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Neighbours have deserted dog for a month...

  • 25-06-2012 02:43PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭


    I feel like a magnet for mistreated dogs at this stage :)

    My girlfriend and I live on the top (4th) floor of our apartment building.
    The past week or so, I've been woken at 7am every morning by the dog next door going mad barking. Finally had enough yesterday morning, and went to have a word with the neighbours, but there was no reply.

    We then looked over the partition between our balconies and seen this...

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    We would estimate the dog has been there for at least a week. He is left exposed on the balcony to whatever weather we have - roasting hot or cold and wet. He is surrounded by his own waste, and his water looks to be old and yellow. He is pitifully happy when we reach across just to stroke him or let him lick our hand.

    I've gone to the neighbours repeatedly, but no reply there. However, someone knocked on our door this morning asking why I was taking photos of the balcony. I informed them that not only is the dog waking us up at 7am every morning, his conditions are simply not good enough.

    This woman informed me she is a friend of the apartment owner, and is looking after the dog while the family are away in the Phillippines... FOR THE NEXT MONTH. I told her that the dog's conditions are not good enough - his is being neglected, and it has to change. I said we would take him in at least temporarily.

    She said she would clean up around the dog and give him a shower this evening, and is awaiting a reply from them regarding our offer.

    This is partially a rant, and also I want to ask people on here what would you do in this situation? And what can we do?

    I'm honestly in shock that a family would leave their dog in this tiny fenced off area, four stories up in the air, no exercise, wallowing in his own filth, lonely, no exercise.... it's ****ing pathetic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I feel like a magnet for mistreated dogs at this stage :)

    My girlfriend and I live on the top (4th) floor of our apartment building.
    The past week or so, I've been woken at 7am every morning by the dog next door going mad barking. Finally had enough yesterday morning, and went to have a word with the neighbours, but there was no reply.

    We then looked over the partition between our balconies and seen this...

    210293.JPG


    We would estimate the dog has been there for at least a week. He is left exposed on the balcony to whatever weather we have - roasting hot or cold and wet. He is surrounded by his own waste, and his water looks to be old and yellow. He is pitifully happy when we reach across just to stroke him or let him lick our hand.

    I've gone to the neighbours repeatedly, but no reply there. However, someone knocked on our door this morning asking why I was taking photos of the balcony. I informed them that not only is the dog waking us up at 7am every morning, his conditions are simply not good enough.

    This woman informed me she is a friend of the apartment owner, and is looking after the dog while the family are away in the Phillippines... FOR THE NEXT MONTH. I told her that the dog's conditions are not good enough - his is being neglected, and it has to change. I said we would take him in at least temporarily.

    She said she would clean up around the dog and give him a shower this evening, and is awaiting a reply from them regarding our offer.

    This is partially a rant, and also I want to ask people on here what would you do in this situation? And what can we do?

    I'm honestly in shock that a family would leave their dog in this tiny fenced off area, four stories up in the air, no exercise, wallowing in his own filth, lonely, no exercise.... it's ****ing pathetic.


    ****** As you say; and thank God you are there and care as you do.
    Poor wee pooch.

    Time for the SPCA methinks. With your photos. Trouble is that by then she might have cleaned up.
    Had she fed it even?

    What would we do? The same as we did with the collie when we found her tied 24/7 to a 56 lb weight.. We took her over and klater we kept her when we moved, with the ll';s permission ( his dog) and if he had refused permission? I had a local pet rescue support to take her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Christ almighty those conditions are shocking, ISPCA? Maybe the local Gardai, clearly this dog is in danger, 4 stories up, no shelter, living in his own filth. Something has to be done, regardless of whether the woman cleans up the area and showers him, thats only a small part of the problem "solved", I am furious:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Graces7 wrote: »
    ****** As you say; and thank God you are there and care as you do.
    Poor wee pooch.

    Time for the SPCA methinks. With your photos.

    Had she fed it even?

    Yes, apparently the friend comes in daily to feed it, but that's all she's done for it thus far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    are pets allowed in the apartment complex ?

    check with management agent ! ...contact the SPCA soon - the other person might be in charge of taking care of the dog but obviously is negligent in their job as friend to do so.... and has no care or knowledge of taking care of a dog (dog needs to be walked/exercised as well as loved and acknowledged)

    Report it asap. (Please)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Yes, apparently the friend comes in daily to feed it, but that's all she's done for it thus far.

