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Neighbours have deserted dog for a month...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Please report this asap. I wouldnt give it longer than the morning before reporting it. Is the neighbour going to take the dog in?? The dog absolutely cannot live on this balcony for a month, end of.

    Please report it before you regret doing so. The dog is obviously suffering already so please dont leave it any longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    andreac wrote: »
    Please report this asap. I wouldnt give it longer than the morning before reporting it. Is the neighbour going to take the dog in?? The dog absolutely cannot live on this balcony for a month, end of.

    Please report it before you regret doing so. The dog is obviously suffering already so please dont leave it any longer.

    I won't be giving her until morning. She was told this morning before I went to work, and she said she would do it today. If she doesn't, then that's it. That dog will not live there any longer than it has to.

    TBH at the moment, the dog has calmed down so much just with us giving it a wee visit every so often. He's chewing the Bonio in his flower pot right now. But believe me, this will be resolved one way or another sharpish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Does he literally only have that square you can see in the pic??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    andreac wrote: »
    Does he literally only have that square you can see in the pic??

    Yes.
    It's literally 5ft x 4.5ft.
    We measured the same area on our balcony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭650Ginge


    andreac wrote: »
    Does he literally only have that square you can see in the pic??

    Yes.
    It's literally 5ft x 4.5ft.
    We measured the same area on our balcony.

    Why not just get him out of there. If you don't want hassle with the neighbours I will do it.

    There is no excuses that dog needs out of there. His friendlyness is a plea for help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    650Ginge wrote: »
    Why not just get him out of there. If you don't want hassle with the neighbours I will do it.

    There is no excuses that dog needs out of there. His friendlyness is a plea for help.

    Thanks for the reply, but please read the thread or at least my replies - I've already said it twice; we can't just grab him because:

    A) It's theft, which is illegal
    B) We're 4 stories up with no access to their balcony bar me doing a Spiderman and climbing over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Yes.
    It's literally 5ft x 4.5ft.
    We measured the same area on our balcony.

    Omg, that is unreal :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    A flower pot for shelter, a bowl of yellowed water with faeces floating in it, surrounded by his own waste, no walks, no companionship. Just.....:(

    Atleast he has someone looking out for him who cares now, well done and fair play. Hopefully there will be a happy ending to this story, keep updated OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    The Gardai must be called. Let us know the outcome.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Sean Bateman


    Shocking stuff.

    My worry is that the poor dog will end up being put down if you call the Gardai or ISPCA without a ready made solution.

    Would they come out and sanction you taking the dog?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    Op if there is a danger of that happening I will take the dog down the west.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭2qk4u


    I agree with you guys here, the dogs is not to be left in this state. But as stated the OP has to be careful and the dogs further welfare is important. Im also aware that the dog might be in trouble when the owner comes home to the not so friendly welcome. Ive seen dogs being punished by owners for less, my gut instinct is that the dog needs to come out of there immediately regardless of who removes it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,264 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    When I was around 10 or 11, I remember our neighbour having dogs. I could hear them bark all the time, but could never see them.

    After hearing them whimper and bark for 3 hours, I waited until evening before sneaking into the neighbours back field to see if the dogs were ok.

    There was a reason I never saw them. There was a reason I never heard barking coming from anywhere but one position.

    The dogs were locked up in a rusted abandoned car with a 5 cm gap in one of the windows. The chairs had been ripped out. They were literally up to their own ankles in faeces and were being fed scraps that were being dumped onto the faeces. As far as I could see, they were never let out and they looked in terrible condition.

    I immediately told my parents who reported it and the dogs were taken away.

    One of the proudest moments of my life. I contemplated not telling anyone in case I got the neighbours into trouble, but had I not, I would have regretted it more than anything in my life.

    OP, your instinct to act is correct. Call the relative authorities and get the dog out of these deplorable conditions.

    Well done for giving this the attention it deserves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    I am disgusted by this - once again, fair play to you OP for trying to fix it.

    Personally, I think regardless of today's outcome, the ISPCA and police need to be contacted. Cruelty to animals should not be tolerated, and they should be reported for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭noddyone2


    I lived beside people in Sligo whose children's idea of fun was to swing their kitten by the tail against a wall. I nicked the kitten and found it a really good home. Pity I couldn't have drowned the brats and their parents. What breed of dog is it? Someone will offer a home, I'm sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭maggiepip


    This thread has really unsettled me. I dont like the mentality of owners who think it is ok to leave their dog in this god awful state.

    If the Gardai were called I am pretty certain they would have this sorted out to the benefit of this poor dog. They would ask the DSPCA to meet them at the apartment and would authorize permission for the dog to be removed and handed over to the care of (I would presume) the DSPCA.

    I am very uncomfortable with allowing the so called owners to sort this out. I would highly doubt they will say its ok to bring the dog inside (and even if they did will the poor thing get any care for the month? What if he is just left inside without food or water?

    If the minder takes the little thing away - where is he going? They could stick him in a cage inside the house and no one will know.

