    :D...
    http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/avnpanel1.html

    :mad:..I don't know. I'm going to have to put in the cows. Decided this morning. I thought I could keep them out on rough ground, but that's skinned now aswell. In living memory we never put cattle in during the summer.

    new moon tomorrow so hopefully that will bring a change, i think the grass has started growing at least in the last few days, i notice a difference ina few fields anyway


  • #4664
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    just found the "switch to old look" button
    dont like this new look boards somehow


  • #4665
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    got weighing results back today. first time getting weanlings weighed and scored.

    fl22 bull from bbxlm heifer 408kg adg 1.23 18 sept
    REQ bull from BBxFR cow 406kg adg 1.34 14 oct
    fl22 bull from Fr cow 414kg adg 1.37 15 oct
    fl22 bull from HExAA cow 413kg adg 1.38 17 oct

    REQ heifer from BBxFr cow 375kg adg 1.13 17 sept
    fl22 heifer from BBxfr cow 277kg adg 1.32 14 feb

    and my little parthenaise 233kg adg 0.93 30 oct :o

    they havent got meal yet (I've never had a batch that is so reluctant to eat meal before) and grassland management was average at best


  • #4666
    Tipp Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    Am i reading this wrong or is your largest daily gain from a Limo out of a hereford/angus cow?

    Always thought that combination had potential


  • #4667
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,965 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    got weighing results back today. first time getting weanlings weighed and scored.

    fl22 bull from bbxlm heifer 408kg adg 1.23 18 sept
    REQ bull from BBxFR cow 406kg adg 1.34 14 oct
    fl22 bull from Fr cow 414kg adg 1.37 15 oct
    fl22 bull from HExAA cow 413kg adg 1.38 17 oct

    REQ heifer from BBxFr cow 375kg adg 1.13 17 sept
    fl22 heifer from BBxfr cow 277kg adg 1.32 14 feb

    and my little parthenaise 233kg adg 0.93 30 oct :o

    they havent got meal yet (I've never had a batch that is so reluctant to eat meal before) and grassland management was average at best

    Well done there bogman you must be doing most things right, twoud be interesting to weigh the cows and see what % of the cows weight the weanlings are. Are the cows big?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #4668
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    big but not not huge. they have width but not higth (thats blues for ya)

    the smallest cow was the HE heifer but she gave the best daily gain. supprise supprise the traditional breed being the most efficent.

    the little feb born heifer is the most impressive though. she has great shape too. theat cow always produces the goods and has a calving interval of under 360 days


  • #4669
    whelan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Tipp Man wrote: »
    Am i reading this wrong or is your largest daily gain from a Limo out of a hereford/angus cow?

    Always thought that combination had potential
    when we had a bull in tully test station- angus- he out performed all breeds for daily live weight gain over the period


  • #4670
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Tipp Man wrote: »
    Am i reading this wrong or is your largest daily gain from a Limo out of a hereford/angus cow?

    Always thought that combination had potential

    no you read that right. and the cow is only a heifer. we'll see what she does next year. I put a parthenaise on her this time round


  • #4671
    Tipp Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    Not surprised by it at all

    Love Limo's and out of a hereford/angus i think you'd have a great animal that would finish well - ideal for irish grass finishing i'd say


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  • #4672
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    We had sun there for about 15 minutes. But then normal service was resumed and it belted rain for a half hour.


  • #4673
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Tipp Man wrote: »
    Am i reading this wrong or is your largest daily gain from a Limo out of a hereford/angus cow?

    Always thought that combination had potential
    Having never finished cattle I'm curious. What's the target market? It's neither traditional nor grade as well as a continental. During a 100 day intensive finishing period would the continental not pass it out?


  • #4674
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    got weighing results back today. first time getting weanlings weighed and scored.

    fl22 bull from bbxlm heifer 408kg adg 1.23 18 sept
    REQ bull from BBxFR cow 406kg adg 1.34 14 oct
    fl22 bull from Fr cow 414kg adg 1.37 15 oct
    fl22 bull from HExAA cow 413kg adg 1.38 17 oct

    REQ heifer from BBxFr cow 375kg adg 1.13 17 sept
    fl22 heifer from BBxfr cow 277kg adg 1.32 14 feb

    and my little parthenaise 233kg adg 0.93 30 oct :o

    they havent got meal yet (I've never had a batch that is so reluctant to eat meal before) and grassland management was average at best
    Great weight gains there bogman. Looks like the milky cows are doing the business.


  • #4675
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Went to bed Sunday night thinking I was getting up Monday morning to move the cattle to a boggy field with plenty grass. Lashed all night so housed then instead. Not too bothered as I've plenty silage left from last year. (Yet to save this year but planned one heavy crop within the next 2/3 weeks.

    But here's an annoying thing. A neighbour is badly stuck so I've told him take as much as he needs (I'm charging him cost price, - what goes around comes around). I asked him to use one particular batch of bales that are fine but not as good quality as my second batch. What does my boyo do? Took one of the batch I asked him and has since helped himself from the other batch :confused:.


  • #4676
    Tipp Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    just do it wrote: »
    Having never finished cattle I'm curious. What's the target market? It's neither traditional nor grade as well as a continental. During a 100 day intensive finishing period would the continental not pass it out?

    My point is to eliminate the 100 day intensive finishing period - grass all the way with no meal (or as little as possible)

    Our biggest market for beef is the UK - where ironically the "traditional" breeds hail from

    Markets like germany also prefer traditional beef over the leaner continental carcasses - although we have not penetrated (or really tried) this market

    Both Angus and Hereford are offering generous carcass bonuses over other breeds - this must be for a reason


  • #4677
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    just do it wrote: »
    Great weight gains there bogman. Looks like the milky cows are doing the business.

    are they though? Leg wax, Tismesoitis or anybody else what would your ADG be like? I'd like to know how far off the mark I am


    We finish all our stock off grass or sell as heavy stores. the ease of fleshing from the hereford is welcome though the reson that we have her at all was the neighbours bull broke in and served her mother. when she was around the place and we're trying to build numbers we bulled the hereford then


  • #4678
    Tipp Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭Tipp Man


    I don't think you can take ADWG and say the lower farmer is not doing as well

    The associated costs with the daily gain are probably the most important thing imo

    I'm not a suckler farmer but if you have those gains and very little meal used that seems pretty good to me.


  • #4679
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    I would agree with you but it still would be usefull to have a benchmark to work against. I wouldnt expect those calves to be better then the top lads. they had very little minding, were outwintered and had no meal and were squeezed a month ago but it would be interesting to compare


  • #4680
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    I wouldn't get hung up on ADWG either. It's all about profit, at the end of the day. If you talking about wintering cattle then gains will be lower than say from summer alone. Charolais breeding in ther somewhere will lift gains big time but price/kg may not be as good as say the shapier weanlings.


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  • #4681
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    ah yeah I agree with you there aswell. But when I have the figures I'd like to compare and contrast


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