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newmark · 20-05-2012 7:56pm

Stealthirl wrote: »

Just woundering how you all are geting on ?
thebestshop have what looks like a newer version and i was thinking of geting it,its only €54 with two 18650 2200mAh protected batteries

I don't have one yet but I did have the LT version1 and for that price I'd recommend that you grab it while its going as this one has higher spec with the ohms resistance reader and higher amp level built in I don't think you will go too far wrong.

Stealthirl · 20-05-2012 8:06pm

well i was going to get a 1000mAh Twist off him and that'll be about €25 then i started thinking for just over twice that i get more range,4x the battery mAh and something far better,I wont order till tomorro as im still mulling it over.

currantly im happy with the LR ego-t and i have an adapter left over from when i had the SB

Andy-Pandy · 20-05-2012 8:37pm

If i was to purchase this should i purchase anything else with it? What about the part you suck on, should i purchase a few straight off the bat, and what should i order if i wanted to.

Thanks,

Im a total novice.

Andrew

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 20-05-2012 9:05pm

http://www.thebestshop.eu/blank-cartomizers/joye-510-empty-cartomiser/prod_153.html

these will work well with that. one oughta last you 2-3 days to a week if you plan to vape at high enough voltages (higher voltages kinda wreck them faster than your standard voltage batteries) so yeah order a few of them as you might get unlucky and some might arrive that dont last very long. they're disposable products and cheap as a result so how long they last is.. kinda iffy. you can say generally they'll last X amount of time.. but there's always the risk of getting a few bad cartos in an order.

but uh.. I dont know if that's a great kit to get for a first kit. after you've been vaping for a while sure.. but you'll have to deal with batteries and taking them out to charge and if you vape at high enough voltages, you'll have to take them out to charge pretty regularly, so it wont be something you can take out and expect to have it last a full day or longer

dont get me wrong, it's a great device. it's just a bit more involved than your standard ecig kit which is just "attach cartomiser, vape" and.. well I suppose you'll pick it up pretty quickly it just might be a little frustrating at first as you're figuring it all out

oh

and one of these
http://www.thebestshop.eu/drip-tips/transparent-drip-tips/prod_146.html

you put this into the cartomiser i linked above. just handier than wrapping your lips around the carto itself.

youll need liquid too obviously, dont think any comes in that kit

Hunter Mahan · 20-05-2012 9:15pm

It's a good kit and you'll move onto a proper device skipping some of the starter kits most of us kicked off with. The advantage is you'll save money, disadvantage is you will be missing out on some of the learning curve.

Sticking with the same website you will need some 510 drip tips:
http://www.thebestshop.eu/drip-tips/delrin-drip-tip-510/901/prod_166.html
There are loads of different types, the key for you is to make sure whichever you get, they are 510 drip tips.

You will also probably need to get some cartomizers, I prefer the boge cartomizers. Make sure that you get standard resistance and not low resistance.
You will find stockists in the list of recommended vendors thread stickied at the top of this forum.

Of course you will need some eliquid, that will depend on your own tastes, often when people first start they want a tobacco flavour, but myself I prefer RY4 flavour. Buy a few different types and you'll find what you like. Then you may be able to trade what you dislike with other members here, down the road. Probably safest to start out with a pg liquid or 70 pg / 30 vg (it will be in the description)

If you like that set up, a few days later you will need to hook yourself up with a tank and a carto punch, just so you can vape all day without having to top up with eliquid. But you can come back to us when you get to that stage.

It's a bit hit and miss to start off with and you will spend some money finding your ideal set up, but it levels off and you will never spend as much as you would on cigarettes.

The lavatube is a good piece of kit with several reviews and tutorials on youtube. Also plenty here have experience with it so there will be no shortage of advice.

Best of luck.

Andy-Pandy · 20-05-2012 9:18pm

Thanks for that advice, i'll start of with something simpler then and if i like it ill upgrade.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 20-05-2012 9:22pm

I reccomend...
http://www.thebestshop.eu/electronic-cigarette-starter-kits/ego-t-dcc-promotional-starter-kit/prod_207.html

http://e-smokeireland.eu/epages/950002218.sf/en_IE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950002218/Products/DCCXLKIT

same kit, bit cheaper on the second site and you'll need a drip tip either way

or

http://www.ezsmoke.ie/riva-boge-cartomizer-ecigarette-starter-p-136.html
with the LR 2.0-2.4ohm cartomiser option

both options are very similar. the dual coil is slightly warmer with a ... "rougher" flavour I guess as the added heat affects the flavour. the boges are a touch cooler and as such the flavour isn't as affected.

