Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

oranbhoy67 · 16-06-2012 07:54PM

I know the new club is called "the rangers' but they will still have the same type of fans so they will still be the huns to me

TheBuilder · 16-06-2012 08:04PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Have to say mate... I'm loving the hurt!!!

Yeah well it's not easy to see the club you love fall apart, as I already posted a couple of pages back I wouldn't want any true fan like yourself, dempsey, rory, to have to go through it, the 'fair weather only here to laugh at Rangers' people that are popping up is a different story.

They'll be the same people who fill the thousands of pages about us on KDS.

oranbhoy67 · 16-06-2012 08:07PM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Yeah well it's not easy to see the club you love fall apart, as I already posted a couple of pages back I wouldn't want any true fan to have to go through it, the 'fair weather only here to laugh at Rangers' people that are popping up is a different story.

They'll be the same people who fill the thousands of pages about us on KDS.

Why are you going on KDS then, obssessed with us are you?

TheBuilder · 16-06-2012 08:09PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Why are you going on KDS then, obssessed with us are you?

I don't, my mum and my sister are Celtic fans, so I am aware of what goes on.

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 09:04PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Why are you going on KDS then, obssessed with us are you?

... he says, while posting in a Rangers thread.

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 09:15PM

Anyways, lets get back onto topic

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18471197

Rangers fans, if there is any that havent jumped ship to the newco yet, should be proud that their shambles of a club have been the catalyst for the SFA finally grabbing the SPL and SFL by the scruff of the necks and forcing them to merge. Also you can be proud that your shambles of a club has galvanised the entire scottish football fan community into wanting clubs to finally stand up and demand proper sporting integrity. Kudos, the death of your club leaves a lasting legacy for Scottish Football! :pac:

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 09:26PM

And what exactly does this have to do with this situation ?

Or were you just looking for something to post which would allow you to peddle the myth that the club is completely gone ?

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 09:31PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

And what exactly does this have to do with this situation ?

Or were you just looking for something to post which would allow you to peddle the myth that the club is completely gone ?

The SFA are fast tracking changes outlined in the McLeish report because of whats happening Rangers. You wouldnt be asking this if you bothered to read the article.

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 09:33PM

I did read it, I was more talking about your incessant need to constantly moan about how Rangers is dead or dying or whatever silly idea it is you have.

Eirebear · 16-06-2012 09:35PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Why are you going on KDS then, obssessed with us are you?

You'll still be an immature, narrow minded pain in the proverbial.
Nice to know the status quo still exists eh?

RoryMac · 16-06-2012 09:37PM

TheBuilder wrote: »

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Have to say mate... I'm loving the hurt!!!

Yeah well it's not easy to see the club you love fall apart, as I already posted a couple of pages back I wouldn't want any true fan like yourself, dempsey, rory, to have to go through it, the 'fair weather only here to laugh at Rangers' people that are popping up is a different story.

They'll be the same people who fill the thousands of pages about us on KDS.

I have to say I'm not getting any enjoyment out of the situation Scottish football finds it's self in at the minute, sure I enjoy that Rangers are suffering for years of fiddling the books but i also have a lot of sympathy for the vast majority of their fans that are suffering because of decisions made which they had no control over.

I have a lot of respect for the Rangers fans on here who come on and give their view on the situation, something I feel i miss out on when reading other forums.

I remember how it felt the day a similar thing nearly happened at Celtic and i don't wish that on any true supporter of any club.

I certainly hope Rangers are back challenging soon.

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 09:38PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I did read it, I was more talking about your incessant need to constantly moan about how Rangers is dead or dying or whatever silly idea it is you have.

Dig your heels in all you want, its akin to Juventus and the 3 stars on their jersey.

When the SFA/SPL deduct titles off Rangers I think your head will explode :P

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 09:42PM

Still going on about that ?

You've been saying that for months now, and there is still absolutely no indication that they will do that.

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 09:49PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Still going on about that ?

You've been saying that for months now, and there is still absolutely no indication that they will do that.

You do realise that Rangers is under investigation by the SPL for dual contracts. You do also realise that the CVA rejection gives the liquidators, which will be appointed by HMRC for the purpose of going after Rangers directors for tax liability, the legal powers to investigate and this could provide further evidence for the SFA/SPL on top of their own investigation. Illegal players result in 3-0 losses for any match they are involved with.

No indication, really?

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 10:02PM

You do realise that that investigation is on hold until the Newco situation is resolved ?

Unless the SFA come out and say 'Yeah, we're going to strip them of trophies' then all you've got is hopes of Celtic fans all over the world.

Not to mention that you can't really strip trophies of a club that is no longer there.
Unless... you're agreeing that the Newco will hold the same history ?

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 10:07PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You do realise that that investigation is on hold until the Newco situation is resolved ?

Unless the SFA come out and say 'Yeah, we're going to strip them of trophies' then all you've got is hopes of Celtic fans all over the world.

Not to mention that you can't really strip trophies of a club that is no longer there.
Unless... you're agreeing that the Newco will hold the same history ?

I know the investigation is on hold but it flies in the face of your "absolutely no indication" comment.

The standard practice is to null and void matches (3-0 to the other team) where illegal players are involved. I shouldnt have to point this out to you.

Rangers can be retrospectively stripped of results and titles whether they exist or not. Transferring assets into a newco affects this how?

oranbhoy67 · 16-06-2012 10:18PM

Eirebear wrote: »

You'll still be an immature, narrow minded pain in the proverbial.
Nice to know the status quo still exists eh?

Eh? What are you on?