    You know the right thing, the moral thing to do regardless is to inform the gardai and ask them to work with the relevant SPCA. Please do this. For the sake of this little dog please hand this matter over to the authorities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭tazwaz


    oh god this is awful, your pictures are really unsettling. i cant believe they've left this guy for a month in that tiny space. i wouldnt leave my guy over night in a fine size garden!!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    The problem with giving the woman a chance is you're not sure whether you're giving her a chance to fix the problem, or to hide it.
    => report it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Nothingbetter2d


    We can't take him in - number 1, that's theft. Number 2, we're on adjacent balconies, but no access.
    It's in Santry Cross (border of Santry & Ballymun).

    lymewood mews eh? i used to live there... nice apts

    honestly just call the dscpa to come take it away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Bubblefett


    OP, you're doing the right thing giving the "friend" time to correct the problem (though the neighbors really don't deserve such decent behavior imo).
    Do you have a contact number for them to call today if they don't get back to you?
    At least should it come to the ISPCA you've plenty of evidence. There'll be no deigning that you neighbors do not deserve a dog.

    You're certainly doing everything you can for that dog, I wish more people were like yourself and your girlfriend. Please keep us posted on the poor pup.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Bonus_Pack


    OP, I am truely shocked and upset at those conditions. To be honest, I think you should have no mercy. Those owners/women have already had their chance. If I were you I would have thrown the book at them - RSPCA, Police, Dog Warden, the works. IMHO, a person living in a 4th floor appartment has no business keeping anything bigger than a hamster, let alone a dog. Ideally I would not like to see animals kept in crammed semi-d housing estates either, but the situation described here is taking the absolute piss.

    If it turns out the owners left the dog to the woman in good faith under the impression she would look after it, then you really need to rat her out for what she is. I would not fall for her tactic of sorting it out. I would demand to witness the phone conversation via speakerphone to ensure she is telling the owners the full story and not feeding them a fairytale about you offering totake the dog.
    To me it reeks of her trying to pander to you to save face in case you tell the owner what she did. I'd rat her out if i were you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭DeeRottie


    I'm sorry but I can't stand by, I've just emailed this thread to the Dublin SPCA. This dog has a basic right to shelter, CLEAN water, care, etc and this is not being provided. I'm shocked and appalled at these conditions. The DSPCA have my full name and can pin this on me for reporting it which I am fine with that, I have no idea who anyone else on here is, no other names will be mentioned. Although I would suggest other people report this matter as the louder people shout then the more likely it is that we will be heard.

    Thanks for looking out for this dog OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I have also reported this thread to the DSPCA.

    I am appalled by the pictures of the conditions this dog is being kept in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I've good news.

    We talked to the 'friends' and convinced them to let us walk the dog. The dog is unbelievably energetic and playful, and loved the walk. Never seen a dog happier to play in grass before. We got back, and the friends were waiting for us.

    I explained that as there had been no reply from the owners, the dog would not be sleeping on the balcony as it was not suitable. I said we would take it in at least temporarily, and they agreed.

    The dog is currently skittering around our apartment after a walk with our own dog (the one who was lost and we homed about 2 years ago, documented here on Boards!) and is happy as can be with some company, warmth and food/water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Fair play to you OP.

    I hope the DSPCA follow up and the owners get what they deserve on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Fair play to you Jimmy for stepping in, a lot of people wouldn't be so proactive about it.

    At this stage, as the dog has been taken out of those conditions, there's not much any SPCA can do. Their primary objective is to save the dog from the conditions, which has now been done.
    In more extreme cases they can take a civil prosecution, but in this case a court would see it as minor neglect, and for any organisation which is funded almost entirely through charity such a court case is expensive when that money could be used to help other animals.

    I would however keep in touch with the SPCA and send them on the pictures. At the very least when the owners return an inspector can call out and educate them on proper care of the dog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Oh, I am SO happy to hear that! At least the little fella can have his own 'holiday' with lovely people like you and your OH to love and care for him! :D

    When are the 'owners' due back? What are the next steps, so's to speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    I've just read this thread from start to finish. Good on you OP for doing all you did for this dog, so many people would have just not even noticed or turned a blind eye, I'm glad it had a happy ending but is it just a temporary happy ending? What happens when the neighbours get back are you giving them back their dog? I would just worry that if they're the type of people who think it's acceptable to leave their dog on a balcony for a month, what's to say they won't put him back out there, you can't be on their case 24/7, it's just too sad to contemplate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Oh, I am SO happy to hear that! At least the little fella can have his own 'holiday' with lovely people like you and your OH to love and care for him! :D

    When are the 'owners' due back? What are the next steps, so's to speak.

    The owners are due back in a month's time. Apparently they've been gone a week, which seems about right for when she started waking me up. Oh yeah, the dog is a she :)

    I don't honestly know what our plan is. Right now, I don't feel comfortable giving the dog back to the owners knowing they left her here on the balcony exposed for a month. Right now, I believe I'll be telling them they're not getting the dog back based on the photographs we took and the squalor the dog was living in.

    Also thanks for all the support from everyone in the thread. I don't know how we keep finding these homeless/abused animals (this is the 3rd dog in 2 years!) but I couldn't let her stay where she was as she was.

    A quick shot of the gruesome twosome:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    Op I think a huge cause for the amount of animal abuse and neglect is that the laws are a joke in this country regarding the protection of animals.
    I hope one day this will all change and future generations can look back in disgust at how people like this were allowed walk away from their responsibility to this dog.
    You've done a good thing today op and it's folks like yourself and your gf who have helped defenceless little animals and given them a good life.


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