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Sinn Fein appealing to the lowest common denominator

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  • #602
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    so you accept it was behind the queens visit? a queen who is over a country who claims sovereignity to 6 of your own counties? so if the pope was going to come, most people and media outlets would be against it over what went on here, about how it would be insensitive to victims etc, yet after all the irish suffering and deaths at the hands of britain the queens visit was brilliant because everything that happened "was in the past".
    Sure didn't the Brits apologise, same as SF/IRA? Don't these apologies wipe the slate clean, according to SF/IRA? Stop living in the past, man.
    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    did the government or the people who were for the visit stop to think how insensitive it would be to the irish in the north who suffered. did they ****. couldnt have cared in the slighest. just lick britains arse some more
    And you came here claiming not to be a Shinner? :D


  • #603
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    What? Do you have any clue what my stance is on a UI before you go talking out of your hole? Are you the type of idiot who uses terms like 'West Brit' and I've hurt your feelings? :rolleyes:

    WTF are you even on about?

    and out of interest what is your stance on a UI


  • #604
    Ruralyoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ruralyoke


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    irish times even had a pull-out of how great the queens visit was at the time when she came over

    :D:D:D

    Have a word with Martin Ferris, you know, the guy who said he would refuse to shake her hand and then lo and behold, (coming up to an election) decided "ah sure let's move on"

    Time in between comments? less than 18 months.

    Good ole Martin eh?


  • #605
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    And you came here claiming not to be a Shinner? :D

    never voted for them in my life. so anyone who wants a united ireland and dislikes what britain did to the country is automatically a "shinner"


  • #606
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    and out of interest what is your stance on a UI
    I'll happily see a UI when a majority, North and South, vote for it. You know - like in the GFA.


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  • #607
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Sure didn't the Brits apologise, same as SF/IRA? Don't these apologies wipe the slate clean, according to SF/IRA? Stop living in the past, man.

    And you came here claiming not to be a Shinner? :D

    no they didnt apologise. they rambled on about how they said it was unfortunate that there was so much fighting between two counties.

    and theres the mentality of what im talking about right there....in the past ye. isnt what went on in the catholic church in the past too? so either codemn both or neither. and the fact they have 6 counties means it aint in the past


  • #608
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    and the fact they have 6 counties means it aint in the past
    'They' have them? You mean the majority of people in the 6 counties who want to be British have them? Ethnic cleansing, here we come.

    How old are you?


  • #609
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    I'll happily see a UI when a majority, North and South, vote for it. You know - like in the GFA.

    you see i didnt need you to tell me what your stance was as the mentality of you and people of your ilk is quite obvious. first of all why would the people in the south have to agree to it to begin with. who are we to say other irish people can or cant be ruled by an irish government. its their birthright. but of course the irish government would opt to agree to something like that in the gfa. spinless cowards.

    it a fair unionist majority in the north ye? or a convenient peice of land where unionists had a majority, cut off to uphold a status quo?


  • #610
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    'They' have them? You mean the majority of people in the 6 counties who want to be British have them? Ethnic cleansing, here we come.

    How old are you?

    why not throw in the rest of ulster for the craic and see what the majority is then? or throw in a 10th county for good measure. democracy ye? ye lets all go around and hand pick counties that will make convenient majorities like the brits did. and sure we'll all call it democracy


  • #611
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    'They' have them? You mean the majority of people in the 6 counties who want to be British have them? Ethnic cleansing, here we come.

    How old are you?

    another way of saying what about the 750,000 of unionists who dont want a united ireland? what about the other half of the community who do.....your own people. again, why look at it from the unionists point of view, you being an "irish" man and all that. if your not willing to argue for your own people, why argue at all


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  • #612
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    you see i didnt need you to tell me what your stance was as the mentality of you and people of your ilk is quite obvious. first of all why would the people in the south have to agree to it to begin with. who are we to say other irish people can or cant be ruled by an irish government. its their birthright. but of course the irish government would opt to agree to something like that in the gfa. spinless cowards.

    it a fair unionist majority in the north ye? or a convenient peice of land where unionists had a majority, cut off to uphold a status quo?

    You do realise, as it stands, SF are happy with the GFA ,acknowledging it and pledging to stand by it.


  • #613
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    you see i didnt need you to tell me what your stance was as the mentality of you and people of your ilk is quite obvious. first of all why would the people in the south have to agree to it to begin with. who are we to say other irish people can or cant be ruled by an irish government. its their birthright. but of course the irish government would opt to agree to something like that in the gfa. spinless cowards.

    it a fair unionist majority in the north ye? or a convenient peice of land where unionists had a majority, cut off to uphold a status quo?

    HA HA - NOW HE COMES OUT AGAINST DEMOCRACY ITSELF!!! :D


  • #614
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    mattjack wrote: »
    You do realise, as it stands, SF are happy with the GFA ,acknowledging it and pledging to stand by it.

    because the have to ok with it, to be seen to "move forward" do you really think they are ok with a division still in the country?


  • #615
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    No it was coined by ignorant knuckle-dragging morons who think that every Irish person should be the exact same as them.


    Actually it was coined by Daniel O'Connell in a favourable context. Don't let that stop the sneer-fest though.


  • #616
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Nodin wrote: »
    Actually it was coined by Daniel O'Connell in a favourable context. Don't let that stop the sneer-fest though.
    I won't, thanks. :D


  • #617
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    HA HA - NOW HE COMES OUT AGAINST DEMOCRACY ITSELF!!! :D

    no i dont. the north would have a vote first. if they voted into a united ireland, then we would to vote to see do we "accept them". WHO ARE WE to say another irish man in the north can or cant be ruled by an irish government? its their birthright as much as ours


  • #618
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Ruralyoke wrote: »
    :D:D:D

    Have a word with Martin Ferris, you know, the guy who said he would refuse to shake her hand and then lo and behold, (coming up to an election) decided "ah sure let's move on"

    Time in between comments? less than 18 months.

