Travellers street racing with horses, Gardai involved

goose2005 · 09-05-2012 10:51AM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Apart from anything else, it's cruelty to horses, they are not designed to travel at high speeds in tar roads with traffic all around.

but they are designed to race each other at top speed for several miles with a man sitting on top of them hitting them with a stick?

GLaDOS · 09-05-2012 10:58AM

Arrest Made

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2012/0509/ireland/gardai-man-arrested-following-youtube-harness-race-550767.html

Show Time · 09-05-2012 12:01PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Arrest Made

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2012/0509/ireland/gardai-man-arrested-following-youtube-harness-race-550767.html

You can bet good money PAVEE Point will be out defending his right to express his culture.

wendell borton · 09-05-2012 12:43PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Where did the cops go?

Protecting commercial interests over at the corrib gas pipeline.

smash · 09-05-2012 12:49PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Arrest Made

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/2012/0509/ireland/gardai-man-arrested-following-youtube-harness-race-550767.html

"He was later released"

He wont be found again.

Dave147 · 09-05-2012 12:50PM

I recognise two of those travellers.. They were both in my pub before, I refused them drink and one of them grabbed the scoop for ice and threw it at me, absolute scum of the earth. I see them now quite regularly because they play snooker in a club I frequent.

Obviously going to speak to the owner of the club, but is there any point speaking to the Guards?

Jester252 · 09-05-2012 12:54PM

smash wrote: »

"He was later released"

He wont be found again.

Sure the all have the same name that how they can own property and not pay taxes and draw all the social welfare they what
I'm surprised that they were able to use the computer let alone the internet

paddyandy · 09-05-2012 01:53PM

We are never serious enough about law and order and many problems follow from this very fact throughout irish society .

Sterling Archer · 09-05-2012 02:12PM

yore wrote: »

How many do you think it would have taken?
Double the amount of cops in the country and they still would have done nothing in that situation. God forbid though that you do over 1 kilometer over 50 kph on some some clear straight, ridiculously speed-limited, deserted road at 3am in the morning. Especially if it's near the end of the month and they need to get their quotas filled.

And no, I've never been done for speeding or any traffic, or any other offence. However I have been pulled over and physically pulled out of a car by gardai.......because the girl in the passenger seat beside me rolled her eyes when they pulled up along side us and made obscene gestures at her. They spent a good 10-15 minutes (which is a long time to be standing out in the cold on a winters night) interrogating me with nonsensical questions and threatening to being me to a garda station about 25 miles away for a breath test just to be cunts, having spent 5 minutes going around the car trying to find something wrong. They thought they'd hit the jackpot because the car had no NCT cert....despite the fact that it wasn't old enough to have one. Of course, me pointing this out to them was not allowed. I was raging i didn't take their ID numbers, but at the same time I know I'd have been wasting my time because they'd have made some sh1te up saying I was dangerous driving or something.

What would you have done? pull over one of the horse, and instantly be surrounded by angry travelers, or try to alert people, i mean there not exactly going to get away from you, it's a horse,
now if everything else wasn't so backward around here, reinforcements would have arrived by the end of the race and started arresting people, and they would be charged etc, but such is the nature of this country that this was never going to happen.

Flesh Gorden · 09-05-2012 02:20PM

It might not look it from the video, but it's normally one of the busiest roads in Cork as it's the main road to Limerick as well as Mallow with a 100kph limit
you wouldn't even do that in a video game

I can't believe they don't take the horses off them or the NI reg cars and jeeps

I'd a look through the channel of the video maker 'mrfastpony' and found this gem in his favourited videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeZoFaip3k

5 car wide convoy with 3 ahead including the car making the video and a jeep to his left

damienirel · 09-05-2012 02:25PM

Ireland is in major decline. Judges are handing out joke sentences for the serious crimes that are being commited.
The prisons are full and the government doesn't have any plans to build any new ones.
The Garda see their jobs - just as that...jobs - you clock in - you clock out.
There is no serving the public. - In fairness would you be any different??

