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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭giant_midget


    Their the people who your all afraid of! The reason you sit on the lower deck of the bus. Some are entrepreneurs who you probably get your drugs off. And in a weird way you admire them cause they don't really give a fuk about societies rules and norms unlike you!

    are you drunk or something? admire them???...if you admire them you are as patethic as them...i've heard it all now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    One thing I'd like to get away from is this 'class' thing - I don't think it pertains to modern Ireland. You could be from Dolphin's Barn and grow up to be a brain surgeon if you work hard. I'm sure I don't need to say that people from low-income backgrounds can be the nicest folks you will ever meet, same as any other social group.

    'Class' these days is something you choose by your aspirations and the goals you set for yourself. I have friends who have some siblings who are 'working class' and some who are 'middle class' - with the exact same upbringing and opportunities.

    Hence, I think we need a new term when discussing this 'class' stuff, or recognise that 'class' is no longer something you are born into but something you choose.

    If only everyone had equal choice. Of course it sounds nice to say that wherever you are born and whatever your circumstances, you can still achieve anything if you work hard enough. It's very comforting in its simplicity to apply the same potentiality to every individual, ranking with the same measuring stick.

    Truth is that life isn't just about choices, it's also about chances. If you've been born in to a family that doesn't value literacy, what chances do you have of becoming, say, a doctor? Sure you still have the choice to go to school and work hard, because every child has that chance. But maybe your mother spends the money that could go to school lunches on booze instead. So the school day is spent hungry and distracted, hardly equal to others who are well fed and concentrating, who can go home and get help with their homework from their parents if they're stuck.

    We can all run the same race but some peoples starting point is way way back, and they also have a limp and no running shoes.


  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Their the people who your all afraid of! The reason you sit on the lower deck of the bus. Some are entrepreneurs who you probably get your drugs off. And in a weird way you admire them cause they don't really give a fuk about societies rules and norms unlike you!

    Look at this skanger!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭Bell Butter


    Their the people who your all afraid of! The reason you sit on the lower deck of the bus. Some are entrepreneurs who you probably get your drugs off. And in a weird way you admire them cause they don't really give a fuk about societies rules and norms unlike you!

    They're all dirt bags gaz.

    I love the way they "trun" stuff instead of "throw" and "streal", what does streal mean. Can someone explain?

    "HEEEEOOORRRR, I'LL BLEEEDIN TRUN DIS AT YEH AND STREAL OUW OF YEH"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Cianos wrote: »
    If you've been born in to a family that doesn't value literacy, what chances do you have of becoming, say, a doctor?
    Slim - but don't blame 'society', blame your parents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Cianos wrote: »
    If only everyone had equal choice. Of course it sounds nice to say that wherever you are born and whatever your circumstances, you can still achieve anything if you work hard enough. It's very comforting in its simplicity to apply the same potentiality to every individual, ranking with the same measuring stick.

    Truth is that life isn't just about choices, it's also about chances. If you've been born in to a family that doesn't value literacy, what chances do you have of becoming, say, a doctor? Sure you still have the choice to go to school and work hard, because every child has that chance. But maybe your mother spends the money that could go to school lunches on booze instead. So the school day is spent hungry and distracted, hardly equal to others who are well fed and concentrating, who can go home and get help with their homework from their parents if they're stuck.

    We can all run the same race but some peoples starting point is way way back, and they also have a limp and no running shoes.

    Being illiterate doesn't excuse hanging around LUAS stops all day hassling commuters.

    Lots of decent people are just straight up poor, especially these days, being a skanger comes down to attitude and anti-social behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Slim - but don't blame 'society', blame your parents.

    Of course. However it's still the duty of society to work towards minimising the number of these cases, for many reasons.


  • Subscribers Posts: 126 ✭✭Camo22


    If you went to wesley and told the bouncers you from Foxrock, followed by "ehhhhh beside the rock bud"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    hardCopy wrote: »
    Being illiterate doesn't excuse hanging around LUAS stops all day hassling commuters.

    Lots of decent people are just straight up poor, especially these days, being a skanger comes down to attitude and anti-social behaviour.

    Yeah, not everyone who is illiterate is antisocial. But some environments are typically more contributive to becoming antisocial than others, for example those that don't encourage literacy.