    Good ole Martin eh?

    He must be the first politician ever to do a U-turn.


  • #619
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    no i dont. the north would have a vote first. if they voted into a united ireland, then we would to vote to see do we "accept them". WHO ARE WE to say another irish man in the north can or cant be ruled by an irish government? its their birthright as much as ours

    To be honest, they might be better off not being ruled by the shower running here (into the ground).


  • #620
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    because the have to ok with it, to be seen to "move forward" do you really think they are ok with a division still in the country?

    I don't know, what do you think ?

    I doub't any self respecting SF member would like to be seen as being 'ok' with it and 'moving forward' just for the sake of it.


  • #621
    finty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭finty


    The amount of shinners parading as non-political types on boards.ie is ridiculous.

    They must teach this method of infiltrating internet forums in ogra sinn fein or something. :)

    unfortunately the mask slips pretty quickly. laughable really

    the shinners "love" their country......

    anybody speaking against them is a west brit......

    the irish times behind the love ulster parade.......

    bloody hell scraping the bottom of the barrel with this guy


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  • #622
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    finty wrote: »
    The amount of shinners parading as non-political types on boards.ie is ridiculous.

    They must teach this method of infiltrating internet forums in ogra sinn fein or something. :)

    unfortunately the mask slips pretty quickly. laughable really

    the shinners "love" their country......

    anybody speaking against them is a west brit......

    the irish times behind the love ulster parade.......

    bloody hell scraping the bottom of the barrel with this guy

    Also I'm a fine example of a 'coddled' Irishman.


  • #623
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    finty wrote: »
    The amount of shinners parading as non-political types on boards.ie is ridiculous.

    They must teach this method of infiltrating internet forums in ogra sinn fein or something. :)
    Well, I'm not at all political - I've never voted and I don't even know the names of any politicians but >insert Shinner historical narrative and policy positions, verbatim, here<

    But sure what do I know, I'm only an ordinary apolitical person like yourselves.


  • #624
    Ruralyoke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭Ruralyoke


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    He must be the first politician ever to do a U-turn.

    In fairness now, a pretty big U-turn.


  • #625
    wyndhurst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    swimming in a sea wrote: »
    so you get a united Ireland and what have you got, a million British people now living in an Irish republic, now been told their land which they saw as British for 500 years is now Irish.

    So how are you going to solve their problem?

    It is amazing how the terms 'Brits' and 'British' are thrown around so much in relation to NI.
    Even the real British citizens do not see NI as 'British' and that is because NI is part of the Island of Ireland.
    Only ill informed, wannabee republicans, Celtic jersey wearing SF toe-rags keep refferring to the non-nationalist, non-republicans as British. They are the Irish portion of the United Kingdon of Great Britian and Northen Ireland. (Whether they like it or not).


  • #626
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    It is amazing how the terms 'Brits' and 'British' are thrown around so much in relation to NI.
    Even the real British citizens do not see NI as 'British' and that is because NI is part of the Island of Ireland.
    Only ill informed, wannabee republicans, Celtic jersey wearing SF toe-rags keep refferring to the non-nationalist, non-republicans as British. They are the Irish portion of the United Kingdon of Great Britian and Northen Ireland. (Whether they like it or not).
    Indeed. And of course as soon as a Northern Unionist goes to Britain, he's an Irishman, 'Paddy' or whatever. Ironic really.


  • #627
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    It is amazing how the terms 'Brits' and 'British' are thrown around so much in relation to NI.
    Even the real British citizens do not see NI as 'British' and that is because NI is part of the Island of Ireland.
    Only ill informed, wannabee republicans, Celtic jersey wearing SF toe-rags keep refferring to the non-nationalist, non-republicans as British. They are the Irish portion of the United Kingdon of Great Britian and Northen Ireland. (Whether they like it or not).

    Well now hang on there a minute . . . I happened upon a Martin McGuinness speech at the SF Ard feish on yesterdays RTE news, and even he went on to talk about respecting the beliefs and culture of the One Million British people who live in Northern Ireland. If people say they are British, then they are British, and if they claim to be Irish, likewise . . .


  • #628
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well now hang on there a minute . . . I happened upon a Martin McGuinness speech at the SF Ard feish on yesterdays RTE news, and even he went on to talk about respecting the beliefs and culture of the One Million British people who live in Northern Ireland. If people say they are British, then they are British, and if they claim to be Irish, likewise . . .

    He did not, did he ?

    The fcuker, he's after ruining all 42 pages of this thread.


  • #629
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    mattjack wrote: »
    He did not, did he ?

    The fcuker, he's after ruining all 42 pages of this thread.

    Apparently he's softening up the hardliners in SF for his upcoming handshake with the (British) Queen :)


  • #630
    wyndhurst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭wyndhurst


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Well now hang on there a minute . . . I happened upon a Martin McGuinness speech at the SF Ard feish on yesterdays RTE news, and even he went on to talk about respecting the beliefs and culture of the One Million British people who live in Northern Ireland. If people say they are British, then they are British, and if they claim to be Irish, likewise . . .

    This is all part of the SF propoganda machine. They use the term 'British' in Ireland in a derogatory fashion.
    The facts are that anyone born on the Island of Ireland is defacto Irish.
    They may be a citizen of the United Kingdon but they are certainly not British - FACT


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  • #631
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    wyndhurst wrote: »
    They may be a citizen of the United Kingdon but they are certainly not British - FACT

    So that One million people up North are not British at all (even though they claim to be) :confused:


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