    CAll the Garda and the SPCA. not good enough. These people should not be allowed to own a dog. I've deleted most of what i have just written to avoid a ban.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    I am enraged that people would leave a dog in such squalor.
    Op fairplay to you highlighting this abuse but you need to call the SPCA pronto,the friends quick fix approach will not suffice here,the family obviously couldn't give a toss about the dog and the little fella deserves a new home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    they can afford a holiday for a month - but cant afford kennels or a dog minder...terrible behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Yes, apparently the friend comes in daily to feed it, but that's all she's done for it thus far.

    Where abouts are you in the country OP, any SPCA's near you etc. While they can't take the dog themselves, they can do it of the gardai are present and witness the animals conditions, if the animals life is in danger then they can take the animal and (hopefully)prosecute the owners, I use that term in place of another more colourful word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Ah god thats awful - the state of the place!! :( We had a similar situation a few years ago.. they went away next door and left the dog chained up. He was pacing around 24x7 with the chain dragging across the decking barking and crying. My problem was magically resolved after posting here looking for advice ;) The people who were minding him ie checking him once a day suddenly took him down to their house full time instead. I would have contacted the DSPCA as he was going out of his mind - and so was everyone else. I would report it tbh - they would hopefully come and have a chat to the woman who's meant to be minding him and give her a scare?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    OMG Call the ISPCA now, please! This is terrible - they will remove this poor dog. Shocking - this WILL be taken seriously by the ISPCA and they will have to remove the dog. Please ring them - and thanks for trying to help this dog.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Christ almighty those conditions are shocking, ISPCA? Maybe the local Gardai, clearly this dog is in danger, 4 stories up, no shelter, living in his own filth. Something has to be done, regardless of whether the woman cleans up the area and showers him, thats only a small part of the problem "solved", I am furious:mad:

    Why I asked; the spca are apprently limited. If the dog has food, water and shelter and is not being badly abused, eg beaten? it is of course totally wrong. We have beaten our heads against that brick wall too many times.

    I am as angry as the rest of people here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    Op get the Gardai involved,most likely those Philipino's are not naturalised citizens and a police intervention will scare them into acting appropriately and changing their attitude to a dogs welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Sappa wrote: »
    Op get the Gardai involved,most likely those Philipino's are not naturalised citizens and a police intervention will scare them into acting appropriately and changing their attitude to a dogs welfare.

    Not Philipinos; they have gone on holiday to the Philipines...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    Sappa wrote: »
    Op get the Gardai involved,most likely those Philipino's are not naturalised citizens and a police intervention will scare them into acting appropriately and changing their attitude to a dogs welfare.

    The OP never said they were from the Philippines just that they were on holidays there. Shouldn't make a difference either way

    I would get on the the SPCA as it looks like this dog doesn't have adequate shelter or food. It might scare the woman looking after him and the owners, not sure if they could take the dog without the owners there though? :confused:

    How anyone could put another living creature through this is beyond me. There is a chance that MAYBE the owners think this woman is looking after dog in her/ their apartment, maybe they aren't aware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Why I asked; the spca are apprently limited. If the dog has food, water and shelter and is not being badly abused, eg beaten? it is of course totally wrong. We have beaten our heads against that brick wall too many times.

    I am as angry as the rest of people here.

    I know they are limited in what they can do but the dog is living 4 stories up on a balcony, OP also said that the dog had no shelter, therefore the dog is in danger at the very least they can monitor the situation which will more than likely make the minder buck up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 SpyderCats


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    they can afford a holiday for a month - but cant afford kennels or a dog minder...terrible behaviour.

    It is possible that the family thought that they had left their dog with a responsible dog minder. OP have you ever had an issue with the dog before?

    I really don't know how this woman can sleep at night :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Christ almighty those conditions are shocking, ISPCA? Maybe the local Gardai, clearly this dog is in danger, 4 stories up, no shelter, living in his own filth. Something has to be done, regardless of whether the woman cleans up the area and showers him, thats only a small part of the problem "solved", I am furious:mad:

    I know. Even though she's not the owner, I don't understand how she didn't do something already. I think she's just talking about being proactive now because she's been 'caught'.
    PCPhoto wrote: »
    are pets allowed in the apartment complex ?

    check with management agent ! ...contact the SPCA soon - the other person might be in charge of taking care of the dog but obviously is negligent in their job as friend to do so.... and has no care or knowledge of taking care of a dog (dog needs to be walked/exercised as well as loved and acknowledged)

    Report it asap. (Please)

    Reporting to the apartment management is not an option for 2 reasons:

    1) They're not good at their job
    2) We have a dog and a cat; ergo, if the pets ban rule is enforced, any good pet-owners (including us) have to get rid of our pets.
    I am pie wrote: »
    CAll the Garda and the SPCA. not good enough. These people should not be allowed to own a dog. I've deleted most of what i have just written to avoid a ban.