your can go onto youtube and look for reviews of
"dual coil cartomiser"
or "boge cartomiser"

plus whatever kit you end up getting, you can order some samples of t he other cartomisers on their own and try them out.. see which you prefer.

stevenmu · 20-05-2012 9:24pm

This is a great kit to get to start with: http://www.thebestshop.eu/electronic-cigarette-starter-kits/ego-t-dcc-promotional-starter-kit/prod_207.html

With that you'll only need to get juice/liquid and a drip tip or two, and then you'll be good to go. Just charge the battery, fill a cartomiser with liquid, screw it onto the battery, put in the drip tip and you're ready to go.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 20-05-2012 9:25pm

oh
and dont order a large bottle of juice straight off

order a few 10ml bottles of differet juices, so if you end up not liking one at least you didnt spend much money on it

Eoin · 21-05-2012 3:04pm

I haven't used my LT much yet, but did order some Boge 3.0 LR carts for it. I've only tried one so far, and it's an incredibly tight draw with not much taste. Pretty sure I tried different voltages to no avail. Does it just sound like a dud?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 21-05-2012 3:09pm

are they 3 ohm or LR (2ohm) ?

either way it does sound ...duddy
boges are better than dual coils for flavour, not by a huge amount but it's noticeable enough imo
the draw on them is kinda tight compared to other cartos so that sounds.. kinda normal, unless it was ridiculously tight. you sure you filled it enough?

Eoin · 21-05-2012 3:12pm

Twas these ones:
http://www.ezsmoke.ie/boge-cartomizers-pack-p-129.html

Definitely filled it enough - and left it to soak for 30 mins. Maybe I overfilled it and clogged it up.

Not a big deal either way, I think I'll find it hard to stop using a tank system now.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 21-05-2012 3:19pm

yeah, they're the 3ohms

probably a dud then I guess.. what voltage were you firing them at?

I find the standard res work best at a voltage of 4.5 and above, I tend to vape them at 5 volts

nesf · 21-05-2012 5:11pm

I'm considering the plunge, my ProVari is a bit the worse for wear and I fancy a change anyway.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 21-05-2012 5:16pm

tbh the newer lavatubes are almost as good as the provari
main differences are the build quality, the price (!) and the lavatube will drop voltage a bit when the battery has lost some charge. I think after 3.6V left on the battery you will notice a bit of performance drop, where the provari will keep everything steady at whatever V until it dies. this does mean the LT lasts longer between charges though

if you aren't married to the tube mod shape, consider a throathit dual 18650 vv mod
around 95 sterling, lasts 2-3 days on a single charge.. 5 amp limit, plugs in to charge like a mobile phone and can be used while its charging

mrplop · 21-05-2012 5:18pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

tbh the newer lavatubes are almost as good as the provari
main differences are the build quality, the price (!) and the lavatube will drop voltage a bit when the battery has lost some charge. I think after 3.6V left on the battery you will notice a bit of performance drop, where the provari will keep everything steady at whatever V until it dies. this does mean the LT lasts longer between charges though

Don't think the V3's drop voltage near the end - it's a Pulse width modulation thang.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 21-05-2012 5:19pm

mrplop wrote: »

Don't think the V3's drop voltage near the end - it's a Pulse width modulation thang.

oh, really?
hrm interesting

if anyone wants to send me one of theirs for a few days to test this with a multimeter I'd be happy to

Stealthirl · 22-05-2012 2:57am

Caved and ordered mine

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 22-05-2012 8:03am

those "xxxxx saved" quit banners oughta have options to subtract money spent on vaping gear

22-05-2012 9:19am

can someone please recommend a pair of good long-lasting 18650 batts and a decent charger please?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 22-05-2012 9:25am

the aw imrs are good batteries

think you can get 2000mah versions on ecigwizard or one of the english sites.. might be a tiny bit too long for the LT but you can get an o ring to block off the bit of the threads that dont complete properly

charger.. trustfire tr001 does the job. TBS has them

22-05-2012 12:07pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the aw imrs are good batteries

think you can get 2000mah versions on ecigwizard or one of the english sites.. might be a tiny bit too long for the LT but you can get an o ring to block off the bit of the threads that dont complete properly

charger.. trustfire tr001 does the job. TBS has them

any idea on these batts that TBS has?

http://www.thebestshop.eu/vv-mods/lavatube-vx-spare-battery/prod_252.html

eeloe · 22-05-2012 12:14pm

I've got two of them batteries, and they are grand!

get a good while out of them in the Lavatube!

stevenmu · 22-05-2012 1:05pm

New Lavatube arrived today from TBS, super quick delivery as always. Quite impressed so far. Build quality is a step up on the original ones, not a huge leap, but it's pretty good considering. The controls are slightly different than the original, it seems to be 5-press on and off, rather than a long press, which now gives resistance. So I had a little panic when I was trying to check battery voltage (7-press on the original) and it kept turning itself on and off

I need to experiment with this a little more.