One arrest is made 4 days later - after what is seen in that video.
It's actually very disturbing.

3 pipe bombs found in limerick kildare and dublin in the last 24hrs.

Ireland will soon be on it's way to the bottom if crimes like these go unpunished.

Be warned the SCUM are in control NOW!!

BobMc · 09-05-2012 02:39PM

shocking, gardai should have remained in front of both horses while calling for backup, then the whole lot of them should have been arrested, lock em up, check all details, + cars, horses, sulkies, all confiscated, till they turn up in court, anyone else wouldnt get away with driving like this on any road I'm disgusted

MagicSean · 09-05-2012 02:41PM

BobMc wrote: »

shocking, gardai should have remained in front of both horses while calling for backup, then the whole lot of them should have been arrested, lock em up, check all details, + cars, horses, sulkies, all confiscated, till they turn up in court, anyone else wouldnt get away with driving like this on any road I'm disgusted

How many Gardaí do you think there are in Cork?

BobMc · 09-05-2012 02:55PM

at least two in the car if not three, at least wait for the horses and drivers to stop and arrest them -

MagicSean · 09-05-2012 02:57PM

BobMc wrote: »

at least two in the car if not three, at least wait for the horses and drivers to stop and arrest them -

Did you not see the horde of travellers around them? 4 Gardaí would have no chance.

Rocket19 · 09-05-2012 03:00PM

Jesus fcking christ...I'm actually so angry watching this. People like this should not be allowed own horses (or any animal). No doubt the animal welfare people are too afraid to touch them, which I guess is understandable.

This is APART from the fact that these idiots could have caused a major accident, killing themselves (oh no...:rolleyes:) or others. Horses are unpredictable animals, you don't fcking weave them through traffic at high speed.
I feel sorry for the gardaí having to deal with that sh1t tbh. The worst part is they will claim this is OK because it's their "culture".

BobMc · 09-05-2012 03:04PM

MagicSean wrote: »

Did you not see the horde of travellers around them? 4 Gardaí would have no chance.

so the travellers saw safety in numbers, would they have felt different with the ERU in front if they are that afraid of them time to change profession

damienirel · 09-05-2012 03:18PM

Rocket19 wrote: »

Jesus fcking christ...I'm actually so angry watching this. People like this should not be allowed own horses (or any animal). No doubt the animal welfare people are too afraid to touch them, which I guess is understandable.

This is APART from the fact that these idiots could have caused a major accident, killing themselves (oh no...:rolleyes:) or others. Horses are unpredictable animals, you don't fcking weave them through traffic at high speed.
I feel sorry for the gardaí having to deal with that sh1t tbh. The worst part is they will claim this is OK because it's their "culture".

It's also in their culture to Marry and have children with their cousins.

Sappa · 09-05-2012 03:24PM

There always at this out the country,I get caught behind them in a huge tailback sometimes.
Its incredibly dangerous,a few weeks back there was a young traveler maybe 10 yrs old riding the pieball without a saddle steaming down the road,his family were in a van egging him on and the horse veered on to the otherside marginally he almost lost control which would have plowed him into an on coming car.
The Gardai could not care less,they are a law on to themselves the travellers and really should not be allowed keep any animals the way they treat them.

johngalway · 09-05-2012 03:31PM

hondasam wrote: »

This is not the US.
Making a dangerous situation worse is not the answer, they were going to stop eventually.
There is no way the guards could stop them on that road with the amount of traffic on it without causing an accident, probably to an innocent motorist.

They would just shoot the horses.

Doubtful, the way these things are organised is a bunch of *insert politically incorrect non uptight common reference here* driving cars, vans, jeeps run four or five abreast behind the ponies and block 90% of the road, save for a SMALL gap for oncoming traffic - sometimes.

Run them into their own crowd, big deal.

"Those people" need to learn how to conduct themselves in the real world.

Fighting Irish · 09-05-2012 03:33PM

I think this is great! And i love that it pisses people off!