    It's obvious that money isn't the deciding factor, because as you say many poverty stricken people are very decent. In the same way many wealthy people are antisocial in their own ways.

    Still, poverty does correlate with lack of opportunity, poor education, poor resources, poor opportunity and, given these conditions, more likely antisocial behavior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Cianos wrote: »
    Still, poverty does correlate with lack of opportunity, poor education, poor resources, poor opportunity and, given these conditions, more likely antisocial behavior.
    Indeed. I wonder though to what extent though the tendency to be anti-social leads to downward social mobility, and to what extent the low social status causes the anti-social tendencies? Chicken/egg scenario.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    bnt wrote: »
    One tell-tale sign of "lower class" people, which isn't unique to Ireland, is in the way they treat public spaces. If you go to a park or the like, they are the ones who are littering or breaking things, they're arguing loudly, kids are screaming, and so on.

    If you want to be seen as classy, treat public spaces with respect. Don't litter, don't damage things, and shut the hell up. The public domain is everyone's - it's not yours to pollute, not even for a little while. If you do it right, it will be like you were never there. ;)

    I just love this post, I couldn't have put it better myself.
    I'm quite happy to be a snob.
    I have no desire whatsoever to be Anywhere that skangers are and I definitely don't want my children mixing with skanger children either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    Cianos wrote: »
    Yeah, not everyone who is illiterate is antisocial. But some environments are typically more contributive to becoming antisocial than others, for example those that don't encourage literacy.

    It's obvious that money isn't the deciding factor, because as you say many poverty stricken people are very decent. In the same way many wealthy people are antisocial in their own ways.

    Still, poverty does correlate with lack of opportunity, poor education, poor resources, poor opportunity and, given these conditions, more likely antisocial behavior.

    I think it's a cop out to blame anti social behaviour on being poor.
    There is no reason this should be so. We grew up during the 70's and haddnt a bean, we were poor but still we were taught a sense of respect for others and their property. During the recession in the 80's we were taught to go out and work for whatever pay could be got doing anything there was to be done. Now for some reason kids are being conditioned that if they aren't getting management wages they shouldn't bother working, while at the same time the parents don't encourage them to do well at school or get an education.

    I drove a bus for a while bringing youth reach kids to the centre and to be honest the best public service I could have done was to lock the doors and burn them all in the bus! Such a bunch of waster no hopers it was unbelievable. To my knowledge none have work and the girls have children to multiple fathers before age 21.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    pontia wrote: »
    where are you from cisco student ? u ever been in inchicore ?

    If you read the thread you would know , as I mentioned it twice.:D

    Yes I've been TO Inchicore. Before you go getting all offended , that post was a JOKE it was something called HUMOUR and is not meant to be taken LITERALLY.

    Capisce?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    smash wrote: »
    We should start a "have you ever made love to a skanger" thread...
    There goes my breakfast :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    mrroboito wrote: »
    This thread is just offensive.
    I haven't found any lies in it yet...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Mance Rayder


    mrroboito wrote: »
    This thread is just offensive.

    It's only offensive if you're a skanger. If so well done you must be in the top 1% of skang that can read and use the internet, give yourself a jonny blue and a dutch gold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    You're a skanger if:
    • You wear a tracksuit everyday with ridiculously expensive runners.
    • You play Izbiza Hits out loud on the bus.
    • Have a screaming match with the missus in the middle of a busy street.
    • Walk around topless in public on a sunny day.
    • Have I.R.A or celtic cross tattoos on your forearms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Slim - but don't blame 'society', blame your parents.

    You can also blame yourself.

    Everyone has the choice to either

    a: throw bricks at an oncoming car
    or
    b: go home, apply to college and turn on nat geo.

    Social background, and disadvantaged njeighbourhood cannot realistically force you to behave like a chimp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Their the people who your all afraid of! The reason you sit on the lower deck of the bus. Some are entrepreneurs who you probably get your drugs off. And in a weird way you admire them cause they don't really give a fuk about societies rules and norms unlike you!

    why should they give a fcuk? Everything is handed to them on a plate and they are encouraged to sponge. their apologists would argue our society is not their society. what we need is some junkie(no, not coke, thats too aceptable) scanger to sit in the Dail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 352 ✭✭Best username ever


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    You can also blame yourself.