Im suprised at all the huns on here crying and in shock that there bitter rivals are enjoying every single minute of their demise, i can remember your fans waving 20 and 50 quid notes at us i the mid. 90s singing "yous have got no money" so get off your high horse

oranbhoy67 · 16-06-2012 10:23PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

... he says, while posting in a Rangers thread.

Yes a the rangers thread not a the rangers forum,

blahfckingblah · 16-06-2012 10:25PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Changing facts again are we ?

Yes, there was laughter and mocking when Celtic were in trouble, but nowhere near the amount shown towards Rangers.

Not that I'm bothered, as TheBuilder says: Obsessed.

But at least have the balls to admit it.

oh seriously will you ever relax and realise that if the shoe was on the other foot you would be the one reveling in out situation

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 10:28PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

oh seriously will you ever relax and realise that if the shoe was on the other foot you would be the one reveling in out situation

If?

Jelle1880 · 16-06-2012 10:52PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

oh seriously will you ever relax and realise that if the shoe was on the other foot you would be the one reveling in out situation

Not to the extent you lot are.

And that's a fact.

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 10:58PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Not to the extent you lot are.

And that's a fact.

No, its your opinion and you've nothing to suggest it is a fact.

ColeTrain · 16-06-2012 10:59PM

TheBuilder wrote: »

Yeah well they always were more obsessed with us than their own team. You only have to see the 'generic hun threads' on other forums to see the levels of obsession with us, hundreds of pages a thread every couple of weeks.

Ironic considering it was Rangers obsession with Celtic that brought them down.

Hartson was signed for 6million but Murray had to double it with the Flo signing. Every fiver they spend and all that? That was obsession.

but I'm not obsessed with Rangers. I'm just enjoying this, it's a huge story and it's been a long time brewing.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Changing facts again are we ?

Yes, there was laughter and mocking when Celtic were in trouble, but nowhere near the amount shown towards Rangers.

Not that I'm bothered, as TheBuilder says: Obsessed.

But at least have the balls to admit it.

Rangers have gone to the wall. Celtic didn't. Of course it's gonna be a bigger story

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 11:10PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Hartson was signed for 6million but Murray had to double it with the Flo signing. Every fiver they spend and all that? That was obsession.

I guessing you read this

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4371825/The-day-Murrays-ego-killed-Rangers.html

To quote John Brown

“We were going beyond the budget. Money was being thrown at it. I mean Bert Konterman was on £18,000 a week! What the hell was that all about?”

“When we signed Tore Andre Flo for £12m Jim Duffy was reserve team coach at Chelsea.

“He phoned me and said ‘Are they off their heads?’. Duff said he was fifth choice at Chelsea and a semi-retired Luca Vialli was ahead of him. Then Richard Gough phoned me. He was at Everton and he’d played against him and he just didn’t rate Flo in that sort of bracket.

“Those would have been two simple phone calls to make. Were Sir David and Advocaat not doing their homework?

“It was not just the £12m, it was £30,000-a-week in wages, minimum.

“When you spend money like that, it’s just throwing it away.”

“Flo’s true value was £4-6m and we threw £12m at that deal. That’s the sort of bad financial management of a football club that comes back to haunt you.

“We turned down John Hartson by failing him on a medical and we signed Flo.

“The day we dumped the Hartson deal we signed Ronald de Boer who had well-documented knee trouble of his own.

“A Dutch doctor sanctioned that. Strange that, eh?”

Ye made John Hartson a bitter man because of your treatment of him during his medical. Well Done! :pac:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/sponsors-side-with-smith-as-newco-loses-support.17891030

Sponsors are beginning to pull out of Rangers in support of Walter Smith's bid to buy control from Charles Green.

Walter Smith could derail the newco yet

ColeTrain · 16-06-2012 11:15PM

Dempsey wrote: »

I guessing you read this

I did indeed..

The semi-retired Vialli getting a game over the 12million pound star striker

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 11:22PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

I did indeed..

The semi-retired Vialli getting a game over the 12million pound star striker

Its shocking to hear comments like that tbh. Flo came in a fanfare whilst people involved at the club thought that before the ink dried!

Eirebear · 16-06-2012 11:35PM

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Eh? What are you on?

Im suprised at all the huns on here crying and in shock that there bitter rivals are enjoying every single minute of their demise, i can remember your fans waving 20 and 50 quid notes at us i the mid. 90s singing "yous have got no money" so get off your high horse

I couldnt give a flying one wether people like you are enjoying it or not tbh.
You're average post on this thread is filled with bitterness and hatred, and generally lacking anything in the direction of intelligence.

As you were.

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 11:49PM

Eirebear wrote: »

I couldnt give a flying one wether people like you are enjoying it or not tbh.
You're average post on this thread is filled with bitterness and hatred, and generally lacking anything in the direction of intelligence.

As you were.

He's said nothing that I've not said. You looking at post counts before deciding who should have an opinion or not?

monkey9 · 16-06-2012 11:49PM

Eirebear wrote: »

I couldnt give a flying one wether people like you are enjoying it or not tbh.
You're average post on this thread is filled with bitterness and hatred, and generally lacking anything in the direction of intelligence.

As you were.

A Celtic fan with bitterness and hatred towards Rangers! Well i never!!!! Next you'll be telling me that Rangers fans have some sort of bitterness and hatred towards Celtic!

Dempsey · 16-06-2012 11:51PM

monkey9 wrote: »

A Celtic fan with bitterness and hatred towards Rangers! Well i never!!!! Next you'll be telling me that Rangers fans have some sort of bitterness and hatred towards Celtic!

Shockin' :pac:

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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