    I'm starting to feel I'll have to. I'm giving the 'friend' a chance to sort this out, but I don't feel hopeful.
    Sappa wrote: »
    I am enraged that people would leave a dog in such squalor.
    Op fairplay to you highlighting this abuse but you need to call the SPCA pronto,the friends quick fix approach will not suffice here,the family obviously couldn't give a toss about the dog and the little fella deserves a new home.

    The scary thing is, I don't think they even have him long. And he's only a pup, less than a year old.
    PCPhoto wrote: »
    they can afford a holiday for a month - but cant afford kennels or a dog minder...terrible behaviour.

    That was my first thought. Who the hell pisses off for at least a month and thinks their dog will be ok with just food and a pen measuring 5.5ft x 4ft? No walks, no shelter, no company....
    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    Where abouts are you in the country OP, any SPCA's near you etc. While they can't take the dog themselves, they can do it of the gardai are present and witness the animals conditions, if the animals life is in danger then they can take the animal and (hopefully)prosecute the owners, I use that term in place of another more colourful word.

    We're in Dublin, so we should be ok for options if it comes to that.
    tk123 wrote: »
    Ah god thats awful - the state of the place!! :( We had a similar situation a few years ago.. they went away next door and left the dog chained up. He was pacing around 24x7 with the chain dragging across the decking barking and crying. My problem was magically resolved after posting here looking for advice ;) The people who were minding him ie checking him once a day suddenly took him down to their house full time instead. I would have contacted the DSPCA as he was going out of his mind - and so was everyone else. I would report it tbh - they would hopefully come and have a chat to the woman who's meant to be minding him and give her a scare?

    It's great to see the outpouring of support on here; at least I know we're not overreacting.

    Graces7 wrote: »
    Not Philipinos; they have gone on holiday to the Philipines...

    Should have clarified, they are Filipino. Just to clear it up, their race / ethnicity is not an issue. I worked in the Philippines for two months last year, and just like here, they have good people and bad people.
    sambuka41 wrote: »
    The OP never said they were from the Philippines just that they were on holidays there. Shouldn't make a difference either way

    I would get on the the SPCA as it looks like this dog doesn't have adequate shelter or food. It might scare the woman looking after him and the owners, not sure if they could take the dog without the owners there though? :confused:

    How anyone could put another living creature through this is beyond me. There is a chance that MAYBE the owners think this woman is looking after dog in her/ their apartment, maybe they aren't aware.

    I don't know, but chances are the owners have left this 'set-up' for the friend. It's their apartment and balcony after all.
    SpyderCats wrote: »
    It is possible that the family thought that they had left their dog with a responsible dog minder. OP have you ever had an issue with the dog before?

    I really don't know how this woman can sleep at night :mad:

    I've not really noticed the dog a whole lot before this tbh.
    And I don't know how any of them sleep at night. Poor little fella. I can't actually describe how furious I am. My girlfriend just gave him a Bonio to chew on and he's so over the moon with it, and whenever we pop over to keep him company. It's pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭daltonmd


    God, that's awful - I had a similiar situation with the next door neighbours who went away for a weekend, it was roasting and the dog was whining - had the neighbours number as I hadn't seen them and they said "Ah we're away for a few days, we thought we left him enough water and food"!!

    Young lad hopped over the wall with our garden hose, the dog drank so much he vomitted. Shocking behaviour and I reported them. They stopped talking to me.

    Not that I was bothered - scum (sorry but that's how I think of people who treat animals this way).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I'm attaching hi-res pics of where he's sleeping & living, they're huge but it'll give you an idea if you're interested. Please excuse the crappy photography, it's difficult aiming a camera onto the balcony this high up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    That is disgusting to see,please call the Gardai on these inconsiderate people.
    That dog deserves far far better than that,all the ****e we complain about on shows like Joe Duffy but they would never highlight cases like this instead.
    Op you've done great work bringing this to attention now it's time to let these people answer to the law and enforce the rights of an animal as unfortunately it's up to you to be the voice of that poor little pup.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    I'm attaching hi-res pics of where he's sleeping & living, they're huge but it'll give you an idea if you're interested. Please excuse the crappy photography, it's difficult aiming a camera onto the balcony this high up :)

    Thats horrendous conditions :( poor little guy, he can barely get around there. You are definitely not over reacting to this, that situation is just not good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    OP I strongly encourage you to report this - I know you are doing your best and will help this poor dog - but unless there has been some crazy misunderstanding
    over this dogs care - the owners of this dog knowingly left him in this state.

    He has no shelter, its filthy (even if it was clean the poor thing has no space is on his own and is up on a bloody balcony) he has f -all water, what kind of people think it is acceptable to treat a living creature in such a way. What else are they capable of? Im almost certain the ISPCA will be able to seize him as such are the conditions, no shelter, filth, danger etc..... I so strongly encourage you to report this.