    Everyone has the choice to either

    a: trun bricks at an oncoming car
    or
    b: go home, apply to college and turn on nat geo.

    Social background, and disadvantaged njeighbourhood cannot realistically force you to behave like a chimp.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    bbam wrote: »
    I just love this post, I couldn't have put it better myself.
    I'm quite happy to be a snob.
    I have no desire whatsoever to be Anywhere that skangers are and I definitely don't want my children mixing with skanger children either.

    sorry, but the middle and upper classes are just as bad. they might no blare tout their music but they will throw rubbish, cos they are used to having someone else clean up after them. they will also only obey rules they consider appropriate.

    of course you could have your kids mix with southsiders who have a very narrow view of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭anhedonia


    From an old wikipedia article on Skangers, I cant believe this article was taken down, its so incredibly apt:
    • The wearing of baseball caps at improbably large angles.
    • The wearing of white, branded trainers, with the laces behind the tongue of the shoe. Often, tracksuit bottoms tucked into white branded socks are worn.
    • The wearing of very short haircuts (sometimes with a short fringe or quiff at the front) in males.
    • Older male scangers can be seen sporting a small furry moustache made famous by Irish boxer Barry McGuigan.
    • Very fond of the bling culture so the wearing of prominent jewellery: facial jewellery, large rings (mostly sovereigns) and thick chains (worn around the neck or wrist) is compulsory. Jewellery is often made of gold, or has the appearance of gold. Large neckchains are commonly worn over clothing; typically on the outside of a t-shirt.
    • Often smoking, prefered brands being John Player Blue for men and Silk Cut Purple for women.
    • A particular gait, often likened to the walk and bobbing head of a pigeon.
    • A stance similar to that of someone with a tennis ball underneath each armpit .
    • When walking solo down the street, will keep his eyes firmly on the footpath.
    • Habitual public spitting.
    • When using the bus, will sit upstairs at the back and smoke.
    • Quite often malnourished
    • Males usually go topless in sunshine, but carry jacket in hand just in case.

    The stereotypical accent is a particularly noticeable characteristic in this grouping. In Dublin, the accent resembles the typical inner-city accent, but with some slight differences:
    • The speaker speaks in a rather high-pitched nasal tone, and some sounds are consequently slurred to some extent.
    • There is apparent difficulty in pronouncing vowel sounds such as the short 'o' sound of 'oh', often enunciated as 'ah', as in 'story' ('starry'). The flat 'u' sound of 'uh' also causes some difficulty: this is variously rendered as either a long and emphasised 'uuh' sound, or 'eh', as in
    • A corrupted form of Dublin slang is used, which is so modified it is sometimes quite unintelligible to other Dubliners. A common greeting used by so-called scangers is pronounced 'starry buud?', a corruption of the Dublin phrase 'what's the story, bud?', meaning, 'how are you, my friend?'. Generally, diphtongs are not pronounced, rather separated into two different sounds.
    • Syllables are often added to single-syllable words. For example "I bunked off skoo-well" rather than "I took some unauthorised absence from school"
    • 'Wha'?', a contraction of 'what?', is used frequently at the end of a statment to pose the question 'do you understand what I am saying?'. For example, 'Deadly buzz that is, wha'?'. 'Wha' is also used in conversation with non-scangers to force the non-scanger to repeat their question, this allows the scanger time to comprehend 'non scanger' speech. The overuse of the term 'wha' has developed into scangers often uttering a 'Swha' noise at all times.
    • Some scangers, along with some Dubliners not identifiable with the scanger stereotype, use a curious version of the possessive adjective form of 'you' (plural), normally enunciated as 'your', which is pronounced in this case as 'yezzer'. A possible explanation for this is that it is a combination of 'yez', a corruption of Dublin slang 'yous' (the second-person plural pronoun), and 'your'.
    • 'Anyway' has mutated into 'Inanyways' as a preferred sentence opener or to notify a change of subject, for example: 'Inanyways, have yez any blow?'
    • The generalisation of the ending of peoples names with a vowel, most commonly "O,A,I & E". Example, Thomas - "Tommo", Anthony - "Anto", Declan - "Decco". Girls names for example, Patricia - Patricieaaa - extenuating the "a" at the end as well as "ic" into an "ieeeeeeeee". The elocution has developed to somewhat like talking while trying to keep words inside the mouth. This is achieved in a sense like making an "O" of the mouth as if to blow out a candle before talking. Vowels are thus easier to include in normal speech patterns.
    • Swearing and general vulgarity is usually common during speech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    sorry, but the middle and upper classes are just as bad. they might no blare tout their music but they will throw rubbish, cos they are used to having someone else clean up after them. they will also only obey rules they consider appropriate.

    of course you could have your kids mix with southsiders who have a very narrow view of the world.

