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stanflt · 13-05-2012 08:14PM

dar31 wrote: »

finally got ground ploughed for maize, hope we get 2 dry days this week to get it in

plastic or in the open?

Seaba · 13-05-2012 09:58PM

johnpawl wrote: »

so, where do ye draw the line at too muscely to breed?

Sorry meant to reply earlier.
We look at the hips/pins either side of the tail head. We don't go out with the measuring tape or anything but you sorta know by looking as to whether there is much room there. We just found that with some of our BB heifers, they are narrow in that area. Also there is no 'give' in that area when they calf - its nearly all muscle which does not move easily. A 'softer' cow seems to open up more when calving. Again all cows are different and I am sure many farmers have BB cows that would calf anything.
I suppose for some it depends on what type of calf you want - some farmers down our way don't mind throwing the jack on everything that calves/have a few C-sections, if they get a great calf.

just do it · 13-05-2012 10:50PM

Handling cattle this morning. I've fenced off a roadway leading to paddocks from the shed and it has made life so much easier. They get nuts each time they come in and it is making handling them such a dream! This roadway is only in place a few weeks, the place is starting to come together

This cow and another one like her are breeding the best calves in the place. Note she's not too muscular and she's still relatively young (5 or 6yo). She's got scope and produces plenty milk. Place a terminal sire on her and she'll spit out the calf, produce a great weanling, and go back in calf (fingers crossed anyway!). I'm in the camp that don't believe replacements should be too muscular.

And here they are going out the gap. They're getting quieter and easier to handle all the time. Unfortunately I'm not finished the roadways yet but this one they're on leads to 5 paddocks and it has improved life no end! I hope by the end of May to have the other roadway fenced and finally, after 4 years, be finished fencing, other than maintenance of course!

Bizzum · 13-05-2012 11:17PM

just do it wrote: »

I'm in the camp that don't believe replacements should be too muscular.

It's a hard one to call, for me anyway. A real good U grade heifer that goes to the bull can be a super cow if kept at the right condition for calving. Ideally if they carry the muscle gene and pass it on rather than exhibit it on their ar$e!
Most of the best cows at home would be cows that have double muscle breed back in them.

johnpawl · 14-05-2012 10:27AM

I'm wondering will I run into problems with this lady. 13 months old now

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johnpawl · 14-05-2012 10:29AM

A chx replacement heifer, year old. She will be getting an easy calving part.

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leg wax · 14-05-2012 12:18PM

johnpawl wrote: »

I'm wondering will I run into problems with this lady. 13 months old now

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send her on to legs:rolleyes:

pakalasa · 14-05-2012 12:28PM

Seaba wrote: »

...We look at the hips/pins either side of the tail head. We don't go out with the measuring tape or anything but you sorta know by looking as to whether there is much room there. ....

For me, this is the starting point when choosing a heifer. Even if she is wide at the hips, I'd still like her to have the width at the tail pins. A good square boxy shape. The tail head should slope down too, not stand proud. Any cows or heifers I had problems calving all seem to have proud tail-heads.

just do it wrote: »

... They get nuts each time they come in and it is making handling them such a dream!...

I'm starting AI at the moment. I give the cows a few dairy nuts every day in the corner of the field near the pen. All, except a few crafy bitches, come running to fight over them. Like all good animal trainers, you have to use food as a reward..;)

Username John · 14-05-2012 01:19PM

Right, here goes...

A bit of the new farm roadway created last year - still waiting for a proper fence to be put up either side of it...

Enjoying the sunshine.

Few hogs I kept from last year.

johnpawl · 14-05-2012 04:57PM

leg wax wrote: »

send her on to legs:rolleyes:

fek it, I'll chance it myself:p

johnpawl · 14-05-2012 05:15PM

new suckler unit.

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Richk2012 · 14-05-2012 05:20PM

johnpawl wrote: »

new suckler unit.

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That looks the job there. Cant beat the bit of comfort in the winter with a good set up like that .

Dupont · 14-05-2012 05:22PM

johnpawl wrote: »

new suckler unit.