    I had to re add this as I feel so strongly _Please let the authorities deal with this - Please Please report this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Ignoring the dog, the neighbours are clearly complete slobs, so I wouldn't be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Food & water are things easily remedied, and the neigbour's friend may do that. But under no definition does that dog have adequate shelter (a big plant pot isn't a bloody shelter).

    Wait till the friend comes back to you and point out that the conditions are inadequate - either the dog is taken somewhere where it has shelter (like inside the apartment), is given to you to take care of, or you're going to contact the Gardai.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Oh dear Mother of God...

    I'm in tears reading this. And he looks a dear little fella too. Is there any way you can take him until the wretched owners get home? I wouldn't trust that neighbour as far as I threw them. They didn't give a **** until you called them out.

    I don't think it's wickedness TBH. It's ignorance which is nearly as bad

    What I would give to meet their plane and give them a piece of my mind. Fair play to you OP for caring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭daltonmd


    God love the poor critter. And through it all you say he's a jolly little thing. There's a good home with caring people and active kids just waiting for that little guy, the owners really do not deserve the love of that dog and bless him he's probably as loyal to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    maggiepip wrote: »
    OP I strongly encourage you to report this - I know you are doing your best and will help this poor dog - but unless there has been some crazy misunderstanding
    over this dogs care - the owners of this dog knowingly left him in this state.

    He has no shelter, its filthy (even if it was clean the poor thing has no space is on his own and is up on a bloody balcony) he has f -all water, what kind of people think it is acceptable to treat a living creature in such a way. What else are they capable of? Im almost certain the ISPCA will be able to seize him as such are the conditions, no shelter, filth, danger etc..... I so strongly encourage you to report this.

    I understand. However, for the sake of a few hours, I feel that it's only right to give the friend the chance to sort out the dog. Bulldozing ahead will not look well if this ever has to be explained, whereas she now has the chance to resolve it.
    seamus wrote: »
    Ignoring the dog, the neighbours are clearly complete slobs, so I wouldn't be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Food & water are things easily remedied, and the neigbour's friend may do that. But under no definition does that dog have adequate shelter (a big plant pot isn't a bloody shelter).

    Wait till the friend comes back to you and point out that the conditions are inadequate - either the dog is taken somewhere where it has shelter (like inside the apartment), is given to you to take care of, or you're going to contact the Gardai.

    Apologies, I should have added that the neighbour has asked the owners if the dog can come inside, and is awaiting a reply. If the answer is no, then I will proceed with Gardai / ISPCA involvement.
    Sappa wrote: »
    That is disgusting to see,please call the Gardai on these inconsiderate people.
    That dog deserves far far better than that,all the ****e we complain about on shows like Joe Duffy but they would never highlight cases like this instead.
    Op you've done great work bringing this to attention now it's time to let these people answer to the law and enforce the rights of an animal as unfortunately it's up to you to be the voice of that poor little pup.

    I know that :( As I said though, I feel I have to give this woman the chance to sort this. If she makes no effort, or it's not sorted out properly, then I can proceed knowing she had the chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Oh my god - that's just atrocious. Take the dog in yourself, inform the authorities. Those people are not fit to have an animal! I'd feel guilty if I didn't bring my dog for a walk one day if it was lashing out, let alone leave him alone for any extended period of time.

    Where is this btw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    Can I just say also - if the poor dog is left there barking etc - it could encourage the management to enforce a ban on everyone keeping dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Oh my god - that's just atrocious. Take the dog in yourself, inform the authorities. Those people are not fit to have an animal! I'd feel guilty if I didn't bring my dog for a walk one day if it was lashing out, let alone leave him alone for any extended period of time.

    Where is this btw?

    We can't take him in - number 1, that's theft. Number 2, we're on adjacent balconies, but no access.
    It's in Santry Cross (border of Santry & Ballymun).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I understand. However, for the sake of a few hours, I feel that it's only right to give the friend the chance to sort out the dog. Bulldozing ahead will not look well if this ever has to be explained, whereas she now has the chance to resolve it.



    Apologies, I should have added that the neighbour has asked the owners if the dog can come inside, and is awaiting a reply. If the answer is no, then I will proceed with Gardai / ISPCA involvement.



    I know that :( As I said though, I feel I have to give this woman the chance to sort this. If she makes no effort, or it's not sorted out properly, then I can proceed knowing she had the chance.

    Well done and I think that this is the wise and right course of action. For all concerned and especially the dog.

    You have caught them out and challenged them. Often such a course can resolve matters for the dog.


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