RTE1: Creedon's Cities - except Waterford!

Neeson wrote: »

Well if you're to take it split down the middle you could say Roscommon, Leitrim, Donegal, Longford.

A lot don't even know Longford is a county!

And let's not forget Galway, Mayo and Limerick so.

membersonly wrote: »

I wouldn't really consider Waterford to be a city to be honest, I like to think of it as a small town and I like it that way.

Ergo you're in the minority.

wow ye are very bitter about this, who cares really just dont watch the show if your that cut up about it

7upfree wrote: »

Actually, he is. Thankfully.

How do you know? Have you done a survey?

Neeson wrote: »

Can't wait to see what Galway has to offer now!

Planning objectors? Seriously though, this villagist cronyism is a good argument for the abolition of the licence fee and the privatisation of RTE.

Regards...jmcc

fricatus wrote: »

Bloody right it won't. I think it's a cop-out.

The "four largest cities" thing has been covered already in this thread, and bans have been handed out, so I'm not going to cover old ground.

However neither of those programs was about Waterford city. One was a cookery programme which happened to feature a chef from Dungarvan, and the other was a programme about the rescue services (brilliant programme by the way!).

But are we to understand now that there's some sort of quota system in place for making programmes about a place? How many is Cork limited to? I seem to remember a cookery programme based around the English Market, so have they used one up? How about Dublin? They've a whole series called "Capital D", so how did they have their programme made?

And as for Galway, sure they had to rename TnaG to TG4 because everyone thought it stood for Teilifís na Gaillimhe! There seems to be stuff on TV about Galway, or based in Galway every other day! Limerick is always the focus of media attention, but none of it is good, so we can't begrudge them their programme!

That argument is nonsense though: "we left ye out because we already did programs kind of about ye already this decade, now fcuk off and stop bugging us" is what it amounts to.

I agree, under the Impartiality rule, RTE should have made the series with all five Cities featured - or not made the series at all.

They need to explain adequately why they discriminated against the 5th City in the Republic?

They do this with St. Patrick Day parade's also,

The other 4 cities are shown in sequence, then they take a brake and show every other town and village before we get a look in:mad:

On a similar vein I noticed Mothercare have a free premier screening for their cardholders to see a children's film in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway.

Waterford is excluded :rolleyes:

Neeson wrote: »

Think that finished years ago.

It's still up on their website. It might or might not have finished its run, but it doesn't change my point. Anyway, RTE's programming is so infused with Dublin people and locations that it's hard to draw the line and say "this programme is about Dublin and that one isn't". What about Prime Time when they look at the economy? It's all pictures of the Docklands and people walking along Grafton St, and interviews with the manager of Arnott's or Dundrum.

Neeson wrote: »

And that's the capital city, substantially larger than the next largest city and would take more than even one programme by Creedon to get through.

The whole point of the series was not to "get through" anywhere in particular. It was to get a flavour of each place and see how each one is distinct from the others. As it dealt with the cities as a grouped unit, it's all the more shameful that the oldest one of them all was left out...

...And since Waterford has been around since 914 and seen the marriage of Strongbow and Aoife, been the main port in Ireland for wine importation, been visited by countless kings, built many ships, crafted many top sporting trophies (including the Cricket World Cup), been the scene for the invention of the cream cracker and the rasher, gave birth to the showbands... will I go on? ...it would take far more than one programme with John Creedon to get through too!

deisemum wrote: »

On a similar vein I noticed Mothercare have a free premier screening for their cardholders to see a children's film in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway.

Waterford is excluded :rolleyes:

Yet again, no surprise... so what's their excuse I wonder? When people say this isn't important, this sort of thing is why I disagree. OK, so mothers in Waterford don't get a freebie that's available elsewhere in the country - big deal! Get over it, you might say. But it's the cumulative effect of always being on the hind tit that causes us real problems.

Neeson wrote: »

Well I suppose it is based in Dublin.

Well that's not good enough. The whole country pays for RTE, not just Dublin.

Neeson wrote: »

Rte would find it easier to head over to grafton street than go to record people walking along some street in Waterford. Grafton street is synonymous with shopping anyway and recognisable by most citizens.

This may be true, but the reason everyone in Ireland recognises Grafton St is because it's on RTÉ TV all the time. I would say that if you showed most people a picture of John Roberts Square in Waterford, they wouldn't recognise it. Even if you made it really easy and showed the whole city from the other side of the river, the recognition factor still wouldn't be any great shakes. And why? Because you never see it on RTE!

And this is where it stops being just a Waterford thing. I would have great difficulty picking Dundalk or Sligo out of a lineup, I freely admit. This raises the issue of whether RTE is failing in its duty to licence payers outside of Dublin to reflect and comment on their lives too. I certainly think it is. What are the big issues in Limerick, other than the gangs? I have no idea! How about in Athlone? Might as well be Mars!

One day I heard Marian Finucane on the radio, talking to someone about something that happened in Waterford, and she brushed over it, saying "oh right, well I don't know Waterford" and went back to talking about the Southside and whatnot. Someone who we pay six figures to, for as many hours of radio a week hasn't got the curiosity or the desire to visit the country's oldest city every now and again and get to know it? I really despair sometimes...

in 1911 galway "cities" population was 13000. waterfords population was 28000. galway cities population now is about 80000. waterfords is fractionally over 50000. we have always been marginalised. we should do what galway does and throw on festivals all year round, pop up smaller festivals that cost not so much to organise but would have alot of enthusiastic specialist interests which would bring alot of different types of people to the city and help spread the word about the place. of course what kills us the most is not having a university. galway has a university and an it as does limerick. what did we get during the boom boom years, 1 outer ring road, a motorway and a bypass bridge to cork, classic.

Baby4 wrote: »

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and that proves it. the perception is there are only 4 real cities followed by waterford and kilkenny. kilkenny is a nice town of about 16000 people. they (national media, politicians, powers that be) all perceive waterford as a big town with no university.