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is your feedind barrier going between girder at slats. what lenth is your overhang??

johnpawl · 14-05-2012 05:26PM

Richk2012 wrote: »

That looks the job there. Cant beat the bit of comfort in the winter with a good set up like that .

Hope you're ight. spent along time mulling it over. Eventually finished on this floor plan

johnpawl · 14-05-2012 05:28PM

Dupont wrote: »

is your feedind barrier going between girder at slats. what lenth is your overhang??

tis ya, last bay is 18ft9 to allow for cubicles as shown on floor plan.
overhang is 8ft

pakalasa · 14-05-2012 05:41PM

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

Dupont · 14-05-2012 05:45PM

johnpawl wrote: »

tis ya, last bay is 18ft9 to allow for cubicles as shown on floor plan.
overhang is 8ft

ah i see now nice job. your well on the way

vanderbadger · 14-05-2012 06:56PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

did you make the anti backing bar pak?

limo_100 · 14-05-2012 07:14PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

what stops here from pushing it back pak?

bogman_bass · 14-05-2012 07:26PM

Ah lads! Can we stop quoting posts with big pics in them please? especially when it was only the last post. its slowwing the whole job up

pakalasa · 14-05-2012 07:52PM

vanderbadger wrote: »

did you make the anti backing bar pak?

limo_100 wrote: »

what stops here from pushing it back pak?

Ya, welded it up from scrap. The gap on it is slightly bigger than the pipe so it locks when pushed back sideways. There's a 10mm bolt across underneath too.

just do it · 14-05-2012 07:59PM

johnpawl wrote: »

Hope you're ight. spent along time mulling it over. Eventually finished on this floor plan

DELUXE

just do it · 14-05-2012 08:01PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

Can post both!!! Will get going with the camera again

(Edited to remove pic for bogman. Smartphone automatically includes them :;

Bizzum · 14-05-2012 08:05PM

johnpawl wrote: »

I'm wondering will I run into problems with this lady. 13 months old now

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Who knows? You might. We have bulled similar heifers and usually manage to get the calves out!
Indeed many PB Lim heifers will be of a similar type to herself above.
If she is out of a good cow, she is the type of heifer I'd bull.

Bizzum · 14-05-2012 08:08PM

pakalasa wrote: »

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

Good Idea. I can post cows in both categories!

dar31 · 14-05-2012 09:02PM

stanflt wrote: »

plastic or in the open?

putting it under plastic, sowing tomorrow hopefully

Muckit · 14-05-2012 09:46PM

Muckit · 15-05-2012 11:57AM

Username John wrote: »

Right, here goes...

A bit of the new farm roadway created last year - still waiting for a proper fence to be put up either side of it...

Enjoying the sunshine.

Few hogs I kept from last year.

Excellent photos John! Lovely rolling countryside. I know f**k all about sheep, but those lambs seem to me to be in great order and shaping up nicely for this time of year.

That optimizer software thing really did a great job in making the sheep pop out of the photo, must have a dabble with it ....:rolleyes:

JohnBoy · 15-05-2012 12:23PM

Username John wrote: »

Right, here goes...

A bit of the new farm roadway created last year - still waiting for a proper fence to be put up either side of it...

Enjoying the sunshine.

Few hogs I kept from last year.

nice pics john, know similarly little about sheep (except how tasty they are) but they look well, as does the place.

pakalasa wrote: »

Pics of easy calving cows

Following on from earlier post. Maybe people could post pics of easy calving cows they have. It might help people when choosing a breeding heifer. I'll start with this one first. I reckon she would calf anything.
How about pics of cows that have trouble calving too?

is it the camera or does she actually have a rectangular ass?

johnpawl wrote: »

Hope you're ight. spent along time mulling it over. Eventually finished on this floor plan

better to spend longer thinking about it than to be cursing it afterwards.

when do you hope to be finished?

redzerologhlen · 15-05-2012 05:50PM

JohnBoy wrote: »

is it the camera or does she actually have a rectangular ass?

She must be one of those dublin bus cows Justin does be on about!!

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