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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • #8282
    Cpt_Blackbeard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Cpt_Blackbeard


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    That's what you said about Houdini though!

    Yes but it was decided that "Houdini" was an offensive nickname and using of such would result in infractions from what I remember. A similar decision was reached for the use of "Blind Dave", but only when I uttered it. There was no apparent problem with the use of Buckle and Kidinme.


  • #8283
    rrpc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Do you not think it's a bad situation for Ireland to have only one coach in the possible running for the Munster job and even then he was a bit of an outsider to get it?
    Not really. When you look at the player pool we have, the number of top class teams, by definition our coaching pool will be very shallow and the level of experience they can gain; very limited.

    Which is why I suggest that any ambitious young coach should go abroad to gain experience because there's little chance of gaining it here.


  • #8284
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »
    Yes but it was decided that "Houdini" was an offensive nickname and using of such would result in infractions from what I remember. A similar decision was reached for the use of "Blind Dave", but only when I uttered it. There was no apparent problem with the use of Buckle and Kidinme.

    People simply refuse to believe Heaslip is magic, right?


  • #8285
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Do you not think it's a bad situation for Ireland to have only one coach in the possible running for the Munster job and even then he was a bit of an outsider to get it?

    I wouldn't read too much into it. Another 3 years and it could be all Irish head coaches at the provinces.


  • #8286
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    I wouldn't read too much into it. Another 3 years and it could be all Irish head coaches at the provinces.
    There's a good up-and-coming guy arriving at the Ulster academy next year - who knows, in a few years time he might get a shot at the senior squad?


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  • #8287
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    There's a good up-and-coming guy arriving at the Ulster academy next year - who knows, in a few years time he might get a shot at the senior squad?

    How droll.

    My point was that there is no great trend towards foreign coaches, it's something that's always been present in the pro era. All provinces have had Irish and foreign coaches at some point or other.

    And tbh, nationality shouldn't come into it when looking for the best candidate.


  • #8288
    PhatPiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    How droll.

    My point was that there is no great trend towards foreign coaches, it's something that's always been present in the pro era. All provinces have had Irish and foreign coaches at some point or other.

    And tbh, nationality shouldn't come into it when looking for the best candidate.

    Lighten up, you'll live longer !


  • #8289
    CiaranMT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    PhatPiggins wrote: »
    Lighten up, you'll live longer !

    I'm only posting here because I've exams to be avoiding :D


  • #8290
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing




    Last years ITM final highlights.


  • #8291
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Shane Horgan suggesting Ronan O'Gara for backs coach.


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  • #8292
    Chavways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Shane Horgan suggesting Ronan O'Gara for backs coach.

    I thought we were trying to encourage running rugby.


  • #8293
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Chavways wrote: »
    I thought we were trying to encourage running rugby.

    Oddly enough, O'Gara used to be such a good passer he was quite good at bringing players in, anyhow, strange Horgan, who would know O'Gara well, would pick him out as a future coach.


  • #8294
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »


    Last years ITM final highlights.

    A try-free thriller.


  • #8295
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Oddly enough, O'Gara used to be such a good passer he was quite good at bringing players in, anyhow, strange Horgan, who would know O'Gara well, would pick him out as a future coach.

    Yeah - I'm going to go way into the left field here and suggest that Horgan knows ROG better than many of us, and also that he probably knows the requirements of professional rugby better than many of the posters here too. From that perspective, it's an interesting comment.


  • #8296
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    A try-free thriller.

    Looked like classic Munster rugby to me...


  • #8297
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Yeah - I'm going to go way into the left field here and suggest that Horgan knows ROG better than many of us, and also that he probably knows the requirements of professional rugby better than many of the posters here too. From that perspective, it's an interesting comment.

    Yeah, I have to say he's never struck me as a future coach but you never know, Horgan wouldn't bother saying it if he didn't think there was merit to it.


  • #8298
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Shane Horgan suggesting Ronan O'Gara for backs coach.