Andy-Pandy · 22-05-2012 1:15pm

stevenmu wrote: »

This is a great kit to get to start with: http://www.thebestshop.eu/electronic-cigarette-starter-kits/ego-t-dcc-promotional-starter-kit/prod_207.html

With that you'll only need to get juice/liquid and a drip tip or two, and then you'll be good to go. Just charge the battery, fill a cartomiser with liquid, screw it onto the battery, put in the drip tip and you're ready to go.

I went with that kit, hopefully this works out and you'll be seeing more of me in this forum. Appreciate the help and advice.

stevenmu · 22-05-2012 4:38pm

Best of luck with it. It can seem a bit overwhelming when you get it first, but you get used to it quickly enough.

alec76 · 22-05-2012 4:49pm

eeloe wrote: »

I've got two of them batteries, and they are grand!

get a good while out of them in the Lavatube!

Are they protected? Any sign of PCB?

stevenmu · 22-05-2012 5:23pm

There is a kind of ridged area at the top, could be the PCB?

alec76 · 22-05-2012 6:12pm

No ,PCB always at the bottom , it is ~ 2mm board , there is a metal string across the battery aswell ( it is under the jacket of course, still u can feel it )

alec76 · 22-05-2012 6:33pm

http://hzdesay.gmc.globalmarket.com/products/details/18650-ec-series-258525.html

mrplop · 23-05-2012 8:21am

3.5 amp discharge current wouldn't be enough would it?

stevenmu · 23-05-2012 10:59am

Can't feel anything at the bottom, and from that link it doesn't look like they are protected. Shame really.

mrplop · 23-05-2012 11:51pm

These sort of mods don't automatically become ticking time bombs without protected batteries - AW's are probably safer because of their high discharge rate anyway.

stevenmu · 24-05-2012 11:17am

Yeah, good point. I have some AW IMRs already and some protected panasonic li-ions on the way, but these will make fine backups for travelling etc.

nesf · 24-05-2012 12:42pm

Well mine arrived anyway. Tis ok. What volatages do people like DCCs at nowadays anyway?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 24-05-2012 12:47pm

it depends on whether or not you're a sick freak

if you're not, 3.7 or thereabouts is decent enough.

I must dig out some of those 2.5ohm dual coils I have squirrelled away and try them at higher voltages as the 1.5ohms were just sickening above 4v for me

nesf · 24-05-2012 1:08pm

I'm finding 3.9 fine at 1.5 Ohm.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 24-05-2012 1:10pm

nesf wrote: »

I'm finding 3.9 fine at 1.5 Ohm.

i suppose I shouldn't be surprised at this level of perversion from a politics mod

FunkZ · 24-05-2012 3:30pm

Can anybody recommend a good atomizer/whatchacallem/tank for the LT?

I bought a DCT 6ML and it has an incredibly terrible burnt taste/smell, and the two atomizers (510 I think) that came with it smell burnt too.

My oldschool eGo battery with a LR A type atomizer is excellent as usual, such a good vape :pac:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 24-05-2012 3:32pm

you're probably running the DCT's at too high a voltage.. try it in between 3.4-3.8v

other than that, the mini-sub tank from momandpopvapourshop.com is good with boge cartomisers. can get the boges from irish sites. mini-sub tank is cheap enough and delivery is about as week from the states

--edit

http://www.thevapourstore.ie/cartomisers/510-dual-coil-cartomiser-xl-2ohm/prod_309.html

if you get these in "silver".. without the black wrapping around it, and get a carto punch to punch a hole in the cartomiser you should be able to use these in your DCT

FunkZ · 24-05-2012 3:37pm

Much appreciated Digby! I'll order 'em soon and give 'em a whack :P

nesf · 24-05-2012 3:49pm

I use these with my DCT: http://www.thebestshop.eu/blank-cartomizers/dct-dual-coil-cartomizer-with-hole/prod_238.html

Works a treat.

Stefan_Cork · 24-05-2012 5:10pm

ideal a 3ohm if you go high volts, standard dct smok cartos taste burnt for me too above 3.7.
Get boge xxl carts one as it will fit your tank no bother.
Other than that you may look at more expensive repairable atomizers.

edit: you folks are quick...

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