Fighting Irish · 09-05-2012 03:35PM

johngalway wrote: »

"Those people" need to learn how to conduct themselves in the real world.

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They need to sit in and watch big brother and big brothers little brother, and then go on facebook give their opinion

johngalway · 09-05-2012 03:36PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

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They need to sit in and watch big brother and big brothers little brother, and then go on facebook give their opinion

They can do that to their little hearts content as long as they stay the fcuk out of everyones way

Show Time · 09-05-2012 03:40PM

MagicSean wrote: »

Did you not see the horde of travellers around them? 4 Gardaí would have no chance.

That is why the Gardai need guns.

Blast one of them off the road and the rest of them would think twice before using a tax payers road as their own Silverstone.

Sky King · 09-05-2012 03:41PM

Jesus fcking christ...I'm actually so angry watching this. People like this should not be allowed own horses (or any animal). No doubt the animal welfare people are too afraid to touch them, which I guess is understandable.

Yea there's a halting site near enough to where I live. I was coming out the other evening in the car and the kids had a little terrier with a rope around his neck swinging him off the ground by the rope to choke him... kinda sickening... parents of the kid just watching him indifferently. Fairly regular occurance watching them flog their horses and dogs.

Never say anything for fear of gettin bet by a sh!te in the bucket junkies junkies bastard though.

hondasam · 09-05-2012 03:48PM

Show Time wrote: »

That is why the Gardai need guns.

Blast one of them off the road and the rest of them would think twice before using a tax payers road as their own Silverstone.

Seriously you want to live in a country where that could happen?
It's wrong what they are doing but shooting them is a bit OTT.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 09-05-2012 03:49PM

Kevin Irving wrote: »

With that attitude, chasing them at all could be considered provocative, and could impact their safety. The fact is that they're on the wrong side of a road, putting others lives at risk. The cops in the US don't sit there and let themselves be made fools of. They end the dangerous situation, in the fastest way possible to reduce risk to the rest of the public.

Harsh, I agree, but they clearly don't understand anything else.

This isnt the US, If the Guards were to employ similar tactics and one of the travellers got hurt, they'd make a complaint, sue the guards, get a ball of money and make a complete mockery of the whole system...as they already do to a certain extent.

ectoraige · 09-05-2012 03:50PM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Apart from anything else, it's cruelty to horses, they have not evolved to travel at high speeds in tar roads with traffic all around.

fyp.

b.harte · 09-05-2012 03:57PM

I had the misfortune of having to spend a morning a few weeks ago in Mallow Courthouse (for a small claims hearing) and the number of faces (and crap haircuts) that I recognise from that video is unreal.
At the end where the large group is gathering they are all present.
From what I saw in the courthouse these people don't give a fcuk, they displayed nothing short of disregard for rules on any sort and use their "situation / plight" to get away with stuff.
Honestly I'm so annoyed with this crap, that is a major road that has (lately) seen serious and often fatal collisions, those people should be banned from owning animals, banned from holding a licence to drive and fined to within an inch of their pathetic existence.
And have every "entitlement" removed.

Part of their culture my hole, the closest these gimps get to culture is a fcukin yeast infection.

The worst part? What chance have the kids in the video got if this is what they see on an regular basis, and I too have met them on country roads, they don't tend to share.
I do know locally that the guards have been giving them a bit of attention, which should dampen them / move them on, but from the faces I saw in the video a lot of them are related and settled in the Mallow area. The guy in the red/white shirt has a newish (english reg) ford galaxy or s-max, see him around mallow a lot.

Were the guard right?
Hopefully prosecutions will follow.

slavetothegrind · 09-05-2012 03:58PM

dont think it would have been unreasonable to drive the horse into the verge with the car

also dont think the guard would have survived that, job or lynching wise.

We really need to legislate for this, or do we need to?

was that video not evidence of a criminal gang clearly cooperating in criminal activity driven by gambling?

bit of creative persecution prosecution required.

As for the liberal opinions expressed here, i fart in your general direction.

Travellers street racing with horses, Gardai involved

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