    Nah, O'Gara can only be backs coach at international standard. ;)


  • #8299
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Nah, O'Gara can only be backs coach at international standard. ;)

    Having seen the Irish backs this season, I am confident O'Gara could do a better job than whoever is coaching them.


  • #8300
    Teferi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Yeah the Irish backline has been largely ineffective this year. Where did Horgan say ROG would be a good coach btw? I'd like to read/watch/listen to that piece.


  • #8301
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Teferi wrote: »
    Yeah the Irish backline has been largely ineffective this year. Where did Horgan say ROG would be a good coach btw? I'd like to read/watch/listen to that piece.

    On newstalk tonight, at about quarter past 8.


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  • #8302
    jm08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Teferi wrote: »
    Yeah the Irish backline has been largely ineffective this year. Where did Horgan say ROG would be a good coach btw? I'd like to read/watch/listen to that piece.

    Horgan rates O'Gara. During the 6Ns (RTE sideline pundit after one of the matches) he was advocating that Sexton be moved to 12 and O'Gara to start at 10.


  • #8303
    jm08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Teferi wrote: »
    Yeah the Irish backline has been largely ineffective this year. Where did Horgan say ROG would be a good coach btw? I'd like to read/watch/listen to that piece.

    Ireland scored most tries in 6Nations this year with 13. Wales were second with 10. France 8, England scored 6, Italy & Scotland 4 each.


  • #8304
    Teferi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    jm08 wrote: »
    Ireland scored most tries in 6Nations this year with 13. Wales were second with 10. France 8, England scored 6, Italy & Scotland 4 each.

    I didn't say that our backline didn't take it's chances well because they did, especially Bowe. I'm pretty sure they did better with a bit of loose ball rather than creating very much for themselves though.


  • #8305
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    jm08 wrote: »
    Horgan rates O'Gara. During the 6Ns (RTE sideline pundit after one of the matches) he was advocating that Sexton be moved to 12 and O'Gara to start at 10.

    Mad he'd say that when he has to go and see d'Arcy every other day (or did). Not that he's wrong, it's worth looking at even if O'Gara should really retire.


  • #8306
    Tox56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    jm08 wrote: »
    Horgan rates O'Gara. During the 6Ns (RTE sideline pundit after one of the matches) he was advocating that Sexton be moved to 12 and O'Gara to start at 10.

    Mad he'd say that when he has to go and see d'Arcy every other day (or did). Not that he's wrong, it's worth looking at even if O'Gara should really retire.

    It really isn't worth it, Sexton is the long-term 10, we need a long-term 12 and we even had one possibility on the 6N bench who was repeatedly snubbed.


  • #8307
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Tox56 wrote: »
    It really isn't worth it, Sexton is the long-term 10, we need a long-term 12 and we even had one possibility on the 6N bench who was repeatedly snubbed.

    Ok, now I accept this is left field but how about a Sexton/Madigan or a Madigan/Sexton partnership at 10 and 12 for Leinster and Ireland?

    I think Paddy Jackson will go ahead of Madigan soon due to gametime and if and when it happens, O'Gara will call it a day.


  • #8308
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Ok, now I accept this is left field but how about a Sexton/Madigan or a Madigan/Sexton partnership at 10 and 12 for Leinster and Ireland?

    I think Paddy Jackson will go ahead of Madigan soon due to gametime and if and when it happens, O'Gara will call it a day.

    A lot of Leinster fans have suggested that. I would be interested in seeing it. I think Madigan offers more in the 21/22 jersey though.


  • #8309
    _ricochet_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭_ricochet_


    I know the lads joked about it on Off the Ball tonight but Shane Horgan may not be the worst nominee as a backs coach for Munster.


  • #8310
    Amazotheamazing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    A lot of Leinster fans have suggested that. I would be interested in seeing it. I think Madigan offers more in the 21/22 jersey though.

    Has it ever happened in a game so far?

    It'll be interesting to see if Hanrahan can follow Jackson's lead and force his way into the team.


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  • #8311
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Amazotheamazing wrote: »
    Has it ever happened in a game so far?
    Madigan did play 13 in the HEC QF for a little over 10 minutes


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