    I'd rather be sitting beside a middle class person on the luas red line than a skanger (not that it would ever happen - the luas seems to be a fukcing creche for them).

    your rubbish throwing point is ridiculous - when was the last time you saw a skanger prepare for the tidy towns??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    It's only offensive if you're a skanger. If so well done you must be in the top 1% of skang that can read and use the internet, give yourself a jonny blue and a dutch gold.
    lol I was gonna make that point earlier when someone realised they had two skanger symptoms - the fact that they can read the posts means they are probably in the clear ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    On the flight over on your holiday you sound like an Army General about finding a "base". It's not a holiday unless you have a base. Must establish the base


    You arrive in sunny Spain and spend two weeks sitting in a dark bar getting pissed every day

    If you meet an English group you sing rebel songs on your hotel balcony.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭Thefirestarter


    Shryke wrote: »
    Nonsense, it just so happens that almost all are lower class. It's an inherent thing for the poorer off everywhere. You're jumping through hoops to justify slagging off people who were born and raised in an environment/social strata that breeds "skanger" type behavior.
    I don't mind a bit of a laugh but I see way too many people being consistent and serious in bashing certain types on here. It would be great if we could all be as well off.
    There's a real ugly side to this kind of thread and you don't have to look too deeply to see it.

    Very True, I see a lot of the same people who turned up in the "Is it common to have the tri colour on your house?" thread in here as well with the same bashing of the working class.

    Although, I think it should be made clear that there is a genuine 'Working Class' who are good people and then there is the 'Under-class', who are criminals and the dirge of our society, and give the 'Working Class' a bad name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rezident


    • . . . you hang around town every day drinking/smoking hash
    • you have no respect for society in general and think the world owes you a living
    • you think stealing is ok
    • you turn up at the Three European Championships s event and cause havoc because you have no respect for anything etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    You're a skanger if:
    If you think batter burgers are "gorge-jis".
    If you ever asked "bud" for a smoke.
    If you see your mate Jacinta at the far end of Henry street and call her at the top of your voice.
    If you smoke on the bus, or play music through the speaker on your phone at full volume on the bus/train.
    If you wear any clothes or carry a bag with "Pauls boutique" or "PB" written in big letters on it.
    If you go to the pub on a night out wearing a tracksuit.
    If a big day is coming up and you need new clothes, so you go to straight to Champions Sports.
    If you do laps of your local main street in your modified car all day.
    If Bud is your drink of choice.
    If you think Elizabeth Duke stuff is "lovely"
    If you own a Celtic jersey or have a Celtic tattoo
    If you wear a soverign ring.
    Your house is full of "collecters" stuff from The Franklin Mint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Paparazzo wrote: »
    You're a skanger if:
    If you think batter burgers are "gorge-jis".
    If you ever asked "bud" for a smoke.
    If you see your mate Jacinta at the far end of Henry street and call her at the top of your voice.
    If you smoke on the bus, or play music through the speaker on your phone at full volume on the bus/train.
    If you wear any clothes or carry a bag with "Pauls boutique" or "PB" written in big letters on it.
    If you go to the pub on a night out wearing a tracksuit.
    If a big day is coming up and you need new clothes, so you go to straight to Champions Sports.
    If you do laps of your local main street in your modified car all day.
    If Bud is your drink of choice.
    If you think Elizabeth Duke stuff is "lovely"
    If you own a Celtic jersey or have a Celtic tattoo
    If you wear a soverign ring.
    Your house is full of "collecters" stuff from The Franklin Mint
    Bud?
    What happen to dutchies?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Bud?
    What happen to dutchies?

    Sorry, should have clarfied. Bud in a pub, dutchies from the off licence.


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